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subrosaDom -> RE: Must have used a knife (8/7/2014 11:50:58 PM)
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten
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not intentionally misreading you said MOST.. it implies that with using the word most you mean:::
And you and Bama have both acted like the word was not present. It is pathetic.
Your words putty tat...
MOST victims of violent crime happens to people who seek it out.
That is saying that of the 1,214,462 violent crimes that happened in 2012 of those being 14,827 murders 84,376 forcible rapes 354,520 robberies and 760,739 aggravated assaults....
that MOST of those crime victims sought out, to be murdered, robbed, assulted, and raped... And that is simply just not true... Its not my fault you dont understand what the word most means, It does mean NOT all but it does imply that overwhelming majority.....
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/latest-crime-stats-released/latest-crime-stats-released
Actually it is true. Most violent crime happens to people in the drug trade or in other criminal enterprises. That is very well documented fact.
That is likely true. But the question is when someone to whom violent crime doesn't normally happen is assaulted, how can they defend themselves. Even though most violent crime happens to criminals, the absolute hard numbers of violent crime that happens to innocent people are still very, very high, even though the ratio of crime victim to non-crime victim is low. So it's not inconsequential. Most people don't die in a car accident in the US, but somewhere around 30,000 people still do (that's not meant to be an exact number). That's still a lot of people, many of whom are innocent (i.e., not DUI). Same idea here.
I don't want to distract from your point but what DK said is most likely not true. He first says most crime victims *seek out* violent crime. That statement is absurd on its face. Then he tries to couch it by saying most violent crime happens to those in the drug business. That may be a true statement on its own where as a drug entrepreneur puts himself into a violent type of environment but I'm sure the guy who got shot by the rival gangbanger didn't go seeking it out.
Not only that but the sentence that follows his original proclamation,
" So if you don't, (seek out crime) having a weapon on your person does nothing for your personal safety except increase the chance someone will try to rob you."
is so stupid I could hardly catch my breath between my bouts of hysterical laughter.
Maybe Ken could try to explain that one for the entertainment value.
I guess if you increase the chance that someone will rob you, it does something for your personal safety but only if you're packin heat and you're one of those types who goes out seeking violent crime.[8D]
To clarify, I was agreeing only with this: "Most violent crime happens to people in the drug trade or in other criminal enterprises." Not with the "seeker" statement at all.
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