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DaddySatyr -> From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 11:34:44 AM)
Some people say such stupid things that it is hard to take them seriously. Case in point: quote: During a floor speech on Wednesday night, Texas Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee voiced her opposition to the House Republican lawsuit against President Barack Obama and said that Democrats had never moved to impeach former President George W. Bush when he was in office. “A historical fact that President Bush pushed this nation into a war that had little to do with apprehending terrorists,” Jackson Lee said. “We did not seek an impeachment of President Bush, because as an executive, he had his authority. President Obama has the authority.” Of course that's all well and good and it sounds *really* nice but ... [image]local://upfiles/1271250/DCA7A434D26A48E6A6FA1A2F7FA245C5.jpg[/image] A lie or a memory that's just that bad? Or, is it a case of: "My heart was in the right place so please, over-look this"? Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me? Edited to place photo upload in the desired spot.

Musicmystery -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 1:28:39 PM)
I think she's referring to going to war, vs. lying and presenting false evidence to get us into war. But point taken. It was a time of rubber stamp Republicans and spineless Democrats. Bipartisan stupidity.

BamaD -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 1:33:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Some people say such stupid things that it is hard to take them seriously. Case in point: quote: During a floor speech on Wednesday night, Texas Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee voiced her opposition to the House Republican lawsuit against President Barack Obama and said that Democrats had never moved to impeach former President George W. Bush when he was in office. “A historical fact that President Bush pushed this nation into a war that had little to do with apprehending terrorists,” Jackson Lee said. “We did not seek an impeachment of President Bush, because as an executive, he had his authority. President Obama has the authority.” Of course that's all well and good and it sounds *really* nice but ... [image]local://upfiles/1271250/DCA7A434D26A48E6A6FA1A2F7FA245C5.jpg[/image] A lie or a memory that's just that bad? Or, is it a case of: "My heart was in the right place so please, over-look this"? Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me? Edited to place photo upload in the desired spot. Obviously if Jackson said it didn't happen the Congressional record is wrong. Doctored by Bush no doubt.

Musicmystery -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 2:16:32 PM)
Apparently you've got more than gun barrels stuck up your butt.

MrRodgers -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 2:25:49 PM)
Resolutions are 100%, a...waste of time and go on to reside in the cloud of political rhetorical vapor, they having no basis in law. Articles of impeachment are drawn up against every president and have only been voted on in committee and brought to the house floor...3 times. For Johnson, Nixon and Clinton. Both parties regularly show their spineless rectitude by creating such articles and except for those 3 times...never voting them out of committee. They either know they would never get the house votes or if they did the senate wouldn't remove and in either case...an act of stupendous political stupidity and hypocrisy. Technically Jackson is correct but neither has this house voted to impeach Obama. This lawsuit however is a new exercise in hypocrisy in the repubs sanctimonious, political piousness. Ironically if this lawsuit had any real legal merit, then the house would have legitimate grounds for impeachment and something upon which senate would have to face an up or down vote. However, the mere issuance of executive orders have never historically established a legal basis for impeachment and I suspect...never will.

Sanity -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 6:20:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Obviously if Jackson said it didn't happen the Congressional record is wrong. Doctored by Bush no doubt. Blame it on global warming

Lucylastic -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 6:37:11 PM)
H.Res. 1258 (110th): Impeaching George W. Bush, President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors. Introduced: Jun 10, 2008 (110th Congress, 2007–2009) Status: Died (Referred to Committee) in a previous session of Congress.... See Instead: H.Res. 1345 (same title) Referred to Committee — Jul 15, 2008 H.Res. 1345 (110th): Impeaching George W. Bush, President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors. Introduced: Jul 15, 2008 (110th Congress, 2007–2009) Status: Died (Referred to Committee) in a previous session of Congress This resolution was introduced on July 15, 2008, in a previous session of Congress, but was not enacted. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hres1345 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hres1258#related much easier to follow with facts

DaddySatyr -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 8:05:00 PM)
What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me?

joether -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 8:43:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Yeah when one Democrat does it, its wrong. When multitudes of Republican/Tea Party do it on a daily basis, you don't notice it at all. Based solely on the information present, yeah, she's full of shit. Just like all the Republican/Tea Partiers that have lied over all sorts of stuff. Should I bring up fact how Republican/Tea Partiers stated they would vote 'yea' on he ACA if the Democrats changed 'a few things' in the bill? And that when it came to a vote, AFTER, those changes were put in place, they voted 'nay'?

