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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 2:22:33 PM   
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Obama Weighs Airstrikes or Aid to Help Trapped Iraqis

WASHINGTON — President Obama is considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, administration officials said on Thursday...


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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 2:27:37 PM   
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Islamic State pulls down church crosses in northern Iraq as 200,000 flee


Islamic State, the jihadist group formerly known as Isis, have occupied churches in Iraq, removing crosses and destroying manuscripts, witnesses report, having overrun Kurdish troops forcing 200,000 to flee...


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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 2:29:27 PM   
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Obama Weighs Airstrikes or Aid to Help Trapped Iraqis

WASHINGTON — President Obama is considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, administration officials said on Thursday...


Or he may go golfing


Whatever he does it will be better than you or any other nutsacker can do.


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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 2:31:09 PM   
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Islamic State pulls down church crosses in northern Iraq as 200,000 flee


Islamic State, the jihadist group formerly known as Isis, have occupied churches in Iraq, removing crosses and destroying manuscripts, witnesses report, having overrun Kurdish troops forcing 200,000 to flee...




They will make the mistake of their life if they actually go into Kurdish lands. That would be the end of them in my estimation.

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 4:30:02 PM   
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Wow, just wow. At least you're not a racist. Yeah you were lying, but at least you're not a racist. Woof. I have a question. When did lying become morally superior to racism? And who says so, besides you? And how could that be? Isn't racism built on lies? What makes your lies morally superior? A racist furthering his agenda with lies and an "anti-racist" furthering his agenda with lies are morally indistinguishable. Ends do not justify means. You have gone over to the Dark Side.

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Lying would be your stupid fucking claim that I said I was lying.

Still, nice to see you defending racism, yet again.


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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 4:33:46 PM   
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I'm sorry, but how exactly is the song racist? I'll give you that it's insensitive and more then a bit repugnant, but I don't see it as inherently racist.

Because it calls Martin a thug? Thug isn't a word applied solely to one race. (and from what I've read Martin was a bit of a thug, or at least a thug in training) Because it says his hoodie is bloody? A hoodie isn't something worn by any single race, hell Daisy's ex GF was white, blond, and blue-eyed and wore hoodies all the the time. And I believe Martin was wearing one at the time of his death, so...

Other then your assertions that you found it on on a white supremacist site (which you later admitted wasn't true), what makes it racist?



Another one who feels some comedy song about a dead black kid not to be racist.

And yes, I did only find part of it on a racist web site........ maybe one of you fucking clowns could show me anywhere else you have found part of it ?



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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 4:36:22 PM   
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Liar, I pointed out two and you didn't explain either one. (of course you couldn't explain the song at the time it was posted so I am not surprised you can't now) You just resorted to your usual insults. Is anyone else surprised because I am not.


Stop jumping on Kiratas band wagon and show me any place else even part of the song was posted.

As for you not getting the quotes, I am hardly surprised you dont spot racism before your very eyes.

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 4:38:10 PM   
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Or he may go golfing


More trolling.

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 4:45:03 PM   
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Islamic State pulls down church crosses in northern Iraq as 200,000 flee


Islamic State, the jihadist group formerly known as Isis, have occupied churches in Iraq, removing crosses and destroying manuscripts, witnesses report, having overrun Kurdish troops forcing 200,000 to flee...




They will make the mistake of their life if they actually go into Kurdish lands. That would be the end of them in my estimation.


The first couple of Kurdish towns surrendered unilaterally. Not clear why from news reports. Perhaps it's part of a larger strategy to trap ISIS, perhaps it's fear that they (the Kurds) don't have the firepower to defeat them.


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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 4:48:12 PM   
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Obama Weighs Airstrikes or Aid to Help Trapped Iraqis

WASHINGTON — President Obama is considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, administration officials said on Thursday...


Or he may go golfing


Whatever he does it will be better than you or any other nutsacker can do.



In fact, had Obama not drawn a red line in Syria and then failed to enforce it, he would have far more cred than he has today (still very little IMO, but far more than the laughingstock he is). In this case, doing absolutely nothing (not drawing a red line in the first place, which any of us "nutsackers" could have done) would have been a far superior strategy to what Obama actually did. There are other cases, too, most of them involving his trope "there will be consequences" and then ... well ... showing that the consequences apparently involve his golfing. All such utterances have a negative expected value.

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 4:54:00 PM   
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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 5:37:36 PM   
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More trolling.



