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MauiDreams -> RE: A comprehensive survey of what femdom really means (I think) (7/24/2014 6:35:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

The bottom line is: who is going to write such stuff, and turn it into films, if it's not people like you? Or is this a case of "Hey, let's us gals wait for yet another man to do this, and screw it up, because they're good at screwing up such things - while we complain, because we're good at complaining.'?



Oh for the love of all that is holy, this is getting fucking tedious. There are LOTS of examples out there of the sort of erotica that women enjoy and it's hardly our fault that men don't pay any attention to it. Women are hardly "waiting for men to do it" we're doing it ourselves (as much as we can considering how few women have the financial and societal backing that men do) as demonstrated by the many women of the younger generations who are writing, producing and filming what they personally find hot. We don't exist to police how men live their lives and it's not our fault if men allow themselves to get swept up in a fantasy that can not be obtained. And if you seriously think that women complain about the behaviours of men which we don't happen to like, more than men do the same about women then you must be living with blinders on.



FieryOpal -> RE: A comprehensive survey of what femdom really means (I think) (7/24/2014 7:17:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Galacia

You are incapable of listening, understanding, and learning.

Pot, meet kettle.

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ORIGINAL: Galacia

The inherently closed-minded ignorant Femdom bigotry espoused in this thread is far too entrenched for me to sway anyway.

You ask for opinions, you present a PoV so narrow that tunnel vision would be panoramic in comparison,
you insult a good many of the posters who have replied on this thread,
you harp on racism as if racism has one iota of relevancy to this topic,
you keep talking about FemDoms being from Mars as if you yourself are grounded in an earthly reality,
you keep circling back to porn links that I sure as hell am never going to click onto (because I don't need to see shit that I can't unsee)
you evidently only want feedback geared to the mechanics of an how to replicate authentic FemDom scenes with accompanying props,
yet you have closed your ears and your mind to what authentic FemDom interactions and dynamics are
(which is what we have been trying in vain to explain to you).

Have you ever picked up a book? There's a BDSM Book List sticky at the top of this very forum: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm
If all you wanted to do was to conduct a poll, then you should have designed one and posted as such, about Toys & Clothing, because "What 'stuff' goes on" per your list requires individualized responses and encompasses a huge amount of narrative. As MauiDreams has been telling you, we all do our own thing differently, because real life isn't scripted.

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ORIGINAL: Galacia

I had asked, essentially what Femdom acts consist of, e.g.,
a) What "stuff "goes on
b) What "toys" are used
c) What "clothes" are worn

You are looking for cookie-cutter responses, and you're not going to get them.

None of us works for you. If you asked a question at work as lame as this "comprehensive survey" of yours...
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ORIGINAL: Galacia

I'd be fired in less time than has transpired in this thread ... for being so ignorant and closed minded as to not even [have taken under serious consideration the feedback] provided.

If nobody even looks at [the feedback I have received], we're not having a discussion; we're just devolving to what irks Femdommes. (which [would be the belligerent attitude of the OP])
[Brackets mine]
OP, you were doing good there for a short while, until you started filibustering as if this were your own private forum to vent your frustrations.



AAkasha -> RE: A comprehensive survey of what femdom really means (I think) (7/24/2014 9:18:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I've frequently thought, 'What is there, apart from "Punish Me"?' One grainy old foreign language film, with a *very* young man and a clearly older woman. There's bugger all out there, Akasha, that gets to the nitty gritty of femdom relationships and gives the background to the feelings and the lust and the sex of it all.

The bottom line is: who is going to write such stuff, and turn it into films, if it's not people like you? Or is this a case of "Hey, let's us gals wait for yet another man to do this, and screw it up, because they're good at screwing up such things - while we complain, because we're good at complaining.'?



I am absolutely 100% satisfied watching gay porn for my bondage fix. I watch a lot of it. There's a LOT of great bondage smut with the focus on male bottoms if I want the female version of "male porn" - that also answers your question about me liking pictures of guys tied up. Hell yes. Eye candy. It just excites me. I am a visual woman. But male porn (m/m bondage porn) is just that. Porn. It's amusement, fantasy. I don't compare it to reality - at all. Ever.

So I don't wonder and woe about the lack of quality femdom erotica in film - there are some fun kinky undertones in "Bull Durham." I have my INXS video for "taste it" ready to go at any time. Every now and then a mainstream TV show brings on a dommish character and it's interesting, but they often muck it up by making her nuts or unstable. I smirk at the goofy representations of a dominatrix in just about every bad campy college comedy film.

I'm not sad that there's not enough femdom porn out there. If I get horny to see men helpless I go look at male bondage porn.

