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FieryOpal -> RE: Do you agree? (8/26/2014 6:58:36 PM)
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
[A] Yes, of course it's possible. It is the responsibility of the more experienced partner (typically the man) to teach the less experienced partner (typically the woman, but not always).
This is the 2014. Woman sufferage is nearly a hundred years old. Are you telling me that men are smarter than women? I do not find that women today are typically less experienced than men.
It doesn't take IQ points to gain sexual experience. Any dufus with a hard-on can find some way to get laid.
Sexual experience or inexperience aside, as a general rule, women need to feel they are in love or else pair-bonded before having sex with a man, which is prima facie evidence that women are indeed making love to their man. (The quality of the love-making is not the issue here.)
Men do not ordinarily have this requirement in order to have sex. Without the injection of love into the equation, making love without feeling authentic love is not genuine love-making--it is just a sexual performance. It may be a good, believable one, but a performance all the same.
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Why would you presume that a woman only wants to get married to have a child? In this day and age, a woman doesn't have to get married to accomplish this.
Do you presume that this practice has been abandoned?
I don't believe that there are women who get married solely for the purpose of having children. They get married because they believe they are in love for the most part.
That is akin to asking, Are there people who get married who don't love one another? Yes, there are, but not ordinarily.
If you look hard enough, you can find an exception to every rule that the vast majority follows, but that doesn't make it the prevailing practice.
You might even find a man who gets married just to have a child, where he can stay home as a househusband and be supported by his wife. Not so farfetched, either.
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Is it possible there are men who are looking to sponge off of their wives?
In a society were men typically make more than women by a significant amount I should think that would be a minority effort. Especially if a woman has acquired a sizeable stash she is not likely to marry down.
So your answer is yes, minority or not. It isn't uncommon for the woman to make more money than the man. This happens a lot in this day and age.
There have been plenty of women throughout history who have married down, despite the negative consequences. Women in Western society marry out of love, and we don't get to choose who we'll end up falling in love with.
On a personal note, both times I was engaged, they were marrying-down scenarios.
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Nowadays both spouses work more often than not, and there are few men who can offer a "paid up ticket."
Any journeyman in the trades is good for 100k before taxes. Now if he is a white shoe paper shufler then 100k would be a starting point.
And, your point is? A woman doesn't marry a profession, or very rarely is that what she's got her eye on. An independent contractor or sole proprietor needs help in order to expand his business. An unpaid secretary/assistant, home office manager, or front office manager who also does the bookkeeping. I have not known a single journeyman who doesn't have either his wife, girlfriend, mother or sister helping out without benefit of wages.
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
Those community property (shared) assets also more often than not represent at least half of the wife's earned income contribution to the marriage and/or what she brought with her into the marriage.
I think the ivana trumph would be the poster child for that scenario.
No, you are mistaken and throwing out a highly prejudicial and unsubstantiated remark. Ivana was not sitting at home eating bon-bons in front of the TV. She was out there every day running Trump's enterprises with him, helping to manage hotels, etc. He has given her credit for his success in interviews, and that's why he's gone on record for saying she deserved everything she got in their divorce settlement.
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Is it possible that they cop an attitude if he masturbates...?
[B] If he is pre-occupied with his dick whenever he's home instead of pitching in to help out, then he's not doing his part.
Since that was not part of anything I commented on it has no place in this discussion. You are not dealing with the issues and are trying to obfuscate the issue by bringing in spurious issues.
Ahem, you were saying? [8|]
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
[C] Who does the whoring around and cyber-cheating on their spouses? On the infidelity website AM, it is reported that just over 30% of its members are women (with rumors swirling that many of the female profiles have been fabricated to draw in male members); with the site being free for them--men have to pay through the nose. Now, how many of these cheaters are squandering marital resources on their premeditated or consummated infidelities? Paid-up ticket, my ass.
If as you say thirty percent of the members are female it would seem that perhaps some of them are married and thus cyber cheating on their spouses?
Last I checked 30% is roughly 1/3. Unofficially, this makes a ratio of 3:1 husband cheaters vice wife cheaters.
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