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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/28/2014 6:56:33 PM   
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thompson. It's just that I want to help you look less plebeian by getting it wrong, that's all.

You would probably have better luck putting lipstick on a pig.


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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/28/2014 7:05:14 PM   
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On the one hand there's a well thought out, well evidenced theory on the other as assertion about how vegetation could exist before the sun and before the existence of the carbon necessary for the existence of vegetation. From my point of view that doesn't make for a mystery, the winner of these answers is terribly straight forward. That you haven't reached the same conclusion, well isn't that exactly what a "difficulty distinguishing fact from fiction" would look like?

Do you have any links so that I, and others, might take a look-see?


Though not a replacement for a science education I'm inclined to point to http://www.talkorigins.org/ as the most useful source for this sort of discussion. I'd also point to Cosmos http://www.hulu.com/search?q=Cosmos%3A+A+Spacetime+Odyssey as an accessible well done introduction to this subject matter. If memory serves "Sisters of the Sun" has a lot to do with what we're talking about.

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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/28/2014 10:17:33 PM   
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Do you have any links so that I, and others, might take a look-see?

Though not a replacement for a science education I'm inclined to point to http://www.talkorigins.org/ as the most useful source for this sort of discussion. I'd also point to Cosmos http://www.hulu.com/search?q=Cosmos%3A+A+Spacetime+Odyssey as an accessible well done introduction to this subject matter. If memory serves "Sisters of the Sun" has a lot to do with what we're talking about.

TalkOrigins has an archive I'll have to check out when I have the time (it's too late at night now for me), but I don't watch Hulu programming.
Thank you.

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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/29/2014 4:36:30 AM   
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TalkOrigins has an archive I'll have to check out when I have the time (it's too late at night now for me), but I don't watch Hulu programming.
Thank you.


It's on fox so if you have on demand or whatever direct tv's equivalent you can still check it out.

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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/29/2014 1:56:40 PM   
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A friend of mine from my old neighborhood died of lung cancer. Trying to make sense of it I experience religious and not atheistic sentiments.

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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/29/2014 2:56:35 PM   
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A friend of mine from my old neighborhood died of lung cancer. Trying to make sense of it I experience religious and not atheistic sentiments.

Oh, sorry to hear your elderly neighbor passed, the one you were so good to in the hospital in his last days (if you don't mind my saying).

Love and compassion know no bounds. ♥

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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/29/2014 3:05:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/18/researchers-children-exposed-to-religion-have-difficulty-distinguishing-fact-from-fiction/

I found this article about how children exposed to religious indoctrination don't possess the same skepticism as non religious children and as such have more trouble determining reality from fantasy.


Having been married at one time to a fundamentalist (whose parents were even more so), I'd have to agree to this to a degree but, I also was raised with some level of same and....I grew out of it. I found truth where it lay.

Truth.

It's a beautiful thing.

Doesn't mean you don't believe in God/Jesus/whatever....it simply means you ask valid questions and then, listen (attentively) to the answers.

And make up your own mind.

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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/29/2014 5:48:10 PM   
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A friend of mine from my old neighborhood died of lung cancer. Trying to make sense of it I experience religious and not atheistic sentiments.


Sorry to hear about your friend. As I've said before atheism is simply a lack of belief in gods so not helpful for the stuff you were talking about earlier: "a sense of belonging, meaning, and a way to process death". However, it is entirely possible to find all of those things within a non-supernatural model of reality. Furthermore the non religious including myself (and I think Zonie brought this up earlier in the thread) who used to be Christian will overwhelmingly tell you that comparing the two, the non religious way is better.

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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/29/2014 5:51:11 PM   
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Furthermore the non religious including myself ... who used to be Christian will overwhelmingly tell you that comparing the two, the non religious way is better.

At the drop of a hat.

K.


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RE: Children exposed to religion have difficulty distin... - 7/29/2014 6:02:30 PM   
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Having been married at one time to a fundamentalist (whose parents were even more so), I'd have to agree to this to a degree but, I also was raised with some level of same and....I grew out of it. I found truth where it lay.

Nobodies saying it's an impossible affliction to overcome, heck even one of the Phelps made it out.


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Truth.

It's a beautiful thing.

Doesn't mean you don't believe in God/Jesus/whatever....it simply means you ask valid questions and then, listen (attentively) to the answers.

And make up your own mind.

This reminds me of one of Gods tweets:

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Science is true whether or not you believe it, but religion is true whether or not it’s true.


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