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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 8:23:15 AM

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He most certainly did wrong. Did you dismiss these witnesses?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/

You shouldn't have. That is the reason the rest of your cohorts have stopped defending that scumbag.

You quit defending your scumbag dk...

Could it have more to do with the topic getting old

Look up thread idiot. I posted this and you and your palls ignored it. No one wanted anything to do with it or Wilson anymore.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 8:27:03 AM

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Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 8:34:53 AM

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Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 10:33:31 AM

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Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

If it is so cut and dried why is the prosecutor having to use strong arm tactics on the grand jury? He has threatened to release the audio of the deliberations if he doesn't get an indictment. Not sure it is illegal, clearly it is unethical.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 12:34:45 PM

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Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

If it is so cut and dried why is the prosecutor having to use strong arm tactics on the grand jury? He has threatened to release the audio of the deliberations if he doesn't get an indictment. Not sure it is illegal, clearly it is unethical.

Not of the deliberations but of the testimony. Do try and get your facts straight.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-release-audio-brown-grand-jury-25568258

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 1:03:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

If it is so cut and dried why is the prosecutor having to use strong arm tactics on the grand jury? He has threatened to release the audio of the deliberations if he doesn't get an indictment. Not sure it is illegal, clearly it is unethical.

Not of the deliberations but of the testimony. Do try and get your facts straight.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-release-audio-brown-grand-jury-25568258

But only if he doesn't get what he wants. Still trying to strong arm the Grand Jury into an indictment. Must not think he has the case to get it without blackmail. Otherwise he would do the same thing with the tapes either way it turns out.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 3:20:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

If it is so cut and dried why is the prosecutor having to use strong arm tactics on the grand jury? He has threatened to release the audio of the deliberations if he doesn't get an indictment. Not sure it is illegal, clearly it is unethical.

Not of the deliberations but of the testimony. Do try and get your facts straight.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-release-audio-brown-grand-jury-25568258

But only if he doesn't get what he wants. Still trying to strong arm the Grand Jury into an indictment. Must not think he has the case to get it without blackmail. Otherwise he would do the same thing with the tapes either way it turns out.

No. If the Grand Jury returns an indictment then the testimony is evidence for the trial and is sealed. It is illegal to release it. Only if the jury returns no indictment can the investigation proceedings be released.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 3:48:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

If it is so cut and dried why is the prosecutor having to use strong arm tactics on the grand jury? He has threatened to release the audio of the deliberations if he doesn't get an indictment. Not sure it is illegal, clearly it is unethical.

Not of the deliberations but of the testimony. Do try and get your facts straight.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-release-audio-brown-grand-jury-25568258

But only if he doesn't get what he wants. Still trying to strong arm the Grand Jury into an indictment. Must not think he has the case to get it without blackmail. Otherwise he would do the same thing with the tapes either way it turns out.

No. If the Grand Jury returns an indictment then the testimony is evidence for the trial and is sealed. It is illegal to release it. Only if the jury returns no indictment can the investigation proceedings be released.

It is still an attempt to pressure the jury.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 4:07:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

If it is so cut and dried why is the prosecutor having to use strong arm tactics on the grand jury? He has threatened to release the audio of the deliberations if he doesn't get an indictment. Not sure it is illegal, clearly it is unethical.

Not of the deliberations but of the testimony. Do try and get your facts straight.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-release-audio-brown-grand-jury-25568258

But only if he doesn't get what he wants. Still trying to strong arm the Grand Jury into an indictment. Must not think he has the case to get it without blackmail. Otherwise he would do the same thing with the tapes either way it turns out.

No. If the Grand Jury returns an indictment then the testimony is evidence for the trial and is sealed. It is illegal to release it. Only if the jury returns no indictment can the investigation proceedings be released.

It is still an attempt to pressure the jury.

How? they can't read or watch the news. don't you know anything about sitting on juries?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 4:51:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but... People ignoring your stupidity isn't a win on your part, dk.

Sure...

The fact is you can't accuse the 2 white guys, who didn't know Brown, of being racially motivated or having any other reason to lie about what happened and they confirm that Brown surrendered before Wilson murdered him.

