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devotion1208 -> Forced Bi (7/10/2014 10:19:44 AM)
Well after being away from this site along while, I remember this was one of the hottest subjects. I notice now no sign of it, so I wonder if its a fad just died or all those guys asking for it have accepted they are bi lol.

clickandreboot -> RE: Forced Bi (9/14/2014 7:54:17 PM)
Interesting question. I have had personal experience with this and my conclusion is that by going along with it when I did (for my girlfriends sake at the time) I was bi long before hand but had simply not acknowledged it or even considered it.

SimplyMichael -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 9:03:17 AM)
No, I still love making straight women go down on each other!

CreativeDominant -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 1:43:23 PM)
Heyyyyy there, Michael...welcome back!!!

SimplyMichael -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 1:49:12 PM)
Its nice to see some familiar faces but I am not back, just sort of hanging out a bit.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 2:00:04 PM)
Don't hang out too far...you'll get caught in your zipper and that hurts![:D]

littleladybug -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 2:39:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael No, I still love making straight women go down on each other! Doesn't that mean that they're NOT straight?

SimplyMichael -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 2:49:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littleladybug quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael No, I still love making straight women go down on each other! Doesn't that mean that they're NOT straight? What decade do you think this is? FORCING someone to do something isn't the same as liking it. I have been FORCED to pay speeding tickets but that doesn't make me a fan of speeding tickets any more than telling someone, "I know you hate the taste of pussy but lick my cum up out of her cunt for me" does NOT make a woman bi or gay. GET REAL!

littleladybug -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:06:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael What decade do you think this is? FORCING someone to do something isn't the same as liking it. I have been FORCED to pay speeding tickets but that doesn't make me a fan of speeding tickets any more than telling someone, "I know you hate the taste of pussy but lick my cum up out of her cunt for me" does NOT make a woman bi or gay. GET REAL! My reality is that this is the decade where women have the absolute right to turn and walk through the door if they don't like what is being presented to them. Why do you pay speeding tickets?? Because a law has been violated. And, if you don't, you can get your registration or license suspended. Apples and freaking nuclear bombs... I guess by your definition, if a guy fucked me and then another guy licked my cum off of his cock at my behest, that wouldn't make him bi, at all. Frankly, I think you're full of it. No one is going to do this without having a predisposed inclination to it. If I was in the situation that you presented, and I had no inclination for other women...I'd tell you just where to go. "Being with you" is not reward enough to change my sexuality. And, that's what decade it is. I'd probably tell you nicely where to go...but that would be it. You are not "forcing" anyone to be bi through your magical Domly powers. You are simply manipulating their own predispositions.

SimplyMichael -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:10:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littleladybug "Being with you" is not reward enough to change my sexuality. And, that's what decade it is. I'd probably tell you nicely where to go...but that would be it. You are not "forcing" anyone to be bi through your magical Domly powers. Clearly we haven't met...

RockaRolla -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:17:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littleladybug quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael What decade do you think this is? FORCING someone to do something isn't the same as liking it. I have been FORCED to pay speeding tickets but that doesn't make me a fan of speeding tickets any more than telling someone, "I know you hate the taste of pussy but lick my cum up out of her cunt for me" does NOT make a woman bi or gay. GET REAL! My reality is that this is the decade where women have the absolute right to turn and walk through the door if they don't like what is being presented to them. Why do you pay speeding tickets?? Because a law has been violated. And, if you don't, you can get your registration or license suspended. Apples and freaking nuclear bombs... I guess by your definition, if a guy fucked me and then another guy licked my cum off of his cock at my behest, that wouldn't make him bi, at all. Frankly, I think you're full of it. No one is going to do this without having a predisposed inclination to it. If I was in the situation that you presented, and I had no inclination for other women...I'd tell you just where to go. "Being with you" is not reward enough to change my sexuality. And, that's what decade it is. I'd probably tell you nicely where to go...but that would be it. You are not "forcing" anyone to be bi through your magical Domly powers. You are simply manipulating their own predispositions. Not so sure about that. I've met plenty of women who were less into the possibility of getting with another woman than she was with satisfying her SO's fantasies. I wouldn't consider that a predisposition to anything other than a weakened spine. Yes, women have the option to stand up for themselves now. Doesn't mean we're all aware of that.

