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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/22/2014 2:19:57 PM   
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If I let someone "park" on my couch, without any sort of agreement, whether written or verbal, in place, "squatter's rights" won't come into play nearly as soon, if at all. There's a vast distinction between "employee" and "invitee".



In, at least, three states of which I am aware, if they have mail delivered to your address, they've "taken up residence".







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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/22/2014 2:31:54 PM   
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If I let someone "park" on my couch, without any sort of agreement, whether written or verbal, in place, "squatter's rights" won't come into play nearly as soon, if at all. There's a vast distinction between "employee" and "invitee".



In, at least, three states of which I am aware, if they have mail delivered to your address, they've "taken up residence".





There's a vast difference between "changing your address" with the post office, and an actual "residence".

To go back to the example I gave with my friend in California...sure, I could go over to the post office and change my mailing address. At the end of the day, what does that prove? That I can find the post office and fill out the form?

Without any additional proof as to my residence, that's not likely to fly. Sure, in California, I'd have to go prove it in court, but, yeah, that buys me, what? 30 days? Chuckles...I can see the judge saying to the landlord, "hey, you want her out? Then give her the 30 day notice now". And that's giving me, the trespasser, the complete benefit of the doubt.

Just out of curiosity, what are these three states that you know of?







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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/24/2014 10:53:11 PM   
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I was starting to feel a little sympathetic until MK's line "we weren't going to take her in, but she cried and said she needed to be owned". (Probably not the exact wording, but close enough.)

Really? What she NEEDED was to get grounded and figure out a way to give her child a decent upbringing, not playing kajira on Planet Gor. Were you renting out your bedrooms to boarders to help make ends meet or were you going for the "houseful of slaves" fantasy? When BDSM starts clouding your common sense and you can't separate it from the real world, it might be time to step back and rethink your priorities and goals in life.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 8/31/2014 11:58:48 AM   
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Good points...

1. I have a vested personal interested to help young mothers due to my own personal past situations, and yeah, we made a bad choice trying to help her at all--this is true.

2. One of the major issues we had is that once we accepted her as an actual slave she got rid of her kid. Yep, she sent him off to live about an hour away with her grandmother because I wouldn't help her with her kid--I don't WANT a kid, I normally would NOT accept someone with a kid into my service at ALL, but she cried constantly and said she needed to be owned...


So you put the pressure on her to get rid of the kid? She was clearly mentally unstable but you told her she could only be your slave if the kid was out of the picture.

You do not help young needy mothers. You destroy them.


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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/1/2014 12:59:49 AM   
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So, do you mind if I ask who you want to warn the community about, this messed up vulnerable girl or you?

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/1/2014 4:16:33 PM   
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Ok, this will sound like the same bullshit you hear from most who have a situation completely blow up in their face, and I'm not really into telling the actually story...but we had a slave from this site move in with us and live with us for a couple of months and she is seriously bad news...listen, this girl faked her own kidnapping and the FBI even got called in when the cops traced her cell traveling across the country as they stood here watching her text about how she was locked in a trunk in the back of a pickup truck--Hell, we can provide ALL of the proof you would need on this wackjob.

So, this chick was a complete psycho, cops got called twice (I called them when she abused her 5 month old son), and now she's on here begging for a place to stay and stuff...And I'm wondering, why the HELL can't I warn members of this community about this person? I mean, the police records are a public matter, and this chick is fairly dangerous because she will con men into doing her dirty work for her...

*shrugs* Hope no one here gets messed up by this one...I know that she's also been CONVICTED of falsely accusing another Collarspace member of rape...again, a matter of public record...we felt bad for her, believed her, and got screwed hard...Oh, and she faked at least 4 abortions from members of this site to get money from them (no proof of this though). Bad news....baddddd news...



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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/2/2014 3:06:15 AM   
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So you put the pressure on her to get rid of the kid? She was clearly mentally unstable but you told her she could only be your slave if the kid was out of the picture.

You do not help young needy mothers. You destroy them.



Apparently you haven't been paying attention or I didn't make myself clear. We ONLY took her in on the condition that it would give her a better environment to raise her child in than a DV shelter. There was no leveraging the kid away. Our primary demand of her was that she take care of her child and as soon as he got in the way of her being a slut, she shipped him off to the aforementioned relative's house.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/2/2014 3:10:28 AM   
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So, do you mind if I ask who you want to warn the community about, this messed up vulnerable girl or you?


So why is it you insist on trolling? Does it make you feel manly to wield a keyboard with such strength? If you aren't going to read, and troll intelligently, don't bother, because you are a waste of space on these forums with these intelligent people.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/2/2014 4:22:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB
So you put the pressure on her to get rid of the kid? She was clearly mentally unstable but you told her she could only be your slave if the kid was out of the picture.

You do not help young needy mothers. You destroy them.



Apparently you haven't been paying attention or I didn't make myself clear. We ONLY took her in on the condition that it would give her a better environment to raise her child in than a DV shelter. There was no leveraging the kid away. Our primary demand of her was that she take care of her child and as soon as he got in the way of her being a slut, she shipped him off to the aforementioned relative's house.


Actually it was me paying attention that picked up on what I quoted.

