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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/11/2014 11:37:27 PM

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I do. I vote the person. I think many do also, could be wrong, but I think that is right.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 4:41:47 AM

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Mississippi is not a closed primary. Do not make shit up. And as I've already pointed out Republicans already did screw with Democratic primaries and when we complained we were told in no uncertain terms to shut up. So it's Republicans turn now. the Cochran campaign broke no laws and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law.

You're lying. Again.

McDaniel's complaint lies in the truth that you can not vote in a party run off if you voted in the other party's primary. So, if you voted in the previous D primary, you can't vote in the R run off. Those votes are invalidated, and that's where McDaniel's team is looking.

The McDaniels camp claims they already have over 8k of questionable votes, with many of those cast by voters not eligible to participate. The margin of Cochran's victory was under 8k.

This may not be over yet.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 5:03:18 AM

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Mississippi is not a closed primary. Do not make shit up. And as I've already pointed out Republicans already did screw with Democratic primaries and when we complained we were told in no uncertain terms to shut up. So it's Republicans turn now. the Cochran campaign broke no laws and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law.

You're lying. Again.

McDaniel's complaint lies in the truth that you can not vote in a party run off if you voted in the other party's primary. So, if you voted in the previous D primary, you can't vote in the R run off. Those votes are invalidated, and that's where McDaniel's team is looking.

The McDaniels camp claims they already have over 8k of questionable votes, with many of those cast by voters not eligible to participate. The margin of Cochran's victory was under 8k.

This may not be over yet.

No. I did not lie. Mississippi is an open primary state. You can look it up. Yes. There is a claim, not yet proven BTW, by the sore loser that people voted in the earlier primary voted in the runoff which is illegal but that was not the point I was answering.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 5:11:03 AM

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Mississippi is not a closed primary. Do not make shit up. And as I've already pointed out Republicans already did screw with Democratic primaries and when we complained we were told in no uncertain terms to shut up. So it's Republicans turn now. the Cochran campaign broke no laws and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law.

You're lying. Again.
McDaniel's complaint lies in the truth that you can not vote in a party run off if you voted in the other party's primary. So, if you voted in the previous D primary, you can't vote in the R run off. Those votes are invalidated, and that's where McDaniel's team is looking.
The McDaniels camp claims they already have over 8k of questionable votes, with many of those cast by voters not eligible to participate. The margin of Cochran's victory was under 8k.
This may not be over yet.

No. I did not lie. Mississippi is an open primary state. You can look it up. Yes. There is a claim, not yet proven BTW, by the sore loser that people voted in the earlier primary voted in the runoff which is illegal but that was not the point I was answering.

We aren't discussing the primary, though, Ken. We are discussing the runoff. There are different rules.

"and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law."

Wasn't that you that wrote that?

"There is a claim, not yet proven BTW..."

Which is acknowledged by my comment, "[t]his may not be over yet." My claim that it might not be over, also leaves open the possibility that it is over.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 7:08:09 AM

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Mississippi is not a closed primary. Do not make shit up. And as I've already pointed out Republicans already did screw with Democratic primaries and when we complained we were told in no uncertain terms to shut up. So it's Republicans turn now. the Cochran campaign broke no laws and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law.

You're lying. Again.

McDaniel's complaint lies in the truth that you can not vote in a party run off if you voted in the other party's primary. So, if you voted in the previous D primary, you can't vote in the R run off. Those votes are invalidated, and that's where McDaniel's team is looking.

The McDaniels camp claims they already have over 8k of questionable votes, with many of those cast by voters not eligible to participate. The margin of Cochran's victory was under 8k.

This may not be over yet.

But you have to PROVE guilty in this case. Those that voted could have voted for the Democrat, but perhaps liked the candidate. SO they voted in the contest between "a known commodity" and "a group that supports the 'values' of the Klu Klux Klan". Blacks in The South have a VERY long and good memory of how 'modern' era Tea Partiers treated them years and decades ago. Its just karma in action!

So the black voters have something they want now: A decent race between a Democratic contender and the 'old warhorse' from the Republican Party to be challenged. America won out in this case. McDaniels? Well, everyone has seen what kind of a 'winner' he would have been now that he has lost. In my view, the Tea Party in America embraces bigotry towards all non-white Americans. And the Tea Partiers in Congress right now have not accomplished anything in the last two years. The two least productive years (for Congress) of America's 238 years of existence. So it could be argued, that those citizens in that stated want action rather than inaction and saw the Tea Party as part of the problem in Congress rather than the solution.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 7:56:11 AM

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Mississippi is not a closed primary. Do not make shit up. And as I've already pointed out Republicans already did screw with Democratic primaries and when we complained we were told in no uncertain terms to shut up. So it's Republicans turn now. the Cochran campaign broke no laws and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law.

You're lying. Again.
McDaniel's complaint lies in the truth that you can not vote in a party run off if you voted in the other party's primary. So, if you voted in the previous D primary, you can't vote in the R run off. Those votes are invalidated, and that's where McDaniel's team is looking.
The McDaniels camp claims they already have over 8k of questionable votes, with many of those cast by voters not eligible to participate. The margin of Cochran's victory was under 8k.
This may not be over yet.

