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thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:27:03 AM)


ORIGINAL: DomKen

Do you have a fucking clue what you are talking about?
Do you know physics at all?

It would appear that you don't.

When you fire a weapon that doesn't have some sort of gas operated reload you feel the entire recoil directly back into your shoulder.

Same with an auto loader. Remember the bolt is locked into battery so all of the recoil is directed at the face of the bolt and does not affect the autoloading mechanism until the bullet is almost out of the barrel and long after full recoil has been experienced.


When you fire a gas operated weapon you feel almost the same recoil, the difference is miniscule, but it is in your shoulder and every other point where you are in contact with the gun and it makes the gun after go off target (the recoil operation is what makes semis rise after each shot).

Roflmfao


Please at least learn something about what you are talking about.

Take your own advice





Sanity -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:30:11 AM)

2nd grade humor especially for MM:

Q: What do you call a person that doesn't fart in public? A: a PRIVATE TUTOR.

Q: What's the definition of bravery? A: a man with diarrhea chancing a fart!

Q: Why don't little girls fart? A: Because they don't have assholes until they're married.

Q: What is the Definition of bravery? A: Someone who has diarrhea and chances a fart.

Q: What is the sharpest thing in the world? A: A Fart. It goes through your pants and doesn't even leave a hole.

Q: What do you get if you eat refried beans and onions? A: Tear Gas. Q: What did the maxi-pad say to the fart? A: You are the wind beneath my wings.

Q: What did the high Priest comment before he flushed the toilet? A: Holy Crap!

Q: What does Mitt Romney say when he farts? A: Obama did it.

Q: What do you call "fart" in German? A: Farfrompoopin!

Q: What is it called when Queen of England farts? A: A noble gas.

Q: What does it mean to 'cupcake' someone? A: Fart in your hand and put you hand in someone's face

A skeleton was trying to fart in a crowded place. But in the end it couldn't 'cos it had no guts.

Why fart and waste when you can burp and taste?

I fart. Why?....... because it's the only gas I can afford.

If you fart during a game of Twister, you are dead to me.

Laugh and the world laughs with you; fart and they'll stop laughing.

While at dinner party, a man farts. Other man says “How dare you fart in front of my wife”. First man says “Sorry, I didn’t realize it was her turn”.

source: http://www.jokes4us.com/barjokes/fartjokes.html




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:30:14 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


Another popular leftist misconception.
Slaves, not blacks, were counted as 3/5 of their actual number for purposed of representation in the House, and only for that purposes. This meant that South Carolina, which was about 50% slave only had 4/5 the representation in the house that their actual population would have earned them.

The fucking lie in your bullshit statement is that if those blacks could vote there would be no black slaves in s.corolina.





Musicmystery -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:31:59 AM)

Thanks for the further (farter?) insight into your character and capacity.




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:33:45 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

A bolt is more accurate in skilled hands.

Would you have any validation for this moronic unsubstantiated opinion?


and Marines wouldn't complain about recoil if it broke their shoulder.

You don't know shit about marines so why act like you do?

The .223 was not designed to kill, it was designed to disable, a wounded enemy does more damage than a dead one.


Same for the 30-06...that is sop in battle.




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:36:21 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD
I prefer the Springfield 03A3 or Mauser 98 but that is a matter of taste.

A springfield is a mauser 98, so said the patent courts when they awarded the mauser co. millions of dollars in their suit against the u.s. govt for stealing their design with out compensation.




Sanity -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:37:13 AM)

Here we go

This is good

Produce the emails.

House GOP slashes IRS tax enforcement budget [




mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:37:28 AM)

1.) In the image I posted, there's a SPECIFIC EXCEPTION for the M1 Garand. Your reading comprehension problems aren't my concern.

Nor is the accuracy of your statements it would seem. The exception noted in the chart makes no mention of the clip being retained in the weapon.

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For those of you not understanding this, please refer to the movie, "Saving Private Ryan" when Matt Damon is in the hole repeatedly firing his M1, you hear a clank, and he says, I'm outta ammunition. That clank is the clip ejecting from the rifle on last shot. The french 1886 Lebel was a bolt mauser action, with roughly the same clipping deal, but as you pushed down the rounds into the internal mag, the clip crept up and out....didnt want to get that jammed between the bolt carrier and the headspace seat. Those are the two that come quickly to mind.




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:39:26 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

Ken you would have us believe that
if X equals recoil energy
and Y equals recoil energy used to work the action

Listen up...no recoil energy is used to operate the action. What operates the action is scavagened exhaust gasses that are directly behind the projectal.



that X-Y is greater than X
my 9 grade algebra teacher would have had you in the corner with a pointy hat.

Your 9 th grade algebra teacher would have spanked your ass purple for being so stupid as to make such a statement.




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:44:40 AM)

ORIGINAL: BamaD
You said that less recoil is the reason that Marines like the bolt action sniper rifle,
That is either a lie or totally ignorant.

It is both


They preferred the bolt because it is more accurate and more dependable.

