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Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 6:52:56 PM   
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WASHINGTON — Conservatives in the House rebelled against their leadership on Thursday to scuttle an emergency spending measure that addressed the migrant crisis at the southern border, pushing the issue to a showdown on Friday as lawmakers prepared to leave for a five-week recess. The unexpected turmoil offered a coda to the dysfunction that has gripped the Capitol for much of the year.

What a bunch of assholes. Nothing but anarchists, Grinches, and complainers without solutions or constructive proposals.
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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 7:09:20 PM   
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What you are crying for is a dictatorship, which is very typical of myopic leftists such as yourself.

The conservatives in congress are functioning exactly as those who voted for them intended, and they're not "dysfunctional" at all.

If Barack were a leader at all perhaps he could lead the way a suitable compromise rather than play another round of golf and rag on the right like the petty tyrant wannabe that he is

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 7:18:46 PM   
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POLITICS More: Immigration Reform
The House GOP Border Plan Just Blew Up In Its Face


House Republican leadership abruptly postponed and then ultimately pulled a vote on its plan to deal with the crisis along the U.S.-Mexico border on Thursday, after a conservative revolt left leadership short of the votes needed to pass the bill.
Soon after House leaders pulled the bill, however, a 3 p.m. ET Republican conference meeting was scheduled in an apparent attempt to revive the bill. Members were advised that additional votes were still possible.

The original pulling of the bill served as a remarkable setback for House Speaker John Boehner and the incoming House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who had whipped support for the border bill.

This week, House conservatives revolted against the Republican-led border plan, which provides about $659 million in emergency spending for the border crisis through the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30.

The Republican dissent was led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the conservative freshman firebrand who has miffed House leadership before by meddling in the House's affairs (most notably, last year, ahead of the government shutdown).

Cruz has led a wing of conservatives who say any border legislation should include a provision to stop the expansion of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which shields hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants from deportation. Many of the immigrants who have been part of the recent influx coming over the border have been unaccompanied minors, but they are not eligible for the DACA program.

The conservative ire at the plan led Republican leaders to schedule two votes — one on the border bill and another on legislation that would bar President Barack Obama from delaying the deportation of young, undocumented immigrants. However, shortly after announcing the dual votes, the GOP leadership announced they were both cancelled. This indicates the conservative wing was not satisfied with the legislation to speed the deportation of young immigrants being voted on separately.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/house-gop-border-plan-vote-2014-7#ixzz396RO3Gc2

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 8:21:07 PM   
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What you are crying for is a dictatorship, which is very typical of myopic leftists such as yourself.

The conservatives in congress are functioning exactly as those who voted for them intended, and they're not "dysfunctional" at all.

If Barack were a leader at all perhaps he could lead the way a suitable compromise rather than play another round of golf and rag on the right like the petty tyrant wannabe that he is

Spin crazy man spin

The bill that was pulled was crafted by the House specifically to get enough Republican votes to pass. It was so bug fuck crazy it had no hope of passing in the Senate and still wasn't crazy enough to get 218 Republican votes in the House.

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 8:36:25 PM   
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WASHINGTON — Conservatives in the House rebelled against their leadership on Thursday to scuttle an emergency spending measure that addressed the migrant crisis at the southern border, pushing the issue to a showdown on Friday as lawmakers prepared to leave for a five-week recess. The unexpected turmoil offered a coda to the dysfunction that has gripped the Capitol for much of the year.

What a bunch of assholes. Nothing but anarchists, Grinches, and complainers without solutions or constructive proposals.


I just created another thread similar to this one without seeing this thread. Mine covers both the issues in the Senate and House bills that failed today. Failed by, you guessed it....the Republican/Tea 'Do Nothing Useful' Party.

Wish I could get paid $174K/year, awesome benefits, do absolutely nothing useful and blame the whole thing on someone else.

