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Financial - 7/10/2014 5:55:54 PM   
smokelover


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Status: offline 		Funny thing:

You see plenty of Dommes with financial as one of their interests. Yet none of the subs have this listed as a kink. Who claims this to be a real fetish? If Y/you end up in a relationship with a Dom/Domme. This will happen naturally. This is suppose to be a site for Dom/Domme and subs to find actual relationships. Not to drum up clientele.

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RE: Financial - 7/10/2014 6:06:35 PM   
Gauge


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quote:

ORIGINAL: smokelover

Funny thing:

You see plenty of Dommes with financial as one of their interests. Yet none of the subs have this listed as a kink. Who claims this to be a real fetish? If Y/you end up in a relationship with a Dom/Domme. This will happen naturally. This is suppose to be a site for Dom/Domme and subs to find actual relationships. Not to drum up clientele.

Yours trulyt
pulltoy


Welcome to the Forums.

Now that I have welcomed you, I believe a caution is in order. You have made a claim which some will agree with, and others will verbally berate you. There is such a dichotomy of opinions regarding financial domination that you are apt to get more than you bargained for. This is yet another one of the multitude of threads that claims that some people are not who they say they are and that this site is for *insert opinion here*.

I am betting money that you post less than ten times during your stay and ten times is a bit on the generous side.

Enjoy your stay...

< Message edited by Gauge -- 7/10/2014 6:07:01 PM >

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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 6:31:28 AM   
UllrsIshtar


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quote:

ORIGINAL: smokelover

Yet none of the subs have this listed as a kink.


Not true.

quote:

ORIGINAL: smokelover

Who claims this to be a real fetish?


Those who claim to have a fetish for it.

Incidentally -despite this not being the case in this instance, as both D & s types/males & females list this kink as a fetish- a fetish does not need to be equally represented by all genders and demographics for it to actually be considered a fetish.
If men come up with a fetish not shared by any woman on the planet, it is still a valid fetish by the definition of the word fetish, which does not include a qualifier of equal representative inclusivity.

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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 7:05:19 AM   
Miyani


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I have my doubts about the legitimacy of "body worship" as a fetish. I think it's an excuse to get at my squishy parts, and has nothing to do with worship at all. So when I see someone who lists it as a NEED, I go on the forums and bitch about them.

Oh wait, no I don't. I move on with my life and find people with whom I AM compatible, because everyone's into their own thing. The fact that they're into body worship affects me NOT AT ALL, and I have better things to do than worry about what gets them off. Plus, telling someone that what they're into "isn't real" is pretty darned rude, and that's not the kind of person I want to be.

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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 8:02:10 AM   
Lucylastic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: smokelover

Funny thing:

You see plenty of Dommes with financial as one of their interests. Yet none of the subs have this listed as a kink. Who claims this to be a real fetish? If Y/you end up in a relationship with a Dom/Domme. This will happen naturally. This is suppose to be a site for Dom/Domme and subs to find actual relationships. Not to drum up clientele.

Yours trulyt
pulltoy

ive had a profile here for 8 years
I dont have financial listed as a fetish, I am not a Pro, or Fin domme, yet I have had over 200 different "profiles" email me offering me money to "dominate" their wallets or their checkbooks.

yes its a fetish, no Im not interested, but meh, each to his own.
Weal and twue is subjective...usually those who look for "REAL anything" are usually too full of themselves to see other POV

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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 3:33:23 PM   
MistressDarkArt


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OP, I've been on this board at least 6 years. As you can see from my profile, I'm middle-aged, not particularly attractive, happily attached to someone I met here, not a findomme, not looking...hell, I don't even have any provocative pictures up and still, at least once a week like clockwork, somebody wants to give me money.

So yeah, it's a fetish even though it's not MY fetish. And before you bluster on with this tired old chestnut, let me remind you if there were not men asking for this, there would not be women providing it.

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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 3:40:43 PM   
MistressDarkArt


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Status: offline 		PS: This just in from a local-to-me-sub looking for findomme:

I have a cuckold fantasy I just can't get out of my head. Would any sexy, dominant women out there be willing to help me make it come true? It would be strictly online , would be comprised of four or five cam sessions that would involve a little role-play, and plenty of financial domination. If any beautiful dommes out there want to help make my fantasy come true and do me the honor of making me their money-slave, cuckold bitch, message me and I'll send you some more details _______________________________ 4/11/2014 11:16:55 AM: Just want a woman who'll sit on my face and take my money; but I suppose that's too much to ask for :(

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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 3:53:23 PM   
booklover13


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Status: offline 		Funny thing:

I'm a submissive and I get men c-mailing me offering to give me money.

Go figure.

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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 11:02:13 PM   
Arturas


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and others will verbally berate you


Don't be skeered. I ain't skeered. Don't be intimidated. Don't be wrong though. If they berate you then they lack conviction and must rely on anger and insult. You win.