SimplyMichael -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:23:14 PM)
Weakened spine? Wow, you certainly have a wacked out vision of submission. I wouldn't date a woman who wasn't dominant in her vanilla life and often date ones who are also dominant in the scene but submissive to me. It is only in possessing strength that to me surrender gains value, I require the ability to say no before a woman's "yes" has any value to me.

littleladybug -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:24:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael quote: ORIGINAL: littleladybug "Being with you" is not reward enough to change my sexuality. And, that's what decade it is. I'd probably tell you nicely where to go...but that would be it. You are not "forcing" anyone to be bi through your magical Domly powers. Clearly we haven't met... Clearly you're delusional...

Blonderfluff -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:28:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RockaRolla quote: ORIGINAL: littleladybug quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael What decade do you think this is? FORCING someone to do something isn't the same as liking it. I have been FORCED to pay speeding tickets but that doesn't make me a fan of speeding tickets any more than telling someone, "I know you hate the taste of pussy but lick my cum up out of her cunt for me" does NOT make a woman bi or gay. GET REAL! My reality is that this is the decade where women have the absolute right to turn and walk through the door if they don't like what is being presented to them. Why do you pay speeding tickets?? Because a law has been violated. And, if you don't, you can get your registration or license suspended. Apples and freaking nuclear bombs... I guess by your definition, if a guy fucked me and then another guy licked my cum off of his cock at my behest, that wouldn't make him bi, at all. Frankly, I think you're full of it. No one is going to do this without having a predisposed inclination to it. If I was in the situation that you presented, and I had no inclination for other women...I'd tell you just where to go. "Being with you" is not reward enough to change my sexuality. And, that's what decade it is. I'd probably tell you nicely where to go...but that would be it. You are not "forcing" anyone to be bi through your magical Domly powers. You are simply manipulating their own predispositions. Not so sure about that. I've met plenty of women who were less into the possibility of getting with another woman than she was with satisfying her SO's fantasies. I wouldn't consider that a predisposition to anything other than a weakened spine. Yes, women have the option to stand up for themselves now. Doesn't mean we're all aware of that. Far be it from me to speak for Michael, but I'm thinking he is speaking of HIS girls...not everyone in general. Submission means to submit...and not just to the things that we like. That wouldn't really be submitting, now would it? Of course, if forced bi has been talked about as an /s's hard limit, then it will either end the dynamic, or be honored. That is the choice of both people, and the reason for communication. IMO

RockaRolla -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:28:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael Weakened spine? Wow, you certainly have a wacked out vision of submission. I wouldn't date a woman who wasn't dominant in her vanilla life and often date ones who are also dominant in the scene but submissive to me. It is only in possessing strength that to me surrender gains value, I require the ability to say no before a woman's "yes" has any value to me. Is this some form of hyperbole? Because I don't recall making broad statements at all in my post. That was one subset of possibly submissive women out of those I've actually met.

RockaRolla -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:30:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blonderfluff quote: ORIGINAL: RockaRolla quote: ORIGINAL: littleladybug quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael What decade do you think this is? FORCING someone to do something isn't the same as liking it. I have been FORCED to pay speeding tickets but that doesn't make me a fan of speeding tickets any more than telling someone, "I know you hate the taste of pussy but lick my cum up out of her cunt for me" does NOT make a woman bi or gay. GET REAL! My reality is that this is the decade where women have the absolute right to turn and walk through the door if they don't like what is being presented to them. Why do you pay speeding tickets?? Because a law has been violated. And, if you don't, you can get your registration or license suspended. Apples and freaking nuclear bombs... I guess by your definition, if a guy fucked me and then another guy licked my cum off of his cock at my behest, that wouldn't make him bi, at all. Frankly, I think you're full of it. No one is going to do this without having a predisposed inclination to it. If I was in the situation that you presented, and I had no inclination for other women...I'd tell you just where to go. "Being with you" is not reward enough to change my sexuality. And, that's what decade it is. I'd probably tell you nicely where to go...but that would be it. You are not "forcing" anyone to be bi through your magical Domly powers. You are simply manipulating their own predispositions. Not so sure about that. I've met plenty of women who were less into the possibility of getting with another woman than she was with satisfying her SO's fantasies. I wouldn't consider that a predisposition to anything other than a weakened spine. Yes, women have the option to stand up for themselves now. Doesn't mean we're all aware of that. Far be it from me to speak for Michael, but I'm thinking he is speaking of HIS girls...not everyone in general. Submission means to submit...and not just to the things that we like. That wouldn't really be submitting, now would it? Of course, if forced bi has been talked about as an /s's hard limit, then it will either end the dynamic, or be honored. That is the choice of both people, and the reason for communication. IMO He may have been talking about his girls, but I was talking about a different group entirely, in response to littleladybug. Must we open every forum post with fifty yards of disclaimers?