If it is so cut and dried why is the prosecutor having to use strong arm tactics on the grand jury? He has threatened to release the audio of the deliberations if he doesn't get an indictment. Not sure it is illegal, clearly it is unethical.

Not of the deliberations but of the testimony. Do try and get your facts straight.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-release-audio-brown-grand-jury-25568258

But only if he doesn't get what he wants. Still trying to strong arm the Grand Jury into an indictment. Must not think he has the case to get it without blackmail. Otherwise he would do the same thing with the tapes either way it turns out.

No. If the Grand Jury returns an indictment then the testimony is evidence for the trial and is sealed. It is illegal to release it. Only if the jury returns no indictment can the investigation proceedings be released.

It is still an attempt to pressure the jury.

How? they can't read or watch the news. don't you know anything about sitting on juries?

A Doesn't mean he didn't tell them.
B When my wife was on the Grand Jury she had no such restrictions. They know.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 9:24:51 PM

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A Doesn't mean he didn't tell them.
B When my wife was on the Grand Jury she had no such restrictions. They know.

Grand juries are not supposed to bring in outside bias about cases so watching the news would be potentially disqualifying. I'm not sure about Alabama case law on that but I'd think the convening judge would have instructed the jurors to avoid the news while sitting on the jury.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 9/27/2014 9:27:22 PM

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A Doesn't mean he didn't tell them.
B When my wife was on the Grand Jury she had no such restrictions. They know.

Grand juries are not supposed to bring in outside bias about cases so watching the news would be potentially disqualifying. I'm not sure about Alabama case law on that but I'd think the convening judge would have instructed the jurors to avoid the news while sitting on the jury.

Sorry, didn't happen the way you want it to so you can stuff it.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 10/2/2014 6:22:47 AM

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Possible grand jury misconduct in Ferguson case.

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The developments came on the same day the prosecutor's office said the investigation into the controversial shooting death in the St. Louis suburb has been completed.

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"The investigation has been basically completed that is being conducted by both the FBI and St. Louis County PD," Ed Magee, the spokesman for the prosecutor's office, told CNN.

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A grand jury is expected to decide by mid-November whether Wilson will be charged criminally for the shooting, which sparked weeks of unrest on the streets of Ferguson and calls for a federal civil rights investigation. The white police officer's shooting of the black teenager was heavily debated throughout the nation.

The grand jury, which began meeting in August, is expected to consider whether a crime was committed and if "probable cause" exist that Wilson committed that crime.

It was uncertain how the misconduct investigation might affect the case. If misconduct is found, the process may have to start over, The Post reported.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 10/14/2014 8:30:00 PM

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Shopping spree!

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/24/2014 6:51:41 PM

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No indictment handed down.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/24/2014 10:26:51 PM

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So there is an excuse to burn an loot.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/24/2014 10:35:51 PM

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So there is an excuse to burn an loot.

of course. They didn't get the answer they "should have"...in the interest of "justice"

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/25/2014 10:19:16 AM

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The DA gave a press conference attempting to explain why the grand jury voted the way they did. I saw the video on Fox, but I'm sure it's on other sites as well. It seems that a big reason for the decision was the "eyewitnesses". Some recanted. Some admitted they didn't actually see what happened, they were just repeating what they'd been told. Others stuck to their stories, even though those stories were contraindicated by the physical evidence. But hey, the rioters "know" Wilson was guilty. Why confuse them with silly facts?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/25/2014 12:18:33 PM

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Eyewitness testimony, especially from varied witnesses at different vantage points, is going to present a contradictory narrative. In shooting cases like this, the shooter gets to tell his story, ala George Zimmerman, but the deceased story is gone and left to our own imagination or reconstruction.

It's a little bit like the Ray Rice case -- absent the especially damning video of him cold-cocking his wife in the elevator -- he'd be playing in the NFL right now.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/25/2014 1:56:55 PM

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Eyewitness testimony, especially from varied witnesses at different vantage points, is going to present a contradictory narrative. In shooting cases like this, the shooter gets to tell his story, ala George Zimmerman, but the deceased story is gone and left to our own imagination or reconstruction.

It's a little bit like the Ray Rice case -- absent the especially damning video of him cold-cocking his wife in the elevator -- he'd be playing in the NFL right now.

I notice you ignored that the physical evidence backed Wilson's story.

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