But, I do think you (the OP) are a little tiny bit mistaken on the lack of subs who will pay to be topped or to top from the bottom.


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RE: Financial - 7/11/2014 11:16:40 PM   
Arturas


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This is suppose to be a site for Dom/Domme and subs to find actual relationships.


I'm not sure exactly that is it's purpose but I do know it works for that. The site is flexible. It multi-tasks and does relationships, email and business contacts. This is it's strength.

It even does shows. Check out the video conference room(s). Years ago I had a fem submissive from Knoxville doing a little show for everyone, for free.

< Message edited by Arturas -- 7/11/2014 11:25:40 PM >

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RE: Financial - 7/16/2014 6:35:39 PM   
smokelover


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Status: offline 		The truth of the matter is that way more Domme profiles are asking for money or a tribute. So most of these guys think that is the only way they will get someone to respond to them. 90% of the profiles either ask for money, gifts, or a tribute. Which by the way is one of the things listed as a scammer to be reported. Further more, some of the profiles provide a yahoo account for them to get direct contact. When you add them to yahoo and speak to them. The first thing they want is a tribute. "To make sure you are serious". Do You really have to ask why these subs are offering money? You all claim to be intelligent yet You can't see the nose on Your faces.

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RE: Financial - 7/16/2014 10:40:17 PM   
ThePrincessKali


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ORIGINAL: smokelover

The truth of the matter is that way more Domme profiles are asking for money or a tribute. So most of these guys think that is the only way they will get someone to respond to them. 90% of the profiles either ask for money, gifts, or a tribute. Which by the way is one of the things listed as a scammer to be reported. Further more, some of the profiles provide a yahoo account for them to get direct contact. When you add them to yahoo and speak to them. The first thing they want is a tribute. "To make sure you are serious". Do You really have to ask why these subs are offering money? You all claim to be intelligent yet You can't see the nose on Your faces.


So if you aren't into financial domination but you're messaging women who identify themselves as Financial Domme's on yahoo? Why? IMO the only people who get so upset about Financial Domination are sub men who want Dommes to be their fetish delivery system without any benefit to them. Why do you care what other people do? There are many fetishes I wouldn't try if you paid me a million dollars but I don't sit and complain about them bc what consensusal adults do amongst themselves has no bearing on my life.

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RE: Financial - 7/16/2014 10:49:26 PM   
DarkSteven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: smokelover

The truth of the matter is that way more Domme profiles are asking for money or a tribute. So most of these guys think that is the only way they will get someone to respond to them. 90% of the profiles either ask for money, gifts, or a tribute. Which by the way is one of the things listed as a scammer to be reported. Further more, some of the profiles provide a yahoo account for them to get direct contact. When you add them to yahoo and speak to them. The first thing they want is a tribute. "To make sure you are serious". Do You really have to ask why these subs are offering money? You all claim to be intelligent yet You can't see the nose on Your faces.


Really?

You make a bunch of unsupported allegations and then draw conclusions from them and say we're unintelligent for not agreeing with you.

I dunno about the majority of Domme profiles asking for tributes. I'll take your word for that.

If men think that the only way they can get a response is to shell out, they're dumb as bricks. Saying that the majority demands it is a cop-out. As a male Dom, I find that the majority of profiles I see are unsuitable for me - men, lesbians, Dommes, women unable to relocate to Colorado. So I focus oin the remainder. If you do stuff you don't want to do rather than focus on the compatible women, that is your fault.

90% of Domme profiles ask for tribute - I doubt that number is anything but a made up number.

Asking for gifts is NOT reportable. Scamming is, but asking up front is not.

I have heard about the yahoo accounts, and many people here won't have anything to do with anyone listing a yahoo account.

Saying that subs offering money is due to the big bad Dommes is placing the blame where it doesn't belong. Whether you acknowledge it or not, the sub always has the option of NOT complying.




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RE: Financial - 7/16/2014 11:18:59 PM   
VideoAdminDelta


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Status: offline 		Well, seems my input here is needed. Asking for money or gifts is not a violation. It's acceptable, depending on how its done. Demanding money/tributes is not allowed on profiles at this time. Nor are wishlists. Sorry, ladies, Support has sent out enough letters that this should be apparent and not considered a secret. Demanding money before you will speak to someone will also gain you notice you may not desire on the profile side from administration. All we ask is that the profiles reflect a bit of class instead of the demanding financial gain as the only purpose of being here.

Financial domination is explanation itself. Going into detail is not needed. If a submissive does not understand what that means, send them a link or your own explanation. If that fetish is not your own, politely decline, or just block.

From the Support side of this issue, it is a huge fetish. These women are gaining something from this or they would not keep coming. We are not trying to get rid of the financial kink. It is here to stay.

I would also like to take this time to remind people that messages can also be reported. And these women get some very vile, nasty messages. They are not over looked. They are addressed as well.

Why upset yourselves over a fetish you do not like, you do not approve of, or you find disgusting. I am sure there are many more fetishes that you may feel that way about, but others enjoy. Berating someone's kink can be viewed as a violation itself.