SimplyMichael -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:32:43 PM)
Limits are there as signposts of places to tread carefully. Limits around medical conditions are clearly ones that are going to go badly wrong if you ignore them. Going down on a woman is not going to kill anyone, not going to "make them gay" and unlikely to result in emotional harm. So, can you just bark an order "eat pussy"? Well, I guess you CAN but it is likely to go badly south on you. Can you use experience and intuition to build the emotional supports and desires to make it happen? Absolutely. Can everyone? NO.

littleladybug -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:36:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RockaRolla Not so sure about that. I've met plenty of women who were less into the possibility of getting with another woman than she was with satisfying her SO's fantasies. I wouldn't consider that a predisposition to anything other than a weakened spine. Yes, women have the option to stand up for themselves now. Doesn't mean we're all aware of that. I agree with you Rocka, to the extent that many (most) (all) women know that there are guys out there who get off on this. And, unfortunately, there are those women who will do whatever the guy says, no matter their own feelings. (I'm not speaking down about these women...I've been there, and to an extent, I still am...). But, really? I have a really, really hard time comprehending that someone is unabashedly straight doing this. (Nevermind the monogamy part..). But, then again, one must realize that the conversation also revolves around someone who believes that a submissive's reward is simply "being with him".

RockaRolla -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:44:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littleladybug quote: ORIGINAL: RockaRolla Not so sure about that. I've met plenty of women who were less into the possibility of getting with another woman than she was with satisfying her SO's fantasies. I wouldn't consider that a predisposition to anything other than a weakened spine. Yes, women have the option to stand up for themselves now. Doesn't mean we're all aware of that. I agree with you Rocka, to the extent that many (most) (all) women know that there are guys out there who get off on this. And, unfortunately, there are those women who will do whatever the guy says, no matter their own feelings. (I'm not speaking down about these women...I've been there, and to an extent, I still am...). But, really? I have a really, really hard time comprehending that someone is unabashedly straight doing this. (Nevermind the monogamy part..). But, then again, one must realize that the conversation also revolves around someone who believes that a submissive's reward is simply "being with him". I've been there as well. It's not a place I want to be again. But I can't say something's wrong simply because I don't understand or enjoy it. Honest question: What can a submissive, or anyone really, get out of a relationship that they cannot acquire on their own? There's a lot of talk about not "needing" to be with someone, the merits of being alone and happy over attached and miserable, etc. I'd argue that if the submissive is with someone and gets enjoyment out of making that person happy, being able to do that CAN be a reward. And hell, we were just talking about women who would do anything to please their partners.

littleladybug -> RE: Forced Bi (9/15/2014 3:51:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael Limits are there as signposts of places to tread carefully. Yup, no need at all to quote further than this. Let's, for shits and giggles, go with one of my limits...which is legal but gross. Scat. There's no "treading carefully" around this. It's a NO GO. My limits are a signpost much like a electric fence is. You're still going to get fried...no matter how carefully you "tread around it". (and, actually, it's kind of funny seeing you try to get around it...ZAAAPPPP) What this shows me is a lack of respect for the boundaries that your partner gives. Sure, stuff may change as the relationship changes...but to not respect limits as the "no go" zone? I would NEVER trust someone who thought that my limits were fungible.

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