You only took her in on the condition that she would give a better environment to the child but when the child got in the way she sent the child to live with relatives because you made it clear you didn't want a little one around for the sort of dynamic you all craved. When she begged and pleaded and acted like a slut could you not see the damage she was doing to herself and her wee one? Could you not see how potentially mentally ill she was and get her the help she needed? You allowed her to send the child away and you allowed her to become your slave..... WHY? You were very much a part of bringing about this train wreck and you need to understand that. You should apportion some of the blame onto your own backs for ever allowing things to get so deranged.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/2/2014 7:24:54 AM   
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As a noted comedian is fond of saying, "you can't fix stupid".
To that I'll add that you can't "fix" anyone.
OK..ok..you can have them spayed.
Not the same thing.
To take in ANY ONE who is so obviously desperate for someone to rescue them and expect them to be any different once settled in is insanity.
As for the kid..he's probably better off not being with a mother of her sort.
Yeah, yeah, I hear all the "owners rights", "mothers rights" and more out there ready to lynch me.
That's fine. You feel the way you want to.
Me, I think it borders on criminal to permit a kid to live with such an obviously fucked up "mother" who will fuck up her kids life.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/2/2014 7:38:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressKel

quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

So, do you mind if I ask who you want to warn the community about, this messed up vulnerable girl or you?


So why is it you insist on trolling? Does it make you feel manly to wield a keyboard with such strength? If you aren't going to read, and troll intelligently, don't bother, because you are a waste of space on these forums with these intelligent people.


You know, you're right, it was a snarky thing to say. I can, though, assure you that my manliness or otherwise is certainly not the reason I post, and while it may well be your view that I'm a waste of space on these forums with these intelligent people, I'm generally pretty happy with the contribution I make.

Now, here's what I should have said:

No, there isn't a way to warn people on these boards, in part because there are always two sides to a story.

In this case, I think that taking a very clearly vulnerable woman on as a slave is a fantastically foolish thing to do, and reflects very poorly on your judgement.

I appreciate that this messed up and vulnerable woman begged you to take her on, but I think you ought to reflect a little more on your own actions, because they do not show you in a good light at all.

I do hope that helps, and sorry again for being snarky, and... I do hope that you do reflect a little and that your choices are better in the future.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/2/2014 7:41:10 AM   
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As a noted comedian is fond of saying, "you can't fix stupid".
To that I'll add that you can't "fix" anyone.
OK..ok..you can have them spayed.
Not the same thing.
To take in ANY ONE who is so obviously desperate for someone to rescue them and expect them to be any different once settled in is insanity.
As for the kid..he's probably better off not being with a mother of her sort.

Yeah, yeah, I hear all the "owners rights", "mothers rights" and more out there ready to lynch me.
That's fine. You feel the way you want to.
Me, I think it borders on criminal to permit a kid to live with such an obviously fucked up "mother" who will fuck up her kids life.


I disagree but then I was that kid. If I had a penny for every person who has ever told me I was better off without my parents I'd be a wealthy woman. My question is, why didn't someone help them so that they could keep me?

How can we make judgement on this girl? we don't know her and we don't know her side of the story. If she does have a co-dependant personality then its help and support and counselling she needs. Throwing people like her in the trash and believing the child is better off without them is something that happens all too often.


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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/2/2014 8:08:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BigBearSwats

As a noted comedian is fond of saying, "you can't fix stupid".
To that I'll add that you can't "fix" anyone.
OK..ok..you can have them spayed.
Not the same thing.
To take in ANY ONE who is so obviously desperate for someone to rescue them and expect them to be any different once settled in is insanity.
As for the kid..he's probably better off not being with a mother of her sort.

Yeah, yeah, I hear all the "owners rights", "mothers rights" and more out there ready to lynch me.
That's fine. You feel the way you want to.
Me, I think it borders on criminal to permit a kid to live with such an obviously fucked up "mother" who will fuck up her kids life.


I disagree but then I was that kid. If I had a penny for every person who has ever told me I was better off without my parents I'd be a wealthy woman. My question is, why didn't someone help them so that they could keep me?

How can we make judgement on this girl? we don't know her and we don't know her side of the story. If she does have a co-dependant personality then its help and support and counselling she needs. Throwing people like her in the trash and believing the child is better off without them is something that happens all too often.



Perhaps they didn't want help?

My mother was fucked up. I prayed every day that someone would rescue me from her.
The fantasy of how life would be without her was always lovely. Who knows how it really would have been?
As an adult I moved on, found a great therapist, forgave my mother and found happiness. It's too easy to blame someone else for one's unhappiness.

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/3/2014 5:26:01 PM   
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She rented from her though, or so I believe I read. That does give her rights, although I struggle to understand the why on certain aspects of the story. Please be more careful in the future. I totally understand getting swept up in trying to do the right thing, but that right thing should have never crossed into bdsm. Boundaries. Submission and slavery are gifts. By original posters own account, this woman was not able to give that gift, and no one had any such business in accepting it during this chaotic situation. I'm sorry for you all actually :(

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RE: Question about how to warn community of Member - 9/3/2014 5:27:38 PM   
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Crazyml- hello dear!!!

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