Same for this moronic shit.


You said the AR was built to kill and nothing else.
A round that isn't big enough to hunt deer isn't much of a killer.

The size of bullets used to take game with is cotrolled by legislative action not the balistics of a given cartridge.



You don't understand that when energy is used to do things before it gets to the stock it uses up some of the energy.


The energy used to do things with occures after all of the recoil has been experienced. The bolt does not unlock until after the cartridge is out of the barrel.




Musicmystery -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:47:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity



House GOP slashes IRS tax enforcement budget [

Ah yes. The Magic Money Party.

If you cut it, it will appear.

[8|]

Clowns.




Sanity -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:49:28 AM)

The childish little morons want to play games? Okay, lets play games.




mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:50:44 AM)

Shall we call it the ignorance of nutsackers thread, then? Thats what is mostly on display.




Musicmystery -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:55:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

The childish little morons want to play games? Okay, lets play games.

....with the revenue and the credit of the American people.

Get rid of these clowns and vote in some public servants.




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 10:57:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LetstalkboutRAP3

@DomKen

Momentum and energy are both always conserved. Where they go is the question. Momentum ultimately ends up in either the Earth or the air after moving through the weapon and/or the shooter.

Energy has all kinds of things it can do. It can turn into motion, light, heat, mechanical energy, deformation energy (bones, tendons, tissue)... When a given round is fired, and given rounds always contain (almost) exactly the same amount of chemical energy (powder charge), if it is fired from a semi-automatic some of it's energy is used to perform the work of ejecting the spent casing and loading the next cartridge. That is energy that is then unavailable to do anything else, like, say, hit the shooter in the shoulder.


No that is energy that is not used to propell the bullet down range. Remember the cartridge has been fired and all of the energy is expended against the bolt face. It is not until the bullet is almost to the end of the barrel that some small amount of the propelling gasses is scavanged to operate the mechanism... how much energy is used ? The barrel is .30" in dia. the scavange hole is about .010" since area is a exponential function it is easy to see that the scavanged energy is miniscule.


Semi-automatics have additional parts, which means more mass, which means the weapon accelerates backward more slowly. Slower acceleration over a given distance (stock to shoulder) means lower velocity. Kinetic energy increases linearly with mass, and exponentially with velocity. This is why semi-automatics produce less felt recoil than their manual feed counterparts, because there actually is less energy moving into the shooter. This is well established within the shooting community and supported by classical mechanics. It can be substantially less too, depending on the weapon and round in question.

Comparing like calibers and varying the weights of the weapon as you point out is a linier function. The two basic weapons being discussed are the 03 springfield and the m1 rifle. Only an approximate 10% difference in wt. Since all of the recoil energy is produced at the bolt face all of the recoil is felt. That initial felt recoil will be reduced as the extra wt absorbs it's percentage of the recoil. Thus the differences described by the term "percieved recoil"

The reason that snipers prefer manual feed weapons is because they are generally the simplest, most reliable, and most accurate weapons available.


Carlos prefered a ma duce...a fifty cal. machine gun that would fire single shot also.




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 11:02:24 AM)

ORIGINAL: LetstalkboutRAP3

It's purpose is to protect ALL rights from any enemy who would dare infringe them, be that enemy foreign or domestic.

Should you ever acquire a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade you would know that the second ammendment was written so that white people could have guns to keep black slaves in line.
The anti federalist papers are avaible on line and the opinions of patrick henry and george mason (slave owners) on the necessity of the 2nd for this purpose.





He's exactly right. The energy of the round is constant. The energy of the round that makes it into the shoulder of the shooter is LESS in a gas operated semi-automatic, than it is in a manual feed version of the same weapon. PERIOD. He's hardly an idiot. Neither are you. Unlike you, he is right in this instance.

No he is not




Sanity -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 11:02:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

The childish little morons want to play games? Okay, lets play games.

....with the revenue and the credit of the American people.

Get rid of these clowns and vote in some public servants.




Dry your eyes child, this only means the IRS goons will have to cut back on their lavish conferences. Maybe produce a few less parody vids, clamp down on illegal payouts

Or possibly even keep closer tabs on expensive hard drives etc (the horror).




Musicmystery -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 11:06:03 AM)

Oh ye of little brain. Read your own link:

"a 25 percent cut that would mean fewer audits of taxpayers and make it more likely that people who cheat on their taxes will get away with it."

Wish I could just cut everything 25% and have no consequences. Oh, wait . . . they can't either.





Lucylastic -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 11:11:07 AM)

theyve already had 17% of their finances cut since 2002





thishereboi -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 11:11:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Actually, he dumped a bunch of text pointing out why it was ineffectual, a resolution that wasn't taken seriously at the next step.

And incidentally, the "Dancing Moron" is one of the sharpest people I've ever met.

And I know a lot of very smart people.




One moron who thinks he's a moose calls another moron a genius, could be a SNL skit






No, because the snl people would be able to figure out that that's not a moose.




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