BamaD -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 8:46:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Yeah when one Democrat does it, its wrong. When multitudes of Republican/Tea Party do it on a daily basis, you don't notice it at all. Based solely on the information present, yeah, she's full of shit. Just like all the Republican/Tea Partiers that have lied over all sorts of stuff. Should I bring up fact how Republican/Tea Partiers stated they would vote 'yea' on he ACA if the Democrats changed 'a few things' in the bill? And that when it came to a vote, AFTER, those changes were put in place, they voted 'nay'? Should I point out that there was no such thing as the Tea Party at that time?

BamaD -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 8:49:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Yeah when one Democrat does it, its wrong. When multitudes of Republican/Tea Party do it on a daily basis, you don't notice it at all. Based solely on the information present, yeah, she's full of shit. Just like all the Republican/Tea Partiers that have lied over all sorts of stuff. Should I bring up fact how Republican/Tea Partiers stated they would vote 'yea' on he ACA if the Democrats changed 'a few things' in the bill? And that when it came to a vote, AFTER, those changes were put in place, they voted 'nay'? Don't you remember that Congress had to pass the bill in order to find out what was in it? How could they make changes when they didn't even bother with reading the bill?

DomKen -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 9:38:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Yeah when one Democrat does it, its wrong. When multitudes of Republican/Tea Party do it on a daily basis, you don't notice it at all. Based solely on the information present, yeah, she's full of shit. Just like all the Republican/Tea Partiers that have lied over all sorts of stuff. Should I bring up fact how Republican/Tea Partiers stated they would vote 'yea' on he ACA if the Democrats changed 'a few things' in the bill? And that when it came to a vote, AFTER, those changes were put in place, they voted 'nay'? Should I point out that there was no such thing as the Tea Party at that time? Yes there was. And while the caucus may not have formed yet many of the people who are in it now were in Congress then. And they did most certainly lie about supporting the ACA if they got certain concessions. I can post them saying so on youtube if you make me.

BamaD -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (7/31/2014 10:15:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Yeah when one Democrat does it, its wrong. When multitudes of Republican/Tea Party do it on a daily basis, you don't notice it at all. Based solely on the information present, yeah, she's full of shit. Just like all the Republican/Tea Partiers that have lied over all sorts of stuff. Should I bring up fact how Republican/Tea Partiers stated they would vote 'yea' on he ACA if the Democrats changed 'a few things' in the bill? And that when it came to a vote, AFTER, those changes were put in place, they voted 'nay'? Should I point out that there was no such thing as the Tea Party at that time? Yes there was. And while the caucus may not have formed yet many of the people who are in it now were in Congress then. And they did most certainly lie about supporting the ACA if they got certain concessions. I can post them saying so on youtube if you make me. There may have been people who where later supported by the "Tea Party" but it did not come into existence for two more years, largely a result of Obamacare. And remember The "we have to pass it to find out what is in it" comment? And we have to pass it there isn't time to read it? And the biggest objection was to the mandatory purchase of insurance which you will have to admit stayed in it, that was the killer. And no matter what you say Lee still lied.

