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Musicmystery -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 11:37:19 AM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scPJVXCGFns

Recorded in 2007 . . .




Politesub53 -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 12:02:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

He wasn't defending racism. Do you honestly think no one can read that quote and see you are full of shit.


Only those defending racism.

I happily note you have been unable to find any place part of the song has been posted, except on a white supremecist web site. You are a fucking hypocrite, because if the song had been about a dead gay person, you wouldnt be defending it in any way shape or form.







Kirata -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 1:11:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Do you honestly think no one can read that quote and see you are full of shit.

Only those defending racism.

In a forum like this where all kinds of ordinary assholery are commonplace, the Asshole Merit Badge is difficult to earn. But you have achieved that distinction. Congratulations, Polite.
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K.




Politesub53 -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 1:17:57 PM)

Its your badge dude, thanks for the offer but it looks better on you.




Sanity -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 2:44:31 PM)

From the "truth is often stranger than fiction" files:

Reporter to (White House spokesman) Earnest: Does (Obama bombing ISIS) Mean ISIS Is No Longer Considered A "JV" Team?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/08/08/reporter_to_earnest_does_this_mean_isis_is_no_longer_considered_a_jv_team.html

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/acosta-to-wh-does-obama-still-think-isil-is-a-jv-team/





mnottertail -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 2:51:18 PM)

Does Mission Accomplished mean, Mission Accomplished, or does this mean what it means?


"Americans are again left asking the question 'where are the jobs?'

"Republicans have pledged to listen. We've pledged to act, and we have," the speaker says.

John Boehner- June 14, 2012




subrosaDom -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 2:51:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

From the "truth is often stranger than fiction" files:

Reporter to (White House spokesman) Earnest: Does (Obama bombing ISIS) Mean ISIS Is No Longer Considered A "JV" Team?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/08/08/reporter_to_earnest_does_this_mean_isis_is_no_longer_considered_a_jv_team.html

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/acosta-to-wh-does-obama-still-think-isil-is-a-jv-team/




"We will raise the flag of Allah over the White House." http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-comments-on-white-house-2014-8

I can't wait for references to the following:

"We will raise the flag of Buddha over the White House."
"We will raise the flag of Yahweh over the White House."
"We will raise the flag of Vishnu over the White House."
"We will raise the flag of Christ over the White House."
"We will raise the flag of Jehovah over the White House."
"We will raise the flag of Satan over the White House."
"We will raise the flag of The Vatican over the White House."

We all know the film "It's something about Mary." The new film should be "It's something about Allah." After watching it, all infidels will be executed.





Politesub53 -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 3:37:05 PM)

I cant think why you would be so scared of some terrorist prick mouthing off on web cam.

Do you actually think there is a hope in hell of Isis taking control of the White Houe ? Still, it is good ammunition for the scaremongers among you.




Sanity -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 3:56:31 PM)

Odd that Barack is bombing them since its just "some terrorist prick mouthing off on web cam"

Oh look - Britain might join Barack in bombing Iraq




Politesub53 -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 4:06:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Odd that Barack is bombing them since its just "some terrorist prick mouthing off on web cam"

Oh look - Britain might join Barack in bombing Iraq



Did you read your own link........ Or even the headline you used ?

Unlike you i was okay with the UK and US using airpower in Libya to avert genocide, I am also okay with it in Iraq.

Please note nting in the link you used states the bombing is over the claim remarks in the video about flying flags in the White House. My remark about scaremongering was aimed squarely at those doing so on here.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 4:27:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Odd that Barack is bombing them since its just "some terrorist prick mouthing off on web cam"

Oh look - Britain might join Barack in bombing Iraq


You don't bother reading your links do you??

From your link -
quote:

In Britain, following an emergency Cobra meeting, Michael Fallon, the Defence Secretary, announced plans for a UK air drop of provisions for those displaced by the violence, and an £8 million emergency aid package. He said Britain would assist America with surveillance.

-- and --

A source said: “We are concerned we could be about to witness genocide. In that kind of scenario, we are not ruling things out.”
The Prime Minister, who has come under pressure from senior MPs to announce military action, has not yet spoken to Mr Obama about the developing crisis.

And the BBC news over here stated that we would not be involved in military action but only in humanitarian aid.