Odd how, you're a trolls troll, yet you don't know what trolling is

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 5:40:49 PM   
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Here are some strange bedfellows for you

Looks like the USA may be fighting alongside Iran vs ISIS

I applaud Obama's apparently, finally, grudgingly authorizing these belated airstrikes

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 6:39:54 PM   
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Wow, just wow. At least you're not a racist. Yeah you were lying, but at least you're not a racist. Woof. I have a question. When did lying become morally superior to racism? And who says so, besides you? And how could that be? Isn't racism built on lies? What makes your lies morally superior? A racist furthering his agenda with lies and an "anti-racist" furthering his agenda with lies are morally indistinguishable. Ends do not justify means. You have gone over to the Dark Side.

K.[/font][/size]


Lying would be your stupid fucking claim that I said I was lying.

Still, nice to see you defending racism, yet again.




He wasn't defending racism. Do you honestly think no one can read that quote and see you are full of shit.

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 6:41:00 PM   
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Liar, I pointed out two and you didn't explain either one. (of course you couldn't explain the song at the time it was posted so I am not surprised you can't now) You just resorted to your usual insults. Is anyone else surprised because I am not.


Stop jumping on Kiratas band wagon and show me any place else even part of the song was posted.

As for you not getting the quotes, I am hardly surprised you dont spot racism before your very eyes.




You said you were going to explain it, you didn't, hence you lied. Again.

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/7/2014 10:20:37 PM   
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Wow, just wow. At least you're not a racist. Yeah you were lying, but at least you're not a racist. Woof. I have a question. When did lying become morally superior to racism? And who says so, besides you? And how could that be? Isn't racism built on lies? What makes your lies morally superior? A racist furthering his agenda with lies and an "anti-racist" furthering his agenda with lies are morally indistinguishable. Ends do not justify means. You have gone over to the Dark Side.

Lying would be your stupid fucking claim that I said I was lying.

That you were lying has already been established, and your admission of it is implicit in, "at least I am not racist."

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nice to see you defending racism, yet again.

You need to have your pants shortened. Attacking your lies isn't "defending racism."

K.


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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/8/2014 2:52:57 AM   
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This analysis by veteran war and ME correspondent Patrick Cockburn makes for particularly depressing reading:
"The very speed and unexpectedness of its rise make it easy for Western and regional leaders to hope that the fall of Isis and the implosion of the Caliphate might be equally sudden and swift. But all the evidence is that this is wishful thinking and the trend is in the other direction, with the opponents of Isis becoming weaker and less capable of resistance: in Iraq the army shows no signs of recovering from its earlier defeats and has failed to launch a single successful counter-attack; in Syria the other opposition groups, including the battle-hardened fighters of al-Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham, are demoralised and disintegrating as they are squeezed between Isis and the Assad government. Karen Koning Abuzayd, a member of the UN’s Commission of Inquiry in Syria, says that more and more Syrian rebels are defecting to Isis: ‘They see it’s better, these guys are strong, these guys are winning battles, they were taking territory, they have money, they can train us.’ This is bad news for the government, which barely held off an assault in 2012 and 2013 by rebels less well trained, organised and armed than Isis; it will have real difficulties stopping the forces of the Caliphate advancing west."

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n16/patrick-cockburn/isis-consolidates

Cockburn sees little hope of reversing IS's gains and reports the Caliphate declared by IS could mark the most radical change to the region since the days of Sykes-Picot and the imperialist division of the region into spheres of UK and French dominance.

The legacy of Bush-Blair-Howard and the neo-cons is being written in blood by Iraqis and Syrians who continue to dies in their thousands. The region's prospects continue to oscillate between horrible and horrifying.

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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/8/2014 8:24:44 AM   
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The legacy of Bush-Blair-Howard and the neo-cons is being written in blood by Iraqis and Syrians who continue to dies in their thousands. The region's prospects continue to oscillate between horrible and horrifying.


Despite the propaganda, Bush hasn't been running things for the last six years

Barack Flashback: 'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/14/remarks-president-and-first-lady-end-war-iraq

Joe Biden:

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“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”

Then Joe rode off on a unicorn down a road made of rainbows.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/12/watch-joe-biden-call-iraq-one-of-the-great-achievements-of-this-administration/


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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/8/2014 11:25:23 AM   
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Obama Weighs Airstrikes or Aid to Help Trapped Iraqis

WASHINGTON — President Obama is considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, administration officials said on Thursday...


Or he may go golfing










Since Taft, Republican presidents have openly and publicly played golf.

Teddy Roosevelt played too, but not publicly.

http://www.thegolfballfactory.com/the-golf-course/hole18/President-Taft-the-first-golfing-president.htm



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RE: ISIS Destroying Relics - 8/8/2014 11:29:31 AM   
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ISIS Threatens America: ‘We Will Raise The Flag Of Allah In The White House’

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/08/isis-threatens-america-we-will-raise-the-flag-of-allah-in-the-white-house/#ixzz39pJMIfyK


Obama bombs Iraq

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/09/world/middleeast/iraq.html?_r=0

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