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 8:44:09 PM   
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What a laugh riot

This presidents approval numbers are nose diving over his amnesty / no borders push

Least popular president in modern times

These conservatives are pushing the popular consensus

Leftists are heading into an election wherein they are going to get their asses handed to them and have the Senate taken away

Then you will get the "do something" Congress that you have been whine and cry for







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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 9:08:35 PM   
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Would this be the same do-something Congress that did nothing but kiss Bush's ass for six years, and so got their asses handed to them in the 2006 election?

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 7/31/2014 9:28:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

What a laugh riot

This presidents approval numbers are nose diving over his amnesty / no borders push

Least popular president in modern times

These conservatives are pushing the popular consensus

Leftists are heading into an election wherein they are going to get their asses handed to them and have the Senate taken away

Then you will get the "do something" Congress that you have been whine and cry for


Least popular?
Are you unable to compare numbers?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
41.7
W's lowest
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx
25%

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 12:57:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

What a laugh riot

This presidents approval numbers are nose diving over his amnesty / no borders push

Least popular president in modern times

These conservatives are pushing the popular consensus

Leftists are heading into an election wherein they are going to get their asses handed to them and have the Senate taken away

Then you will get the "do something" Congress that you have been whine and cry for


Least popular?
Are you unable to compare numbers?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
41.7
W's lowest
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx
25%


Not only was there nothing higher than 38% from 10/06 on for Bush but since may of 13, the house approval had been 23-25%.

I just can't see how in the world the house stays in repub hands,

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 2:41:51 AM   
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I just can't see how in the world the house stays in repub hands,

Keep in mind that the public disapproval of Congress is not monolithic: the Dems despise the Radicals, and the Radicals despise the Dems. It doesn't mean anyone is going to have his constituancy turn on him all of a sudden. What will happen next election is what always happens: each side will double down on their team, and things will go along (or not) as always. The real story behind that statistic is that the country is effectively polarized beyond repair. This will end badly.

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 4:42:22 AM   
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and then we have THIS poll, by the same people you offer presumably as reputable pollsters

http://www.gallup.com/poll/171794/clinton-elder-bush-positively-rated-living-presidents.aspx?ref=more

this poll represent CURRENT numbers, as opposed to ones from over 4 years ago

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 5:30:05 AM   
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WASHINGTON — Conservatives in the House rebelled against their leadership on Thursday to scuttle an emergency spending measure that addressed the migrant crisis at the southern border, pushing the issue to a showdown on Friday as lawmakers prepared to leave for a five-week recess. The unexpected turmoil offered a coda to the dysfunction that has gripped the Capitol for much of the year.

What a bunch of assholes. Nothing but anarchists, Grinches, and complainers without solutions or constructive proposals.

Elected by . . . you.

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 5:32:25 AM   
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Yeah, that would be the one

All this despite 99% of the media acting as the propaganda arm of the DNC



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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 5:34:21 AM   
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Fox News is down to 1% of the media? Awesome!


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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 5:40:51 AM   
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Counting brainless TV shows, movies, college textbooks, magazines, I doubt its even that much

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 7:55:42 AM   
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Counting brainless TV shows, movies, college textbooks, magazines, I doubt its even that much



Yeah, there is a great deal of that shit on fox.

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 8:14:13 AM   
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Fox News is down to 1% of the media? Awesome!




I thought you were supposed to have had some sort of an education or something. How is it that you apparently believe that the media consists only of cable news...

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 8:19:03 AM   
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And what would your solution or constructive proposal be? Inquiring minds and all.

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 8:23:39 AM   
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Wish I could get paid $174K/year, awesome benefits, do absolutely nothing useful and blame the whole thing on someone else.

Why am I not fucking surprised?

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RE: Congressional Dysfunction 101 - 8/1/2014 10:47:12 AM   
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quote:

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Fox News is down to 1% of the media? Awesome!




I thought you were supposed to have had some sort of an education or something. How is it that you apparently believe that the media consists only of cable news...

There's no point explaining to someone of your poor reading comprehension.

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