Sanity -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 6:21:47 PM)


From the article:

quote:

Britain considers air strikes to avert genocide in Iraq


UK could join America in launching military strikes against Islamist extremists in Iraq should the situation descend into genocide

Britain could join America in launching military strikes against Islamist extremists in Iraq should the situation descend into genocide, government sources said.





Musicmystery -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 8:18:57 PM)

"could . . . should the situation descend into genocide."

You're not good with qualifiers. Hurts your comprehension.




Sanity -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 9:46:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

"could . . . should the situation descend into genocide."

You're not good with qualifiers. Hurts your comprehension.


The word I chose was "might".

Oh the inhumanity

The horror




Sanity -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/8/2014 10:04:47 PM)

quote:

Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

WASHINGTON — In sending warplanes back into the skies over Iraq, President Obama on Thursday night found himself exactly where he did not want to be. Hoping to end the war in Iraq, Mr. Obama became the fourth president in a row to order military action in that graveyard of American ambition.

The mandate he gave to the armed forces was more limited than that of his predecessors, focused mainly on dropping food and water. But he also authorized targeted airstrikes “if necessary” against Islamic radicals advancing on the Kurdish capital of Erbil and others threatening to wipe out thousands of non-Muslims stranded on a remote mountaintop.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/world/middleeast/a-return-to-action.html?_r=0



With great reluctance he might stop some of the mass beheadings etc





tweakabelle -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/9/2014 12:04:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

quote:

Obama Weighs Airstrikes or Aid to Help Trapped Iraqis

WASHINGTON — President Obama is considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, administration officials said on Thursday...


Or he may go golfing


Whatever he does it will be better than you or any other nutsacker can do.



In fact, had Obama not drawn a red line in Syria and then failed to enforce it, he would have far more cred than he has today (still very little IMO, but far more than the laughingstock he is). In this case, doing absolutely nothing (not drawing a red line in the first place, which any of us "nutsackers" could have done) would have been a far superior strategy to what Obama actually did. There are other cases, too, most of them involving his trope "there will be consequences" and then ... well ... showing that the consequences apparently involve his golfing. All such utterances have a negative expected value.

The bipartisan US policy in the region was in tatters and ruins long before the infamous red line in the sands of Syria. I have been posting this claim here for a few years now. If you really insist on putting a date on it,(not a productive line to adopt IMHO) the day Obama caved in to the Zionist lobby is one candidate. Or his shameful abject speech to the UN is another. The date of the second invasion of Iraq is another, tho' that precedes Obama's office.

Lets face it, if the US is unwilling to use all the powers of persuasion it has at its disposal to get its "closest ally" in the region to stop committing war crimes and expanding the colonies/settlements, who in the region is going to pay much attention? The region's leaders will continue to line up with their hands out for US $ in 'aid' (read: bribes or arms sales) and then ignore the US's policy demands. Indeed why should they pay any attention to the US Govt when its clear that the US is not going to sanction any one who contravenes its policies.

The people of the region are all very well aware that US policy is designed in Jerusalem with Israeli interests paramount. The US's interests come a distant second. The region's population remembers incidents like the USS Liberty attack, even if the US and Isreal would prefer such incidents forgotten. Why would any national leader with a brain pay attention to people who place others interests above their own who have subcontracted policy to a bunch of foreigners?

What is needed is not finger pointing and blame shifting, what is needed is an entirely new approach towards the region, and a new policy that puts US interests above all others while recognising the legitimate interests of the vast (>95%) majority of the region's inhabitants.




subrosaDom -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/9/2014 12:13:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrosaDom


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

quote:

Obama Weighs Airstrikes or Aid to Help Trapped Iraqis

WASHINGTON — President Obama is considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, administration officials said on Thursday...


Or he may go golfing


Whatever he does it will be better than you or any other nutsacker can do.



In fact, had Obama not drawn a red line in Syria and then failed to enforce it, he would have far more cred than he has today (still very little IMO, but far more than the laughingstock he is). In this case, doing absolutely nothing (not drawing a red line in the first place, which any of us "nutsackers" could have done) would have been a far superior strategy to what Obama actually did. There are other cases, too, most of them involving his trope "there will be consequences" and then ... well ... showing that the consequences apparently involve his golfing. All such utterances have a negative expected value.

