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Marini -> RE: Forced Bi (9/17/2014 5:57:46 PM)
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
The thing I'm not getting here is a sense of knowledge of the "right to refuse".
There REALLY is such a thing as HARD LIMITS, it is just that simple.
HARD LIMITS are called HARD LIMITS.
If it is NOT a HARD limit, than we really have no discussion here.
Michael can "force" his girls into breaking certain limits. It's been spoken of by others...submissive and dominant. Yet...there seems to be an issue over the idea of force. What we do isn't always pretty. And one of the complaints you hear on the boards, from male and female dominants...and not complaining but recognition of by the submissives... is the "do me" submissive who not only has a long list of what he/she wants done but an...at times...longer list of what they don't. Along with this is a "how to" guide of how these things are to be done. This is all wrapped up in a description of how the dominant will be strong enough to guide and nurture while making his will felt. His/her will? Or his/her will...as expressed and explained by the submissive?
Don't get me wrong...I respect HARD limits. But everything else is fair game, including things you hate. I am not the one "yielding my will to another" (some of you may want to read those words again)...you are. My view of D/s being that way doesn't make me an asshole. I've got past submissives who'll tell you they lived by that and I was a nice, nurturing guy...mindful not just of their needs but their wants and desires and fears...but also mindful of my own and of the fact that I was NOT in a vanilla, "let's talk something to death or til I lose interest in it" relationship. But...I was also mindful of the fact that no matter when or where I pushed them, they had the one thing that every submissive has. The Right to Refuse to submit...to anything.
Now then, where the relationship would go after that is anyone's guess. I never had it happen due to this insistence on being the dominant my way. Because I used the kind, curious, caring part of me to get what the savage beast in me wanted when it came to the harder stuff. The time it did happen was something easy that became a crystallization of all the reasons why relocation would not work for her and why the relationship itself no longer worked for me.
I am a Dominant female, and I have plenty of HARD LIMITS.
One is men seeking "forced bi" activities.
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I really don't understand this conversation, unless we are speaking about people NOT respecting HARD LIMITS.
IF it is NOT a hard limit, really what is the point here?
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