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Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 3:30:37 AM   
MistressKel


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Status: offline 		Ok, this will sound like the same bullshit you hear from most who have a situation completely blow up in their face, and I'm not really into telling the actually story...but we had a slave from this site move in with us and live with us for a couple of months and she is seriously bad news...listen, this girl faked her own kidnapping and the FBI even got called in when the cops traced her cell traveling across the country as they stood here watching her text about how she was locked in a trunk in the back of a pickup truck--Hell, we can provide ALL of the proof you would need on this wackjob.

So, this chick was a complete psycho, cops got called twice (I called them when she abused her 5 month old son), and now she's on here begging for a place to stay and stuff...And I'm wondering, why the HELL can't I warn members of this community about this person? I mean, the police records are a public matter, and this chick is fairly dangerous because she will con men into doing her dirty work for her...

*shrugs* Hope no one here gets messed up by this one...I know that she's also been CONVICTED of falsely accusing another Collarspace member of rape...again, a matter of public record...we felt bad for her, believed her, and got screwed hard...Oh, and she faked at least 4 abortions from members of this site to get money from them (no proof of this though). Bad news....baddddd news...
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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 3:38:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		what? Does she know she puts innocent people of possible being viewed as criminals? Does she think that if her plans works that an innocent person might be sent to jail ? She seems to me she doesn't care about nobody just herself.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 7:03:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		So if the FBI had to waste their time on her nonsense, why isn't she facing charges for that? I'm not sure why a known scammer hasn't been convicted yet if she's come to the attention of the authorities.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 7:21:52 AM   
AthenaSurrenders


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If it's all public record, then take comfort from the fact that people can find this out themselves by doing their due diligence when they become involved with her.

Aside from the site rules (and even if you can prove that someone you know did all of these things, you'll have a harder time proving that it's the same person on the profile on here), I don't know how you could warn people in any sort of effective way. Chances are anyone she approached isn't also going to stumble across your profile and warning, so it's very unlikely that the warning would get to the target audience. If it was someone you know, you could have a friendly word in their ear, but otherwise chances are you and the next potential partner will never directly communicate. Most people are also highly skeptical of warnings since anyone can post any bollocks they like online, so rather than thinking 'I'll find out more and see what the proof is' they're likely to think you're bitter or a whackjob and ignore your warning.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 7:32:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressKel

Ok, this will sound like the same bullshit you hear from most who have a situation completely blow up in their face, and I'm not really into telling the actually story...but we had a slave from this site move in with us and live with us for a couple of months and she is seriously bad news...listen, this girl faked her own kidnapping and the FBI even got called in when the cops traced her cell traveling across the country as they stood here watching her text about how she was locked in a trunk in the back of a pickup truck--Hell, we can provide ALL of the proof you would need on this wackjob.

So, this chick was a complete psycho, cops got called twice (I called them when she abused her 5 month old son), and now she's on here begging for a place to stay and stuff...And I'm wondering, why the HELL can't I warn members of this community about this person? I mean, the police records are a public matter, and this chick is fairly dangerous because she will con men into doing her dirty work for her...

*shrugs* Hope no one here gets messed up by this one...I know that she's also been CONVICTED of falsely accusing another Collarspace member of rape...again, a matter of public record...we felt bad for her, believed her, and got screwed hard...Oh, and she faked at least 4 abortions from members of this site to get money from them (no proof of this though). Bad news....baddddd news...



I don't want to sound rude here but this sounds like a majorly poor judgement call on your part. It seems like you moved someone in without even knowing them AND with an infant(?), no less. If she's reported herself missing then what of the child? Did anyone ask that? This sounds just...I don't know, intense. I mean I have had my share of pretty intense situations but this kind of scares the crap out of me if what you're saying is true and if I were you, I'd worry about culpability as far as the child is concerned.
You guys are either WAY too nice/ naive, tried to take advantage of her obviously dire situation or making this up.
In any case, thanks for the awareness of such things and good luck to you.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 11:42:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressKel

Ok, this will sound like the same bullshit you hear from most who have a situation completely blow up in their face, and I'm not really into telling the actually story...but we had a slave from this site move in with us and live with us for a couple of months and she is seriously bad news...listen, this girl faked her own kidnapping and the FBI even got called in when the cops traced her cell traveling across the country as they stood here watching her text about how she was locked in a trunk in the back of a pickup truck--Hell, we can provide ALL of the proof you would need on this wackjob.