Let me add on top of this, the addition of certain other information, email addresses, phone numbers, links to personal or profiessional web sites with price lists, price lists themselves, just to name a few are also a violation. This is all spelled out in the Terms of Service on the profile side. To find that, click on the home page, look to the bottom. You will find the ToS link there. If you have questions regarding that information, contact me directly.

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RE: Financial - 8/13/2014 5:28:51 PM   
CharleeWrites


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Status: offline 		Who are you to judge? I know and have had experiences with tons of men who were into being financially dominated. The outcome was satisfaction and happiness on both our ends. Money is power, and therefor in the most basic form, the relinquishing of money is the relinquishing of power. The relinquishing of power to another is, by definition, the most distilled form of submission. it is a way to submit in a real, tangible way over long distance. It also gives many men purpose; toiling away at a job they hate becomes bearable when they start to see it as something that they endure so that they can pamper their goddess. When they see themselves as worthless, it gives them a touchstone to be able to find worth in; their toils and struggles are for a purpose greater than themselves. Just because it may not be your kink, that does not mean that many do not enjoy it with true fulfillment in the arrangement by both parties.

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RE: Financial - 8/13/2014 6:04:06 PM   
RockaRolla


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Status: offline 		So wait, something can only count as a "real" fetish if it's desired by a submissive?

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RE: Financial - 8/13/2014 6:15:42 PM   
BecomingV


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Status: offline 		The OP appears to be vanilla-minded and not yet aware of what is going on with a financial kink (a form of power exchange).

If you go to the BDSM discussions, at the top, you'll see a thread started by Resident Sadist called, "BDSM Books." That's a great place to start learning more. While I'm not sure about books on the financial kink, specifically, I do know that many of the books listed do help newbies with the language and the culture, of BDSM. The tone of the OP does show some ignorance in regard to how "respectful towards others" looks and sounds, here.

Some Dominants, male or female, take control of their submissive's finances. Some Dominants don't.

However, while a Domme may say that she has an interest in fattening her wallet by taking the submissive's earnings, money or property (house, car, etc...), a male Dominant who has an interest in fattening his wallet by taking the submissive's earnings, money or property (house, car, etc...), he is more likely to wait to mention it as one of his hard limits. Some men don't feel they have control if the submissive has the proverbial "FU" money.

So, if you take a hard look at D/s and financial expansion, you'll see that money is changing hands regularly. Who pays for dates? Travel? Toys? Whose relationship increased one person's financial resources at the expense (time OR money OR gifts) of the other person?

I feel like I've been repeating this a lot, lately, but okay...

The financial gain of a Dominant is about a personal preference. Both male and female dominants MAY choose to take money from their submissives, whether that be for a "once only" scene, OR in a long-term relationship.

ETA - Some submissives think that when the Dominant accepts their money, that the Dominant is charging them. Some submissives think that when the Dominant accepts their money, that the Dominant is taking charge.

Usually, the condemnation of this practice is directed towards female Dominants and male submissives. But, that's just sexist BS. Just look around your local community - male Doms are getting LOTS of money from being in a relationship with a submissive - it's simply not spoken of.

As other posters have said, what is important is that you know what your own interest is, and communicate it clearly, with others.

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RE: Financial - 8/13/2014 6:20:18 PM   
thishereboi


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Status: offline 		I just did a search and there are male subs out there who state in their profile that they are looking for financial. Now it's possible that you just don't know how to do a search but it's also possible that you are talking out of your ass. Either way there is an easy solution. Don't look at the ones who mention money. This isn't rocket science.

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RE: Financial - 8/13/2014 6:27:27 PM   
thishereboi


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quote:

ORIGINAL: smokelover

The truth of the matter is that way more Domme profiles are asking for money or a tribute. So most of these guys think that is the only way they will get someone to respond to them. 90% of the profiles either ask for money, gifts, or a tribute. Which by the way is one of the things listed as a scammer to be reported. Further more, some of the profiles provide a yahoo account for them to get direct contact. When you add them to yahoo and speak to them. The first thing they want is a tribute. "To make sure you are serious". Do You really have to ask why these subs are offering money? You all claim to be intelligent yet You can't see the nose on Your faces.



The truth of the matter is once a week some guy starts a thread pissing and moaning about fin dommes. There are literally 100's of threads explaining why it's a valid kink yet the message doesn't seem to get through. This has been going on for almost 10 years that I have been on here. At this point I would have to assume that owners don't have a problem with it and are not going to change things anytime soon. And I have to admit, I don't blame them. There are a lot of fetishes out there that you are not going to consider real but it's not up to you to determine if they are real for someone else. If you don't want anything to do with it, then by all means hang out with those who also don't want anything to do with it. Just don't expect everyone else to play the same way.

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RE: Financial - 8/13/2014 6:29:29 PM   
Moderator3


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There will be fewer in the days to come.

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