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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:25:37 PM   
HunterCA


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Status: offline 		CNN (Communist News Network) says the 2.5 million may have been correct in 1995 when it was calculated but crime in General has gone down since 1995 so that number is wrong now. I say fine. As I stated earlier the numbers have been ignored by kool aid drinking liberals for decades and the crime numbers have gone down as CCW permits issued go up. So crime since the number was calculated has dropped 30% because of increased CCW permits issued. I'll accept 0.7 x 2.5 million = 1.75 million now.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:27:09 PM   
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FR
usnews.nbcnews.com/

This tells about the Bloomberg study with
100,000

So much for inferring I am a liar.
Just because you don't know something doesn't make it a lie.

I checked the link and scrolled all the way through it.
There is no such reference.


How are you pretending the cdc study with FBI conformation with number at 600,000 doesn't count.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:30:13 PM   
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Gun owners of America which you probably won't accept because they don't parrot Brady and your party line.

https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.h...



doesn't work, just like bama's pro gun link and your brain

Daily cos has a study showing 600,000 defensive uses by gun, verified by the fbi

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:34:18 PM   
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www.dailykos.com/.../-Defensive-Gun-Use-

According to this CDC puts the number of defensive gun uses at 600,000


here's a link from the dailykos that might work.....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/19/1203254/-More-NRA-mythbusting-do-guns-prevent-crime#

I particularly liked this

The annual average of guns used in self-defense is 67,600, vs. 232,400 guns that are stolen. So that trusty weapon is about 3 and a half times more likely to get thieved than to be used to carry out a heroic fantasy.




Let me explain the difference between adults and 8-year olds. You read dailykos, drink your kool aid, get a warm submissive glow from conforming to party propaganda and call people names who don't drink the kool aid. I read dailykos, CNN, the Gun Owners of America, the study by the Phd at Florida and make an informed decision. If people ask for links to those things I supply them and let them make their own informed decision rather than call them names.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:34:51 PM   
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CNN (Communist News Network) says the 2.5 million may have been correct in 1995 when it was calculated but crime in General has gone down since 1995 so that number is wrong now. I say fine. As I stated earlier the numbers have been ignored by kool aid drinking liberals for decades and the crime numbers have gone down as CCW permits issued go up.

Their "refutation" falls flat because of course the number would drop as crime dropped less criminals less criminals to stop.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:42:14 PM   
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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:42:22 PM   
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CNN (Communist News Network) says the 2.5 million may have been correct in 1995 when it was calculated but crime in General has gone down since 1995 so that number is wrong now. I say fine. As I stated earlier the numbers have been ignored by kool aid drinking liberals for decades and the crime numbers have gone down as CCW permits issued go up.

Their "refutation" falls flat because of course the number would drop as crime dropped less criminals less criminals to stop.


Sure, more CCW permits issued, less crime. They say crime is down 30% from when the 2.5 million was calculated. So let's adjust. 0.7 x 2.5 million = 1.75 million now. I'll accept that number.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:45:33 PM   
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I'd be careful throwing your lot in with hunter, he makes you look like Ghandi



Pix....I'm not in the same room with you. You don't have to fear me or be careful about me.

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Oh wait! I get it, opening your eyes and thinking something the kool aid dispensers hasn't allowed you is scary for you isn't it? Sorry pix. But when you become a big boy it will be easier.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:48:42 PM   
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I'd be careful throwing your lot in with hunter, he makes you look like Ghandi



Pix....I'm not in the same room with you. You don't have to fear me or be careful about me.

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Oh wait! I get it, opening your eyes and thinking something the kool aid dispensers hasn't allowed you is scary for you isn't it? Sorry pix. But when you become a big boy it will be easier.



Liberals really really hate when you treat them like they treat everyone else.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 4:56:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh come on Pix. I didn't mean to expose your juvenile bully side. I tell you what. I've got a two hour drive to my bunkered, armed enclave in the mountains for the three day weekend. You can come out and be as inane and childish as you wish and I won't say a word during my drive. I promise Pix.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:00:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh Pix....Gandhi said, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:06:32 PM   
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Oh come on Pix. I didn't mean to expose your juvenile bully side. I tell you what. I've got a two hour drive to my bunkered, armed enclave in the mountains for the three day weekend. You can come out and be as inane and childish as you wish and I won't say a word during my drive. I promise Pix.


As a rule I don't go into the woods for 3 days with insane old men, but thanks anyway sweety

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:09:25 PM   
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Oh Pix....Gandhi said, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."



Do know the whole of the speech, or what Ghandi even meant by it ?

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:10:53 PM   
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I'd be careful throwing your lot in with hunter, he makes you look like Ghandi

I am like Ghandi, remember he said that if they there had been nukes available to them to use against the British they would have used them.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:11:27 PM   
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If someone tries to kill someone else, the the aggressor forfeits his right to life insofar as ending his life is necessary for or a consequent of the defense of the innocent's life. Otherwise you are drowning in sea of moral relativism. Where Charles Manson has the same right to life as you.

That might be true for the US.
I'm pretty sure it's not true (legally and otherwise) elsewhere.


ETA: even the most vile, despicable, low-life, criminal has a right to life just like everyone else.




So if someone came at you with a knife and you had the choice between shooting him and letting him kill you, you would let him kill you because he has a right to life also?

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:12:31 PM   
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CNN (Communist News Network) says the 2.5 million may have been correct in 1995 when it was calculated but crime in General has gone down since 1995 so that number is wrong now. I say fine. As I stated earlier the numbers have been ignored by kool aid drinking liberals for decades and the crime numbers have gone down as CCW permits issued go up.

Their "refutation" falls flat because of course the number would drop as crime dropped less criminals less criminals to stop.


Sure, more CCW permits issued, less crime. They say crime is down 30% from when the 2.5 million was calculated. So let's adjust. 0.7 x 2.5 million = 1.75 million now. I'll accept that number.

Sounds about right but CNN just became a right wing wacko source.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:12:50 PM   
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Oh Pix....Gandhi said, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."


He was a great man, a peaceful man, even he would probably be slightly vexed however by being quoted by a man like you.

"
Non-violence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man."

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:18:10 PM   
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Oh Pix....Gandhi said, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."


He was a great man, a peaceful man, even he would probably be slightly vexed however by being quoted by a man like you.

"
Non-violence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man."

And yet he made the statement I quoted, I noticed you didn't even bother to deny it. He said that civil disobedience was the only weapon they had so they used it.

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:20:01 PM   
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I'd be careful throwing your lot in with hunter, he makes you look like Ghandi

I am like Ghandi, remember he said that if they there had been nukes available to them to use against the British they would have used them.


OhBama.......... You are talking bollocks again.

""Oh, on that point you can proclaim to the whole world without hesitation," exclaimed Gandhi, "that I am beyond repair. I regard the employment of the atom bomb for the wholesale destruction of men, women and children as the most diabolical use of science."

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RE: California's gun restrictions are working! - 8/29/2014 5:20:50 PM   
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Oh Pix....Gandhi said, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."



Do know the whole of the speech, or what Ghandi even meant by it ?

Actually I do and yes. Oh, and it wasn't a speech. It was a WWI recruiting pamphlet.

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