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mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 1:49:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
and acquited. February 1999. Therefore not impeached, and he wiped his ass with it. Senators threw that dogshit out.


You're severely confused about the definitions of "impeached" and "convicted".


Not at all. A bill of impeachment (which it was not) but rather a resolution which is a resolution, an opinion, is nothing, non-binding nothing, is tried in the Senate to determine cause and fact.

Here is a house resolution:


The House on Thursday passed, 411-2, a resolution condemning the abduction of Nigerian female students by the terrorist group Boko Haram.

Boko Haram abducted 276 schoolgirls in April and threa.........yadda fuckin yadda..........yadda.........


The effect of which is?






mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 1:56:16 PM)

They didnt spend large sums lobbying for the bailout, for one major reason. GM and Chrysler did.




Mouth4Mistress -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 2:02:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Nutsackers lie all the time, they take an oath to lie.


Yes, that is what Democrats do the best, you're 100% correct.




mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 2:08:01 PM)

You not only dont understand English, sock, but you are unable to find your ass with two hands and a flashlight.




DomKen -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 3:32:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Here we go

This is good

Produce the emails.

House GOP slashes IRS tax enforcement budget [

Actually they cut the IRS enforcement budget several years back. It is having a serious impact on tax collection. the very rich are simply cheating since they IRC cannot afford to audit all the very complicated returns the super rich file like they should.




DomKen -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 3:36:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Wait a sec...

So, are you saying that Clinton wasn't actually impeached?

Might you be saying that there was an impeachment hearing that resulted in him not being impeached?

That cannot possibly be true, as many of the Conservatives I follow on this board quite often talk about when Clinton was impeached.

Unless....

Being impeached equals being charged. Clinton was charged by the House, however the trial was held in the Senate which did not convict. So Clinton was impeached but not convicted.
Johnson (Andrew not Lyndon) was impeached but not convicted.
Nixon was impeached but resigned before the trial in the Senate began.
Many people are confused by this due in large part to the poor teaching of American History and government. It is only natural that someone who lives in a place where these things are (with good reason) not a priority would have problems with that conversation.

Nixon was not impeached. Speaking of the poor quality of the knowledge of American history...




DomKen -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 3:38:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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If GM and Chrysler had been allowed to collapse that would have wiped out both the 2 million+ jobs the companied employed directly plus the millions more in the businesses that supplied parts to them. In the middle of the worst recession since the Great Depression. That would have essentially shut down our economy.
Is that what you really wanted?


What would have come up in their places, Ken?


Nothing for years. You understand that right. For many of the people put out of work no equivalent job would ever have come along.




BamaD -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 3:45:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Wait a sec...

So, are you saying that Clinton wasn't actually impeached?

Might you be saying that there was an impeachment hearing that resulted in him not being impeached?

That cannot possibly be true, as many of the Conservatives I follow on this board quite often talk about when Clinton was impeached.

Unless....

Being impeached equals being charged. Clinton was charged by the House, however the trial was held in the Senate which did not convict. So Clinton was impeached but not convicted.
Johnson (Andrew not Lyndon) was impeached but not convicted.
Nixon was impeached but resigned before the trial in the Senate began.
Many people are confused by this due in large part to the poor teaching of American History and government. It is only natural that someone who lives in a place where these things are (with good reason) not a priority would have problems with that conversation.

Nixon was not impeached. Speaking of the poor quality of the knowledge of American history...

Again you show your ignorance.
The House passed articles of impeachment, introduced by Paul Sarbans. It was the centerpiece of his next campaign.
Once they passed this he was impeached, but the trail in the senate was avoided by his resignation.




Mouth4Mistress -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 3:45:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
If GM and Chrysler had been allowed to collapse that would have wiped out both the 2 million+ jobs the companied employed directly plus the millions more in the businesses that supplied parts to them. In the middle of the worst recession since the Great Depression. That would have essentially shut down our economy.
Is that what you really wanted?

What would have come up in their places, Ken?

Nothing for years. You understand that right. For many of the people put out of work no equivalent job would ever have come along.


Totally. After all, it's not like there are any other automotive / aircraft / farm equipment / similar manufacturers in America, who would love to have a fresh pool of skilled & experienced workers to hire from. If GM closed their doors, then Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Boeing, Lockheed, and all the other guys would just disappear into thin air as well. It would be (drumroll, please) the EEEEENNNNDD OF THE WOOOOOOORLD!




Mouth4Mistress -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 3:49:56 PM)

BamaD, I personally have given up trying to explain the difference between "impeachment" and "conviction" to this guy.

In his mind, "impeachment" and "conviction" are the same, even though one is the beginning of the process, and the other is the end.

I wonder how he would handle the concept of "indictment"? Would probably blow his little mind.




BamaD -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 3:53:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

BamaD, I personally have given up trying to explain the difference between "impeachment" and "conviction" to this guy.

In his mind, "impeachment" and "conviction" are the same, even though one is the beginning of the process, and the other is the end.

I wonder how he would handle the concept of "indictment"? Would probably blow his little mind.