So, this chick was a complete psycho, cops got called twice (I called them when she abused her 5 month old son), and now she's on here begging for a place to stay and stuff...And I'm wondering, why the HELL can't I warn members of this community about this person? I mean, the police records are a public matter, and this chick is fairly dangerous because she will con men into doing her dirty work for her...

*shrugs* Hope no one here gets messed up by this one...I know that she's also been CONVICTED of falsely accusing another Collarspace member of rape...again, a matter of public record...we felt bad for her, believed her, and got screwed hard...Oh, and she faked at least 4 abortions from members of this site to get money from them (no proof of this though). Bad news....baddddd news...



What bothers me about your story is the fact that leading the police and the FBI on a wild goose chase across State lines usually does not end up with the person enjoying their freedom, let alone retaining custody of their infant son.

This is the Internet. Prudence and caution is advised.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 11:44:57 AM   
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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 11:48:08 AM   
Gauge


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

TapTap


Oh Jebus...

You wouldn't be wasting my time, would you?

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 11:50:05 AM   
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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 1:13:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressKel

Ok, this will sound like the same bullshit you hear from most who have a situation completely blow up in their face, and I'm not really into telling the actually story...but we had a slave from this site move in with us and live with us for a couple of months and she is seriously bad news...listen, this girl faked her own kidnapping and the FBI even got called in when the cops traced her cell traveling across the country as they stood here watching her text about how she was locked in a trunk in the back of a pickup truck--Hell, we can provide ALL of the proof you would need on this wackjob.

So, this chick was a complete psycho, cops got called twice (I called them when she abused her 5 month old son), and now she's on here begging for a place to stay and stuff...And I'm wondering, why the HELL can't I warn members of this community about this person? I mean, the police records are a public matter, and this chick is fairly dangerous because she will con men into doing her dirty work for her...

*shrugs* Hope no one here gets messed up by this one...I know that she's also been CONVICTED of falsely accusing another Collarspace member of rape...again, a matter of public record...we felt bad for her, believed her, and got screwed hard...Oh, and she faked at least 4 abortions from members of this site to get money from them (no proof of this though). Bad news....baddddd news...



Ahhh, I wouldn't mind Marie2. She's not so bad when you get to know her, although you'll always need to sleep with an axe under your pillow just in case.


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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 1:15:21 PM   
MistressKel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressKel

Ok, this will sound like the same bullshit you hear from most who have a situation completely blow up in their face, and I'm not really into telling the actually story...but we had a slave from this site move in with us and live with us for a couple of months and she is seriously bad news...listen, this girl faked her own kidnapping and the FBI even got called in when the cops traced her cell traveling across the country as they stood here watching her text about how she was locked in a trunk in the back of a pickup truck--Hell, we can provide ALL of the proof you would need on this wackjob.

So, this chick was a complete psycho, cops got called twice (I called them when she abused her 5 month old son), and now she's on here begging for a place to stay and stuff...And I'm wondering, why the HELL can't I warn members of this community about this person? I mean, the police records are a public matter, and this chick is fairly dangerous because she will con men into doing her dirty work for her...

*shrugs* Hope no one here gets messed up by this one...I know that she's also been CONVICTED of falsely accusing another Collarspace member of rape...again, a matter of public record...we felt bad for her, believed her, and got screwed hard...Oh, and she faked at least 4 abortions from members of this site to get money from them (no proof of this though). Bad news....baddddd news...



I don't want to sound rude here but this sounds like a majorly poor judgement call on your part. It seems like you moved someone in without even knowing them AND with an infant(?), no less. If she's reported herself missing then what of the child? Did anyone ask that? This sounds just...I don't know, intense. I mean I have had my share of pretty intense situations but this kind of scares the crap out of me if what you're saying is true and if I were you, I'd worry about culpability as far as the child is concerned.
You guys are either WAY too nice/ naive, tried to take advantage of her obviously dire situation or making this up.
In any case, thanks for the awareness of such things and good luck to you.


Good points...

1. When she moved in, it was because we were renting a room to her and her child because she was in a domestic violence shelter and we rent out the three bedrooms upstairs. We had an opening (now they are all empty because everyone moved out at the end of last month.) Yes, it was a stupid move to make, but she had an infant and was "raped" and all this crap...so we decided to rent to her so she could finish out her 6 months of probation (for the false arrest). I have a vested personal interested to help young mothers due to my own personal past situations, and yeah, we made a bad choice trying to help her at all--this is true.

