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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/8/2014 6:17:19 PM   
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4 states and a foreign nation border Lake Erie. Which one do you suggest be the one to be empowered?

If you consider the entire Great Lakes basin it is a much larger number of states and even more of Canada. Every state cannot institute its own solution over its own small segment of each lake that clearly won't work.


States work together all the time, ken. They even work with Canada and Mexico...

The federal government was never meant to have the power to micromanage our lives

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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/8/2014 6:17:36 PM   
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get rid of the EPA!!!!!!!


Empower the states to handle their problems, where the leadership knows the people and the problems and is best suited to offer up and enforce practical solutions

While Adolf Hitler enjoyed total centralized federal control, we are not yet the Third Reich.

4 states and a foreign nation border Lake Erie. Which one do you suggest be the one to be empowered?

If you consider the entire Great Lakes basin it is a much larger number of states and even more of Canada. Every state cannot institute its own solution over its own small segment of each lake that clearly won't work.


Actual property rights solve the problem. Not that we're anywhere close to that. Agri runoff is actionable if you are harming my property. When you have a mix of private and government property as well as regulations vs. a more straightforward tort system, you get Rube Goldberg.


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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/8/2014 6:35:35 PM   
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4 states and a foreign nation border Lake Erie. Which one do you suggest be the one to be empowered?

If you consider the entire Great Lakes basin it is a much larger number of states and even more of Canada. Every state cannot institute its own solution over its own small segment of each lake that clearly won't work.


States work together all the time, ken. They even work with Canada and Mexico...

The federal government was never meant to have the power to micromanage our lives

The federal government was expressly setup to handle exactly this sort of thing. Why shouldn't it now do what the Founders meant for it to do?

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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/8/2014 6:37:42 PM   
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get rid of the EPA!!!!!!!


Empower the states to handle their problems, where the leadership knows the people and the problems and is best suited to offer up and enforce practical solutions

While Adolf Hitler enjoyed total centralized federal control, we are not yet the Third Reich.

4 states and a foreign nation border Lake Erie. Which one do you suggest be the one to be empowered?

If you consider the entire Great Lakes basin it is a much larger number of states and even more of Canada. Every state cannot institute its own solution over its own small segment of each lake that clearly won't work.


Actual property rights solve the problem. Not that we're anywhere close to that. Agri runoff is actionable if you are harming my property. When you have a mix of private and government property as well as regulations vs. a more straightforward tort system, you get Rube Goldberg.


No way in hell. Who do you sue? How many farmers allow runoff to feed into the Great Lakes basin? how would you ever get our legal system to attribute cost to each one? Then once they all appeal and fight the judgments it would be decades before action is taken when action needs to be taken now.

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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/8/2014 6:43:16 PM   
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get rid of the EPA!!!!!!!


Empower the states to handle their problems, where the leadership knows the people and the problems and is best suited to offer up and enforce practical solutions

While Adolf Hitler enjoyed total centralized federal control, we are not yet the Third Reich.

4 states and a foreign nation border Lake Erie. Which one do you suggest be the one to be empowered?

If you consider the entire Great Lakes basin it is a much larger number of states and even more of Canada. Every state cannot institute its own solution over its own small segment of each lake that clearly won't work.


Actual property rights solve the problem. Not that we're anywhere close to that. Agri runoff is actionable if you are harming my property. When you have a mix of private and government property as well as regulations vs. a more straightforward tort system, you get Rube Goldberg.


No way in hell. Who do you sue? How many farmers allow runoff to feed into the Great Lakes basin? how would you ever get our legal system to attribute cost to each one? Then once they all appeal and fight the judgments it would be decades before action is taken when action needs to be taken now.


Our legal system is FUBARed. It would be very difficult today, but it is the ideal solution to the problem. You'd have to get there through a series of transitional stages. .I own it, and I am responsible for what I put on any else's. You can certainly sue anyone and everyone responsible for runoff and it's up to the court to allocate liability. But with our current legal system, yes, it's a problem. You'd need legal reform in order to reflect real property rights, too.


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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/8/2014 7:35:33 PM   
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What has to be done is stopping the pollution at the source. This is otherwise known as "government intervention." Which anathema is worse, "active government" or a dead lake?

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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/9/2014 12:16:51 AM   
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What has to be done is stopping the pollution at the source. This is otherwise known as "government intervention." Which anathema is worse, "active government" or a dead lake?


We already have activist governments and a dead lake. It might be time to give unfettered property rights a shake.

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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/9/2014 6:19:44 AM   
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Aww isn't that cute, Lucy is pretending she is a republican and saying something really stupid to make people laugh. Kinda like they used to do with black face paint but without the paint. But since you are here, what is Canada doing about the problem? I mean besides sitting around and talking about how dumb the american right is?

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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/9/2014 6:26:35 AM   
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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/11/2014 4:10:43 PM   
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We already have activist governments and a dead lake. It might be time to give unfettered property rights a shake.


NO, otherwise remedial laws and regulations addressing the problem would be in place. The LAKE is suffering because of the free market and Laissez-faire economics.

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RE: What would the Republican Solution Be? - 8/11/2014 4:38:04 PM   
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We already have activist governments and a dead lake. It might be time to give unfettered property rights a shake.

NO, otherwise remedial laws and regulations addressing the problem would be in place. The LAKE is suffering because of the free market and Laissez-faire economics.


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Maybe we'll add that we're the locus of biomass-for-power research?




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