His level of knowledge is consistent across all subjects. This makes him the poster boy for this thread.
PS Many people do not understand that impeachment is, as you say, the indictment.




mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:00:46 PM)

so, Nixon was impeached by your same reasoning.




mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:07:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

BamaD, I personally have given up trying to explain the difference between "impeachment" and "conviction" to this guy.

In his mind, "impeachment" and "conviction" are the same, even though one is the beginning of the process, and the other is the end.

I wonder how he would handle the concept of "indictment"? Would probably blow his little mind.



You can blow me you little minded fuck. why dont you go back to licking toilet bowls you ignorant shiteater




Mouth4Mistress -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:07:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
so, Nixon was impeached by your same reasoning.


LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOUR DUMB ASS

Clinton was impeached.
Nixon was about to be impeached, but resigned before the impeachment could be formalized.




mnottertail -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:20:14 PM)

tell you what shitlicker, google might be good enough for you, but impeachment proceedings are not impeachment, otherwise, Nixon was impeached.

please note this FROM THE HOUSE, approved by Nutsackers such as yourself that were elected:

http://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Impeachment/

The gravamen lies here:

The House's Role

The House brings impeachment charges against federal officials as part of its oversight and investigatory responsibilities. Individual Members of the House can introduce impeachment resolutions like ordinary bills, or the House could initiate proceedings by passing a resolution authorizing an inquiry. The Committee on the Judiciary ordinarily has jurisdiction over impeachments, but special committees investigated charges before the Judiciary Committee was created in 1813. The committee then chooses whether to pursue articles of impeachment against the accused official and report them to the full House. If the articles are adopted (by simple majority vote), the House appoints Members by resolution to manage the ensuing Senate trial on its behalf. These managers act as prosecutors in the Senate and are usually members of the Judiciary Committee. The number of managers has varied across impeachment trials but has traditionally been an odd number. The partisan composition of managers has also varied depending on the nature of the impeachment, but the managers, by definition, always support the House’s impeachment action.

note that until the senate convicts, there is no impeachment, there is an impeachment resolution, there is an impeachment proceeding, impeachment actions, no impeachments. Impeachments would remove from office.

The Use of Impeachment

The House has initiated impeachment proceedings more than 60 times but less than a third have led to full impeachments. Just eight—all federal judges—have been convicted and removed from office by the Senate. Outside of the 15 federal judges impeached by the House, two Presidents (Andrew Johnson in 1868 and William Jefferson (Bill) Clinton in 1998), a cabinet secretary (William Belknap in 1876), and a U.S. Senator (William Blount of North Carolina in 1797) have also been impeached.


Then, here they shift the value of the word, making it worthless, just like holding someone in contempt of congress. Laughable asswipe, all of it. The nutsackers and goons and thugs of the right are very quick to accuse, but turn out to be factless, inept partisan shitbreathers, 87% of the time. And that seems about right. So, if impeaching means simply accusing, then Nixon was impeached, you have been impeached, we all have been impeached, its a big club and means nothing, it is typical nutsacker histrionics.

Glad we settled that. You win, fuckwad. Live with it all and be satisfied, including the impeachment of nutsackers, or live with none of it.

It is partisan masturbating at its finest. But like any other thing the nutsackers do, essentially meaningless.




Politesub53 -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:26:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
so, Nixon was impeached by your same reasoning.


LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOUR DUMB ASS

Clinton was impeached.
Nixon was about to be impeached, but resigned before the impeachment could be formalized.


So if he reigned before being impeachment was formalized, he wasnt impeached.

It isnt hard to follow is it.




BamaD -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:27:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
so, Nixon was impeached by your same reasoning.


LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOUR DUMB ASS

Clinton was impeached.
Nixon was about to be impeached, but resigned before the impeachment could be formalized.

Ok the house committee passed the impeachment articles and Nixon resigned at the behest of Goldwater and two other Republican Senators.
I was in basic training at the time and didn't realize that the resignation came before the full house could vote.




Mouth4Mistress -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:30:21 PM)

I rarely perma-block people, but mnottertail has just indicted himself into that rarefied hall of fame.




thompsonx -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:52:13 PM)


ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Well Tommy boy,

Only your mother is allowed to call me that. I will thank you to keep a civil tongue in your mouth.


Oh Tommy, If youve been fucking my mother, I regret to inform you you now have HIV... Sorry about that... I hear the health care plan now covers the drugs so you can live a nice long life...

It was a lady I play bridge with who said she was your mother.
Why do you think your mother is a slut?
Are you the one who gave her hiv?





Arturas -> RE: The ignorance of liberals (7/15/2014 4:52:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mouth4Mistress

I rarely perma-block people, but mnottertail has just indicted himself into that rarefied hall of fame.


*Snort*

It would not be the first time. I promise. Don't answer him and he goes away. He is trolling of course. One normally would not get away with it but he is careful where and how he does it and "everyone" is so used to it that it kinda hits and then slides off the wall like flung dung that lost it's smell. It is a hobby with him. Not all the time, just a lot.




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