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RE: Forced Bi - 9/19/2014 11:59:26 AM

thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Nothing personal, and I shall admit to some bias on holding Dominants to a higher standard of ethical conduct.

Why would a dominant be expected to be more ethical than a submissive or switch?

Did I say that? Please re-read,

Yes you did say that.
You said that you hold dominants to a higher standard of ethical conduct. That means, to those of us who speak english, that there are some who do not have the high ethical standards you expect out of a dominant. I am asking just who those less ethical people are.

Please re-read, or get somebody to help you with the big words.

You did not use any big words so I was able to read it by myself. Why do you feel the necessity to be rude?

This is MY personal bias as a Dominant myself. I was speaking AS a Dominant to another Dominant,

Which is why I ask for your personal opinion.

and I don't believe SM needs an interpreter for him, but you can ask him if you like.

Michael did not make the statement that he held dominants to a higher ethical standard so no need to ask for clarification.

I have more than given you a detailed explanation of where I am coming from.
That is all.

You have vocalized your opinion on many things except who you hold dominants to be more ethical than.
You have made it abundantly clear that you do not wish to answer the question so I will quit asking.

< Message edited by thompsonx -- 9/19/2014 12:01:31 PM >

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RE: Forced Bi - 9/19/2014 12:08:25 PM

subrosaDom

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One of the things that absolutely drives me mad on the forums is the adamant dislike people get for a person because of something they once posted to a thread.

I hate to disagree with you Maria, but if someone espouses something that I find morally repugnant, then I am going to adamantly dislike them forever. And I think that's the right thing to do. I'm human, I have judgment. And I believe it is appropriate to use that judgment, otherwise why do we have that ability?

A few years ago I had an online friend on here who jumped on everything I said in the forums and adamantly agreed with me. When I disagreed with him over something he said that clearly couldn’t stand up to logical scrutiny, he let leash a concealed and more unpleasant side. From that day forth I was the target of his sarcasms, metaphors and... satire. He became so bitter; It was as though I’d insulted his mother or deliberately run over his dog, when all I’d actually done was disagree with him in an otherwise spirited discussion.

I often recoil at the vitriol, not only on here but on just about every site I use, (dog forums are an exception) but I accept that uncivil remarks and sarcasms are part of the course in any heavy debating room. Its not something that has me disliking a poster. Different if I see them repeatedly bullying others or start insulting my personal relationships.

On certain forums I’m careful who I quote and disagree with because some people can’t see the difference between a strongly stated disagreement and harassment.

I love challenging peoples ideas. I can’t simply accept other people's ideologies if they directly conflict with my own. I love a rigorous debate, but unfortunately they often turn conversations into a smoking battlefield. That's fine, providing when we move on to the next discussion we aren't still carrying that smoking gun.

There's nothing wrong with sarcasm and obviously some people are just kind of into trading "insults," but there's clearly a line not to cross and there's no place for serious ad hominems (while I don't use these, I don't think someone who repeatedly calls others a "moron" is particularly bothersome, but if you start to make it truly personal and hurtful, you've crossed a line). At the same time, forums are meant to have open discussions, and so you have to have some cajones to stay here. There are obviously threads that don't go in this direction, but if you go to the politics board, where I post frequently, there's plenty of vitriol and you simply have to "man up" or "woman up," as it were.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/7/2014 8:28:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

The reason this place sucks is the mods chose to do nothing in this thread but I responded to someone in another that she was being, a gasp, SOURPUSS and since I think she is a mod and doesn't like...deleted that TERRIBLE insult and left the ones in this thread alone.

Any wonder this place is a fucking wasteland?

Actually, this isn't how it is normally done. This would not have been allowed had I not been laying in a hospital bed fighting for my life. You can be assured that this will not happen again and many posts and posters would have been removed.

I am very thankful for those that assisted while I was unavoidably detained by three medical teams and to those that didn't allow things to get worse. However, the name calling done on this thread will not happen again. I do hope I make myself clear here.

For those that might wonder about it. There are no more awaiting approvals. Just out right bans. You can state your opinion without abusing other members. Or you can break rules you know are established and take a time out.

This thread will now be locked.

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