2. One of the major issues we had is that once we accepted her as an actual slave she got rid of her kid. Yep, she sent him off to live about an hour away with her grandmother because I wouldn't help her with her kid--I don't WANT a kid, I normally would NOT accept someone with a kid into my service at ALL, but she cried constantly and said she needed to be owned... Anyhow, his leaving was supposed to be a temporary situation, then when she tantrumed one day because we said she couldn't buy him ANOTHER $100.00 TOY, she called and told her grandmother to keep him we never saw him again. She claimed it was my fault...

The biggest issue we had was that legally, we could NOT force her to leave our property after she had been here for a week straight. Apparently, you then have to evict someone. We were told that she had the right to literally smash our windows in if she needed to get in the house and could not--so we couldn't just put her out either.

I personally, do not want ANYTHING to do with females in this lifestyle anymore--it's just not worth the risk of having one of these pieces of shit come up in your crib and ruin your life...be VERY careful in the future because the law gives these psycho's more rights than you have if you're not aware and careful. Yes, I realize I'm shitty for putting it off on all females, but at this point, even seeing another female nude makes me think of her and feel nauseous. THAT was why I wanted to warn people...I mean, I couldn't even shit without this girl LITERALLY poking her head in the door and just STARING at me...just standing there staring...

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 1:28:18 PM   
MistressKel


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

So if the FBI had to waste their time on her nonsense, why isn't she facing charges for that? I'm not sure why a known scammer hasn't been convicted yet if she's come to the attention of the authorities.


She WAS convicted of lying about being raped...in fact, the cops believe that her "kidnapping" may have been a mere cover up for her to leave the state against her probation's rules.

The local cops will not give us any further information regarding whether or not they plan to prosecute her, I know that they have asked her to come in to speak with them but do not know if she has or not and I do not know what the FBI's involvement is aside from the fact that after the local cops traced her cell and saw she was traveling down south, then veered her course to go back north then out west (which is where she said she "thought" they were going before they changed course).

So, on that note, apparently they are not able to find her at present because she hasn't even bothered to come see them as requested. No idea. She has not returned here since she was 'kidnapped' (mind you, she snuck back into the house when we were gone on that same day and took almost all of her stuff with her, so there is really no reason for her to come back---thank GOD).

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 1:28:25 PM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Status: offline 		I can't think of a tactful way to say this, so I'm just going to come out with it.

She was an abuse victim, moving out of a domestic abuse shelter with a very young child. She was a rape victim. She had no sense of personal boundaries. She wasn't capable/willing to care for her child without your help. She emotionally manipulated you into changing your relationship dynamics from landlord-tenant to dom-sub.

What on earth made you agree to get into a D/s relationship with someone who quite clearly had some massive issues that she needed to work through? I wonder if your own history of abuse has impacted your ability to make good relationship decisions. I've seen many examples of people who deeply desire to help victims of abuse because of their own history, when in fact they are not the right person to do so because of their own unresolved issues. I mean that in the kindest possible way.

While this person might be an absolute train wreck and nothing but trouble, it seems like your own actions certainly fed into this disaster.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/20/2014 1:35:53 PM   
MistressKel


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I can't think of a tactful way to say this, so I'm just going to come out with it.

She was an abuse victim, moving out of a domestic abuse shelter with a very young child. She was a rape victim. She had no sense of personal boundaries. She wasn't capable/willing to care for her child without your help. She emotionally manipulated you into changing your relationship dynamics from landlord-tenant to dom-sub.

What on earth made you agree to get into a D/s relationship with someone who quite clearly had some massive issues that she needed to work through? I wonder if your own history of abuse has impacted your ability to make good relationship decisions. I've seen many examples of people who deeply desire to help victims of abuse because of their own history, when in fact they are not the right person to do so because of their own unresolved issues. I mean that in the kindest possible way.

While this person might be an absolute train wreck and nothing but trouble, it seems like your own actions certainly fed into this disaster.


She had no signs of being dysfunctional...she is a player==100% it's ALL a game for her. She will tell you this if you ask her...

I agree fully! And, have spent a great deal of time thinking about that in this past month (It's been more than 2 weeks since she 'escaped' the 'kidnappers'.) The problem was that she didn't let it go...she started shit with EVERYONE--including her po, the cops, she doesn't care...EVERYONE moved out because of her behaviours...anyone who has met her doesn't want to visit, and she is uninvited to visit most of the people who we visit due to her actions.


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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/21/2014 4:02:15 AM   
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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/21/2014 10:45:31 PM   
seekingreality


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ORIGINAL: MistressKel

Good points...