Akasha



PeonForHer -> RE: A comprehensive survey of what femdom really means (I think) (7/24/2014 10:14:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MauiDreams
There are LOTS of examples out there of the sort of erotica that women enjoy and it's hardly our fault that men don't pay any attention to it.


I've asked for examples, MD, on this thread, but have received no answer. Other than 'Punish Me' (which I've seen) - what is there? I have no doubt it exists but, let's face it, it's pretty thin on the ground, isn't it?



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: A comprehensive survey of what femdom really means (I think) (7/25/2014 12:48:02 AM)

OK OK... Let's get to the bottom of this once and for all.
And I'll try to make the answers as simple as possible for you! [:D]


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ORIGINAL: Galacia
This Femdom thread has a constant propensity to turn into whatever it is that irks Femdommes!

Ummmm... Nope.

This thread has a preponsity to answer your question which YOU choose to ignore. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Galacia
So, sure, I can tell you right now there are at least two things that irk Femdommes:
1. Relationships
2. Unrealistic porn

1. Some findommes actually like relationships; some don't.
2. All porn is unrealistic. Some like it; some don't. It's not confined to findommes.

Broad brush sweeping statements are invariably wrong.

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ORIGINAL: Galacia
Therefore, perhaps, it's only natural that this thread was doomed from the start, to turn into Femdommes telling the OP that he's not going to learn anything about relationships from watching Femdom porn, and, that Femdom porn is unrealistic.

It's what bothers Femdommes, who, being from Mars, make every thread that has the word Femdom in it, about what they want the thread to be about (which is their right).

While I agree this thread has nothing whatsoever to do with relationships, I'm partly to blame for allowing the Femdommes to bring porn realism into the picture (as I specifically had asked about realism of the whatever-you-call-it style Femdom porn).

Well... I'm not a femdomme but my answers match those from femdommes who have answered you.
That, in itself, should tell you something.

Are you listening???
Are you thinking with your big head???

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ORIGINAL: Galacia
Therefore, since, I'm not from Mars, and since I am the culprit who specifically asked about realism, maybe it's finally time I asked the question correctly (as if I was from Mars)!

So, lets ask the same question, using Mars-speak from the start, by assuming that all Femdom porn is UN-realistic!

I just ran a search in a single porn accumulator engine for... <snip>

There you go again.... PORN!!! [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Galacia
"porn video femdom goddess worship", and now I'd like to ask the audience for help, but I'm going to use the language of Mars to ask this next question:

With respect to Femdom:
a) Stuff done
b) Toys used
c) Clothing worn

a) Whatever takes the fancy of whoever is playing the scene. Everyone will have different ideas at different times.
b) Whatever they have to hand and whatever they fancy playing with at the time.
c) Whatever they happen to want to wear depending on the mood and scene.

That's your main questions answered directly.

Basically, what you are asking for is akin to "How long is a piece of string??".
And the answer is: How long do you want it to be?? [:D]
It really is as simple as that.

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ORIGINAL: Galacia
Now, speaking from Mars ...
Which of these related porn videos is most UN-realistic <snip>

All porn and all completely irrelevant to your questions.



CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: A comprehensive survey of what femdom really means (I think) (7/25/2014 4:26:03 PM)

This is likely to be my last post in this thread. I'm replying to your post #91 that had a list of links ending in this one (see below), that I'm going to comment on.

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10-minute porn video titled Worshiping wife's cunt (naked guy on knees obediently licking woman on couch wearing a blouse & skirt and watching TV where man licks her feet in the end this time)


I don't see any worship going on. A guy who likes the taste of pussy and is simply going down on his wife while she's sitting on the couch. No evidence of any D/s relationship going on. Also, his face is planted in her crotch; IMHO, there is no way to observe any technique he's using.

This is just...vanilla sex. She didn't even call him over to give service when he was planning on going out with the boys or had other plans. The fun part would have been the look on his face, her changing his plans for him on the spur of the moment, her telling him that he's just going to have to be late and then direct him into doing whatever and however, yanno? The phone ringing, showing the guys on the other end already at the bowling alley or at a bar shooting darts or playing pool, wanting to speak with her hubby. Nobody answers the phone, instead she grabs a fist full of his hair so he can't move away. The caller ID confirms it's his buddies, she lets her hubby know this and then turns off the ringer.[:D] The poor guy has a boner (after she's had several orgasms), hopes to make use of it...but she reminds him that his friends are waiting, briefly fondles his jeans clad bulge and tells him not to be late coming back home.

Those other links in that post either weren't available, or showed up as a patch of black that never loaded.



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