The bipartisan US policy in the region was in tatters and ruins long before the infamous red line in the sands of Syria. I have been posting this claim here for a few years now. If you really insist on putting a date on it,(not a productive line to adopt IMHO) the day Obama caved in to the Zionist lobby is one candidate. Or his shameful abject speech to the UN is another. The date of the second invasion of Iraq is another, tho' that precedes Obama's office.

Lets face it, if the US is unwilling to use all the powers of persuasion it has at its disposal to get its "closest ally" in the region to stop committing war crimes and expanding the colonies/settlements, who in the region is going to pay much attention? The region's leaders will continue to line up with their hands out for US $ in 'aid' (read: bribes or arms sales) and then ignore the US's policy demands. Indeed why should they pay any attention to the US Govt when its clear that the US is not going to sanction any one who contravenes its policies.

The people of the region are all very well aware that US policy is designed in Jerusalem with Israeli interests paramount. The US's interests come a distant second. The region's population remembers incidents like the USS Liberty attack, even if the US and Isreal would prefer such incidents forgotten. Why would any national leader with a brain pay attention to people who place others interests above their own who have subcontracted policy to a bunch of foreigners?

What is needed is not finger pointing and blame shifting, what is needed is an entirely new approach towards the region, and a new policy that puts US interests above all others while recognising the legitimate interests of the vast (>95%) majority of the region's inhabitants.


If you've been posting for years about the red line in Syria, then your psychic powers are indeed impressive :)

You're conflating Israel and your views of them with this matter and using them as a red herring to try to make your argument. Doesn't work.

The Saudis, Jordanians, Egyptians, and UAE have today similar interests to the Israelis. They don't really like the Muslim Brotherhood aka Hamas much either.




tweakabelle -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/9/2014 2:40:28 AM)

The various ways that some Americans find reasons to rationalise US foreign policy putting a foreign nation's interests ahead of the US interests amazes me. I can't think of any similar situation anywhere else, either today or in history. It is a simple fact that the primary goal of US policy in the region is promoting Israel and its interests, not the US and its interests. This is precisely why US policy is such a mess. But don't take my word for it, take US Ambassador to Isreal Shapiro's:
" [T]he test of every policy the Administration develops in the Middle East is whether it is consistent with the goal of ensuring Israel’s future as a secure, Jewish, democratic state. That is a commitment that runs as a common thread through our entire government, even while approaching the U.S.-Israel relationship and regional challenges from a variety of perspectives.
This test explains our extraordinary security cooperation, our stand against the delegitimization of Israel, our efforts on Iran, our response to the Arab Spring, and our efforts on Israeli-Palestinian peace.
"
http://jppi.org.il/news/93/58/Remarks-to-the-JPPI-by-US-Ambassador-Daniel-B-Shapiro/

Nor should you delude yourself about the Saudis, who along with Qatar and Turkey (all 3 nominally US allies), financed and armed IS in an attempt to expedite regime change in Damascus. It is difficult to see this happening without some kind of covert green light being given by Washington.

Just to clarify my previous posts as I don't recall you being around at the time: My posts argued that US policy in the region was the laughing stock of the region, not that a specific event would occur in Syria.




Politesub53 -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/9/2014 4:51:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


Just to clarify my previous posts as I don't recall you being around at the time: My posts argued that US policy in the region was the laughing stock of the region, not that a specific event would occur in Syria.


At least under this nick. [;)]




thishereboi -> RE: ISIS Destroying Relics (8/9/2014 6:01:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

He wasn't defending racism. Do you honestly think no one can read that quote and see you are full of shit.


Only those defending racism.

I happily note you have been unable to find any place part of the song has been posted, except on a white supremecist web site. You are a fucking hypocrite, because if the song had been about a dead gay person, you wouldnt be defending it in any way shape or form.






I have never looked for the song so no I haven't found it anywhere. Not sure why you feel the need to lie and claim I did. You are also lying when you claim I defended the song anywhere. In fact I stated that I thought it was a hateful song. You were the one who referred to it as comedy though I can't for the life of me see what you find funny about it. But keep spinning your wheels, I am sure a few of your loyal friends will back you up even when you lie.




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