DomKen -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (8/1/2014 2:43:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD There may have been people who where later supported by the "Tea Party" but it did not come into existence for two more years, largely a result of Obamacare. The dumbass "protest" that started the whole thing was April 2009. quote: And remember The "we have to pass it to find out what is in it" comment? And we have to pass it there isn't time to read it? nothing kept Republicans from reading the bill and seeing that they got what they wanted. quote: And the biggest objection was to the mandatory purchase of insurance which you will have to admit stayed in it, that was the killer. which was always a Heritage Foundation plan implemented by Romneycare and trumpeted as a success by conservatives right up to the day Obama suggested doing it. Please don't be such an utter hypocrite. quote: And no matter what you say Lee still lied. No idea who Lee is but you told a bunch of whoppers yourself right here.

DesideriScuri -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (8/1/2014 3:06:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD And no matter what you say Lee still lied. No idea who Lee is but you told a bunch of whoppers yourself right here. (Sheila Jackson Lee, from the OP)

Sanity -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (8/1/2014 5:52:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen which was always a Heritage Foundation plan implemented by Romneycare and trumpeted as a success by conservatives right up to the day Obama suggested doing it. Please don't be such an utter hypocrite. Partially true, which is pretty good for you But you conveniently left out some important details such as Parts of it, by SOME Republicans (no conservatives) at the state level, where it is somewhat manageable, repealable if it doesn't work, and even popular At the federal level it is a bureaucratic behemoth and already an unaffordable disaster (we were already far beyond broke) Everything Obama told us about it was a lie... Pelosi by her own admission didn't even read it before she passed it... Nothing says "Democrats are morons" quite like Obamacare

Musicmystery -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (8/1/2014 6:23:39 AM)
Nonetheless, flawed though it be (starting with the need for single payer instead), it's a step toward universal health care and the rapidly spiraling costs of health care for businesses. When the dust clears on the battle one day, Republicans will regret dubbing the ACA Obamacare, because he and the Democrats will get the credit forever, deserved or not, just as Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid will forever be associated with caring Democrats in the face of crippling illness and poverty. And leadership knows it. They just have no strategy moving forward, because they have no objectives they can state publicly.

Sanity -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (8/1/2014 8:08:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Nonetheless, flawed though it be (starting with the need for single payer instead), it's a step toward universal health care and the rapidly spiraling costs of health care for businesses. When the dust clears on the battle one day, Republicans will regret dubbing the ACA Obamacare, because he and the Democrats will get the credit forever, deserved or not, just as Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid will forever be associated with caring Democrats in the face of crippling illness and poverty. And leadership knows it. They just have no strategy moving forward, because they have no objectives they can state publicly. Pure bullshit and totally flawed logic By deliberately overextending government credit cards, leftists appear determined to bankrupt the government thus ensuring that the truly needy will face an Armageddon of sorts Politicians buying votes with taxpayer money never works out well Good policy, sound policy, means smaller limited government, weaning people from government dependence rather than promoting it, and empowering individuals rather than enslaving them with the lure of free government everything. [image]http://images.pop2world.com/w66/fedbears.jpg[/image] [image]http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Feed-The-Animals.jpg[/image]

thishereboi -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (8/1/2014 8:25:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me? Well yes she tried to rewrite history, but she leans to the left so that's ok because someone on the right did it first.

thishereboi -> RE: From the "The Republicans Do It, Too" File: (8/1/2014 8:26:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr What people are missing, here is the point. I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck about whether or not the articles of impeachment against King George II went anywhere. Everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows the articles went nowhere. The issue is Ms. Jackson-Lee trying to re-write history. She's full of shit but, she states it with authority and there's a segment of the population that will take her words as gospel because she has the "correct" letter after her name. Yeah when one Democrat does it, its wrong. When multitudes of Republican/Tea Party do it on a daily basis, you don't notice it at all. Based solely on the information present, yeah, she's full of shit. Just like all the Republican/Tea Partiers that have lied over all sorts of stuff. Should I bring up fact how Republican/Tea Partiers stated they would vote 'yea' on he ACA if the Democrats changed 'a few things' in the bill? And that when it came to a vote, AFTER, those changes were put in place, they voted 'nay'? Damn, I should have read your post before I replied. Then I could have used it as an example of what I was getting at. thanks for that.

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