1. When she moved in, it was because we were renting a room to her and her child because she was in a domestic violence shelter and we rent out the three bedrooms upstairs. We had an opening (now they are all empty because everyone moved out at the end of last month.) Yes, it was a stupid move to make, but she had an infant and was "raped" and all this crap...so we decided to rent to her so she could finish out her 6 months of probation (for the false arrest). I have a vested personal interested to help young mothers due to my own personal past situations, and yeah, we made a bad choice trying to help her at all--this is true.

2. One of the major issues we had is that once we accepted her as an actual slave she got rid of her kid. Yep, she sent him off to live about an hour away with her grandmother because I wouldn't help her with her kid--I don't WANT a kid, I normally would NOT accept someone with a kid into my service at ALL, but she cried constantly and said she needed to be owned... Anyhow, his leaving was supposed to be a temporary situation, then when she tantrumed one day because we said she couldn't buy him ANOTHER $100.00 TOY, she called and told her grandmother to keep him we never saw him again. She claimed it was my fault...

The biggest issue we had was that legally, we could NOT force her to leave our property after she had been here for a week straight. Apparently, you then have to evict someone. We were told that she had the right to literally smash our windows in if she needed to get in the house and could not--so we couldn't just put her out either.

I personally, do not want ANYTHING to do with females in this lifestyle anymore--it's just not worth the risk of having one of these pieces of shit come up in your crib and ruin your life...be VERY careful in the future because the law gives these psycho's more rights than you have if you're not aware and careful. Yes, I realize I'm shitty for putting it off on all females, but at this point, even seeing another female nude makes me think of her and feel nauseous. THAT was why I wanted to warn people...I mean, I couldn't even shit without this girl LITERALLY poking her head in the door and just STARING at me...just standing there staring...


If I were you, I wouldn't worry about "warning the community." Frankly, I'd take a break from all the BDSM stuff; analyze why you made such a series of bad decisions; and take responsibility for the train wreck rather than point fingers.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/21/2014 11:53:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		My suggestion to you is forget about the kink aspects and work on getting this person out of your home and life. Since she's established residency, she must be evicted. Contact a lawyer and find out exactly what steps you have to go through. Does she still have a lease? If so, hold her to every single aspect of it. If not, it's harder I believe, but it depends on your state.

Your other option, you mentioned her as being irrational. Is she ever violent? Maybe it's worth taking a hit if it will allow you to have the police remove her? While she's gone, evict her and get a restraining order.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/22/2014 11:54:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressKel




The biggest issue we had was that legally, we could NOT force her to leave our property after she had been here for a week straight. Apparently, you then have to evict someone. We were told that she had the right to literally smash our windows in if she needed to get in the house and could not--so we couldn't just put her out either.



And, who told you this?

I have never heard of someone "establishing residency" to the point of having to be evicted after being someplace for only a week, absent a signed lease or other agreement. Perhaps you are thinking of the incident in California between a couple and their nanny? Even the default is generally "month to month" in terms of a strict rental agreement (without a written lease). 30 days notice, and she would have been out of there-- no "eviction process" necessary.

In every jurisdiction I know of, both in the US and Canada, there is no such thing as "self-help". Meaning that if the landlord or tenant believes that an agreement has been breached, the locks cannot be changed, and the property cannot be destroyed by one party or the other absent intervention by the court. I am not intimately familiar with Michigan law, but I would be absolutely gobsmacked if she had the inherent right to smash the windows or knock down the door in order to get into your home.

Notwithstanding this....lesson learned. You rent to people, you do your homework, or accept the consequences.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/22/2014 1:09:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		What MistressKel said in the quoted paragraph is entirely accurate for California. Beware how long you let someone park in your guest room. I.e., no longer than a weekend.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/22/2014 1:31:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

What MistressKel said in the quoted paragraph is entirely accurate for California. Beware how long you let someone park in your guest room. I.e., no longer than a weekend.


The situation in California was different than this. Ostensibly, the nanny in California was hired to be a nanny, and moved into their house to be such. Residency would have been changed at that point.

If I let someone "park" on my couch, without any sort of agreement, whether written or verbal, in place, "squatter's rights" won't come into play nearly as soon, if at all. There's a vast distinction between "employee" and "invitee".

If I go to visit someone in California for a week, let's say...and then decide that I really like his place and want to stay...he has every right to get the sheriff on my ass to get me out of there as a trespasser if he wants to. The issue with the "nanny" case is that there is an allegation that there was an agreement in place for a "30 day notice", and she was an "employee". All of a sudden, that changes the issue from this being a trespassing situation to something that should be taken care of as a "landlord/tenant" dispute in the courts.


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