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RE: Experienced sub submitting to an inexperienced Dom - 8/26/2014 4:01:51 PM   
ExiledTyrant


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Let's fix the topic so the context is more accurate:

Experienced bottom submitting to an inexperienced Top.

Carry on

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RE: Experienced sub submitting to an inexperienced Dom - 8/26/2014 8:12:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

Let's fix the topic so the context is more accurate:

Experienced bottom submitting to an inexperienced Top.

Carry on

Exiled


I mean right though?
OP- go back and read both my posts again- I'm living this. if you, or your friend, have questions, hit me up on the other side.

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RE: Experienced sub submitting to an inexperienced Dom - 8/26/2014 8:55:06 PM   
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I never considered myself in a tutor role.

I considered that my chemistry with someone would override any "experience" that I had.

It was never an issue.

To me, it's not your experience that matters, it's your desire.

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RE: Experienced sub submitting to an inexperienced Dom - 8/27/2014 11:14:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I never considered myself in a tutor role.

I considered that my chemistry with someone would override any "experience" that I had.

It was never an issue.

To me, it's not your experience that matters, it's your desire.
hello, you lovely creature, you! Hugs!!

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RE: Experienced sub submitting to an inexperienced Dom - 8/30/2014 1:41:18 PM   
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I think it is much more often a genuinely inherently submissive woman and men pretending to be dom or wanting some kinky sexy ( or indeed any sex if they're just out of a 20 year sexless marriage) who will say they will do anything just because they want to get you into bed and then want lessons in how to dominate. It is simply they are not dom.

Even if they are aged 18 with no experience but inherently dom they will be good and know what to do with a submissive woman. I don't think experience is essential but if someone is my age and never dominated then that is huge red flat - how could he not be so with every woman he's ever had if that is how he is made just as I have been submissive as long as I can remember and in all relationships?

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RE: Experienced sub submitting to an inexperienced Dom - 8/30/2014 3:42:24 PM   
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Okay, lemme clear up muh other post.

1. Anyone can Top. They may totally suck Satan's balls at it (yep, that goes either way)
2. Anyone can bottom. They may be soooo experienced they nap through all your boring shit, or scream bloody murder over the diabolical bunny flogger (not the Bannicula variety, that one is fukin scary)
3. You're either a sub or you're not. You can play sub, but if you're not you'll fool the people that don't know better.
4. You're either a Dom or your not... (^ same shit)

Now, let's clear up some shit that most people don't get or are confused about.

1. Being a Dom is nothing like being Oz the great and terrible. Dom's do what Dom's do, fuck everything else. Dom's indulge their proclivities, just as subs want to indulge theirs. A Dom is not going to rush out and master "this" because it will be so Uber at play space. A Dom is going to Master exactly what turns their crank and the victim will 99% of the time reap that reward in private
2. Being a Dom is like being the one, Neo, you just are, you were born that way, and the only real shit you're bringing to the dynamic is that deep primal predatory dominance that makes that (particular) /s turn to goo.

Now, let's look at the Top
1. Unlike some Doms ( I put some in there, but you can read it as most) Tops are driven. They are driven to do better, learn more, perform better, and be the Picasso of kinky things. Many Tops are driven to satiate their kinky needs, and some think that is what a real and true Dom will do.
2. In the world of kink, kinky pleasure, absolute mind blowing play experience the Top doesn't beat the Dom by a nose, the Top laps the Dom three times and wins by an entire length +3 laps.
3. There are exceptions to the rule... Our Diva of destruction being a fine example. Nevertheless, when you are looking for the goose that laid the golden flogger, you should be looking for a Top.

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Now we'll have a look at me. I'm not a Top. I can get schooled by the majority of the people in the kink world if I ever chose to poke my nose in things I don't understand. I am a Dom, a primal evil fucking prick that absolutely gives off a tangible energy to "some" /s's. When I get around an /s that is tuned into my D, Mother Teresa disappears and the whore of Babylon takes over. The /s knows, on an intuitive level that I can grab it, take it, keep it, and do whatever the hell I want to it and she is just going to grin and agree. To the proper /s I am a full dose of Stockholm syndrome in 15 minutes; the slut is mine and will do whatever I tell her to do, even honing her mind reading abilities just so she can please me more efficiently.

The down side of that is, I'm a Dom with a specific agenda that only does what I like to do. I do not get involved with /s's that need more than what I do, cuz I just ain't gunna do it. I will not Master a single tail for play. I'm pretty handy with a whip, but that is just for killing shit (yes, I've travelled and lived in some pretty freaky places). I am not, nor will I ever be the amazing Top that everyone wants to see. At the very best I am that weirdo that an /s just wants to spend 15 minutes with to see if all that shit I said above is true.

Jus sayin

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RE: Experienced sub submitting to an inexperienced Dom - 9/2/2014 10:36:05 AM   
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quote:

...I'm curious if there are others out there where the Dom has had a lot less experience than the sub....and its been a successful relationship.

...Does anyone think its possible for that to change...that maybe mental submission could grow and happen when the Dom learns more?


I really think your Original Post is asking for experienced answers to some very good questions. You really only have two very specific questions here...I have experience with both situations and offer these answers...

The first question can be answered by me with a "yes". I had two very experienced submissive women as I myself started out. In both cases, the women were attracted by my attitude and outlook rather than experience. In other words, they enjoyed a dominate sadist who took are of himself and could not care less if I was good at swinging a flogger or even owned one.

The second question is answered by me with a "No". The question suggests mental submission is related to experience in the Dom. I suggest otherwise. I suggest a Dom is born. His or her experience makes them better at expressing this dominance with technical toys but mental submission is captured from the first impression he makes on you using only his ability to lead you where you want to go, an ability inherent in him and not something that develops down the road.

< Message edited by Arturas -- 9/2/2014 10:59:47 AM >


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