But you have to PROVE guilty in this case. Those that voted could have voted for the Democrat, but perhaps liked the candidate. SO they voted in the contest between "a known commodity" and "a group that supports the 'values' of the Klu Klux Klan". Blacks in The South have a VERY long and good memory of how 'modern' era Tea Partiers treated them years and decades ago. Its just karma in action!
So the black voters have something they want now: A decent race between a Democratic contender and the 'old warhorse' from the Republican Party to be challenged. America won out in this case. McDaniels? Well, everyone has seen what kind of a 'winner' he would have been now that he has lost. In my view, the Tea Party in America embraces bigotry towards all non-white Americans. And the Tea Partiers in Congress right now have not accomplished anything in the last two years. The two least productive years (for Congress) of America's 238 years of existence. So it could be argued, that those citizens in that stated want action rather than inaction and saw the Tea Party as part of the problem in Congress rather than the solution.

The only thing that might (might, Ken, might) change the results of the runoff election, is if McDaniel's group can show that enough votes were cast improperly (might only have to show they are questionable, not sure of their election laws regarding this), then there will be another election.

There is no claim that a Democrat can't vote for the Republican candidate in a primary. There is a claim (based on Mississippi's election laws) that a person that voted in the Democrat primary can't vote in a Republican runoff election in that same year.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 8:40:16 AM

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Not sure how you are gonna do that (show improperly cast votes) in that it is a secret ballot.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 9:51:56 AM

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Mississippi is not a closed primary. Do not make shit up. And as I've already pointed out Republicans already did screw with Democratic primaries and when we complained we were told in no uncertain terms to shut up. So it's Republicans turn now. the Cochran campaign broke no laws and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law.

You're lying. Again.
McDaniel's complaint lies in the truth that you can not vote in a party run off if you voted in the other party's primary. So, if you voted in the previous D primary, you can't vote in the R run off. Those votes are invalidated, and that's where McDaniel's team is looking.
The McDaniels camp claims they already have over 8k of questionable votes, with many of those cast by voters not eligible to participate. The margin of Cochran's victory was under 8k.
This may not be over yet.

No. I did not lie. Mississippi is an open primary state. You can look it up. Yes. There is a claim, not yet proven BTW, by the sore loser that people voted in the earlier primary voted in the runoff which is illegal but that was not the point I was answering.

We aren't discussing the primary, though, Ken. We are discussing the runoff. There are different rules.

"and the voters who voted for him broke no enforceable law."

Wasn't that you that wrote that?

"There is a claim, not yet proven BTW..."

Which is acknowledged by my comment, "[t]his may not be over yet." My claim that it might not be over, also leaves open the possibility that it is over.

Until that is proven and it isn't then no voters broken the law. And technically the poll workers were supposed to not even let them vote so the fault would lie with the poll workers.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/12/2014 10:48:52 AM

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Until that is proven and it isn't then no voters broken the law. And technically the poll workers were supposed to not even let them vote so the fault would lie with the poll workers.

"This may not be over yet."

If the controls are not in place for the poll workers to prevent ineligible voters from voting, who is to blame then?

I look forward to your consistent use of placing blame like that.

The recession? The Federal Reserve.

Corporations still hiring illegals? Not the fault of the Corporation. There are laws against it, so it's government's fault.

Dipshit blows several people away? Not his fault. There are laws against it. Apparently, the fault lies with the police, law enforcement and government.

Bernie Madoff? Not his fault. The SEC's fault. Looks like they jailed the wrong person, eh?

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/13/2014 1:40:16 PM

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The great thing about America ballots are still secret so anyone trying to enforce this law can go get fucked.

Of course you can't see the problem with Dem voters deciding the Republican primaries

I never had faith in you

Of course when Limbaugh was encouraging Republicans to vote in the D primaries to try to defeat Hillary some time ago, that was OK right?

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/13/2014 3:15:13 PM

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Crossing party lines may be the left's (compromising's) only hope for some seats. At least by this...it seems like it.

Here

Cochran the repub incumbent defeated McDaniels, the Tea Party backed state Sen. for the Miss. senate seat's repub party runoff.

I wonder of these same voters will turnout for the election on Nov. ? If they do, Cochran could be in trouble.

Yeah. It could happen. You say they might vote a senior Senator out because they are black?

No, they might vote for the dem in the general election.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/18/2014 11:15:33 AM

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You know, I think the black dems are simply voting for someone who they trust rather than following some marching order from the DNC. This guys been in office for a long time. That means voters will cross party lines to keep him in office. This is a good thing not a bad thing.

If they never voted for him before what would cause you make such a stupid conclusion?

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/18/2014 11:18:24 AM

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The McDaniels camp claims they already have over 8k of questionable votes, with many of those cast by voters not eligible to participate. The margin of Cochran's victory was under 8k.

So if they claimed that they only had 6000 votes to challange they would be laughed out of town just like we laugh at your ignorant musings.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/18/2014 11:21:40 AM

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Which is acknowledged by my comment, "[t]his may not be over yet." My claim that it might not be over, also leaves open the possibility that it is over.

Which once again reiterates the point that you have yet to have an original thought or stake out a position without waffeling.

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RE: Mississippi blacks defeat Tea Party candidate - 7/18/2014 11:27:06 AM

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Corporations still hiring illegals? Not the fault of the Corporation. There are laws against it, so it's government's fault.

Once again you post up the most stupid shit I have ever seen. There is a law against anyone hireing someone who has crossed the boarder illegally. You have been made aware of it more than once. For you to continue with this obnoxious ignorance is foolhardy. But what can one expect from a fool?

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