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Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/24/2014 11:29:35 PM

davezzo

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First: This is in no way a personal add! I am still a few years away from being able to make this happen. I seek information and advice from the wise Mistresses here, hoping 1 or two are kind enough to reply.

I have some advanced kinks. For example, full toilet service to one or more strong Dominant Women. Literally to live in the waste of several Woman 20+ hours a day. This from a user named {removed by Moderator}, "...You see a male toilet slave in this Woman’s family lives in the basement of our home in a box the size of a coffin. Its whole body is in the toilet not just its head. The toilet box is lined with plastic and it lives in the waste of the family. Any Woman, is allowed to use the male toilet slave at any time. At the moment, there are no men living here and there may never be. But there are my four daughters and I, and I can assure you that you will be used and trained as our toilet for the rest of your miserable life...". if I found myself in such a situation it would be my life's fulfillment.

This Woman speaks of keeping her Toilet in the box 22 hours a day, only coming out briefly to clean my box (my home!), clean myself, and to get some real exercise. If I were lucky to have it all, I'd hope to receive some brutal punishments during the time out of the box, too.

So my questions: I'd be perfectly happy exchanging my sizeable social security check (I'm 6 years away from retirement) if the recipient could accommodate me in a fashion similar to that described bu [removed by Moderator]. Are there Woman out there who might find such an arrangement attractive? How does one find them?

PS/ I am aware of and accept the health risks - its my strong desire to retire into this lifestyle even if that means a rather short retirement. :(

Thanks for reading this. I look forward to any response that, if I'm lucky, might come my way...?

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/25/2014 12:13:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: davezzo

First: This is in no way a personal add!

Ummm... yeah, sure.

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So my questions: I'd be perfectly happy exchanging my sizeable social security check (I'm 6 years away from retirement) if the recipient could accommodate me in a fashion similar to that described bu [removed]. Are there Woman out there who might find such an arrangement attractive? How does one find them?

Make this a journal entry. Your mail box will overflow.

quote:

Thanks for reading this. I look forward to any response that, if I'm lucky, might come my way...?

Welcome to the forums.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/25/2014 8:52:51 AM

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TY Gauge, I did as you advised and posted to a journal. On "personal add" and "sure", note that I won't be prepared to make this transition for another 6 years. I'm really just seeking information as to whether this is an impossible pipe dream or something I can reasonably work toward.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/25/2014 9:15:52 AM

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So you read some dude's fantasy and decided that you want to live this fantasy 24/7 for the rest of your life without trying it even once?

Check out local pro Dommes and hookers to see if one will take a dump on you for money. Try to work up to your fantasy, and see if it really DOES grab you or not.

And unless your SS check is REALLY sizable, most people, Dommes included, would rather just take in a renter instead of someone who wants to live in a box of shit, with all the natural hygiene and disease issues. And what's with HER cleaning out the box? Your fantasy, YOU do the cleaning.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/25/2014 9:21:12 AM

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~FRing it~

So let me get this straight. You want some chick to cater to your kink your way like she was some sort of defecating pissing fetish delivery system? You will exchange your social security check so you can be a do-me sub?

Yeah, the dominant ladies should be all over that one in a heartbeat

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/25/2014 9:46:35 AM

AthenaSurrenders

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Let's think this one through, shall we?

- While you're in a box covered in shit, you can't be helping with the housework, running errands, tidying the yard etc. So you have nothing to offer in terms of practical help.
- While you're in a box covered in shit, you can't be taking her on fun dates, rubbing her shoulders, debating current events with her or cuddling up on the sofa to watch a film. So you're offering her nothing in terms of companionship.
- While you're in a box covered in shit, you can't be going down on her, doing her doggy style or indulging her outdoor sex fetish. So you have nothing to offer her sexually, unless she happens to be wildly turned on by crapping on you. This is a) highly unusual, particularly for a woman b) going to result in her being frustrated since she's getting turned on and not having sex and c) going to get boring eventually because even our number 1 fantasy is dull if that's all you ever do day in day out.
- You are offering her money. Presumably enough to cover your food and medical needs, and a contribution to the household bills, yes? But she could just have a sub who contributes financially and ALSO offers her practical help, companionship and sexual pleasure.
- You are offering her the opportunity to poop on someone. Most people prefer to poop in private. Most homes have clean and safe plumbing which is hygienic and convenient. The actual toilet doesn't smell because the waste is quickly removed from the house - not sitting around for 24 hours. Not to mention, you don't have to care about its feelings.
-You might argue that she could have other subs or partners for those things. But at what point during dating do you bring up the fact that you keep a retiree in a box of poop in the basement? It's going to hamper her love life significantly, most likely put a stop to it. Not to mention the possible loss of friends if they find out, loss of employment etc... People might accept finding out you're into spanking and handcuffs but I think it's safe to say the general public would be less accepting of you keeping a man in a box of poop.
- The logistics of having space to keep you in (away from prying eyes) and adequate facilities for disinfecting both you and the box would limit people practically.
- You don't care if you get sick and die. But this woman then has your corpse to dispose of. Think there won't be an investigation when the circumstances of your illness and death come to light? Why put herself through that? I can see someone going in for occasional toilet play but this play is guaranteed to end in a massive headache for her (at best).
- Having feces lying around for 24 hours from multiple people (at the very least hers and yours, possibly more in the multiple-woman example) means she's being exposed to huge amounts of foreign bacteria every toilet trip. You're risking her health too.
- It appears you haven't tried this. Can you honestly say you won't be miserable? You won't be disgusted? You can deal happily with infected bedsores and constant GI issues? With no human contact, no leisure time, no variety? Even without the shit, that level of isolation would be enough to have a serious impact on your mental health. At what point could it be said that you were no longer fit to consent to this treatment - another legal nightmare.

So tell me - do YOU think this is a realistic fantasy? It seems from my point of view she gets two advantages - financial support and the joy of pooping on you. Even if you find the biggest human-toilet enthusiast in the world, it seems like she's taking on a lot more burdens than pleasures.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/25/2014 10:26:33 AM

davezzo

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All, thanks for responding. And thanks for the reality check, I appreciate it.

Couple if things: the fantasy I outline is from another user, [removed by Moderator}", not mine. However it plays right into my need for objectivization, humiliation, and degredation. My question to the community here was 'are these things possible'. The answer seems to be "no". So user [removed by Moderator] is either a fake or crazy?

If it were to happen, obviously if would have to be something the Lady wants to do. Not for me, but for herself. The win-win would be our kinks would be complimentary. By the response I'm guessing the odds of finding such a Woman are akin to the odds of winning Powerball without buying a ticket.

As for "not having tried it" - no, I have tried it. There's a prodomme on here who knows me well. Ive lived full time, too, as a slave in a polyamorous house (but without full toilet). However I understand the points made above, you're telling me full time along the lines described by user [removed by Moderator] is better left as fantasy, not something to seek as a future goal. I appreciate everyone's honesty (o but the power if fantasy!!).

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/25/2014 11:01:50 AM

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I might more charitably say that the user in question was using the internet to role play a fantasy, rather than fake or crazy. That's one of the joys of the internet, you can be whoever you want to be in a way that real life won't allow.

I hope you find someone with a compatible kink. It's not common amongst women but that doesn't mean they aren't out there. It's just that as with other types of extreme 24/7 fantasies, most people don't have the resources or the inclination to devote their entire lives to a single fetish. You would get similarly negative responses if, for example, you wanted to be kept in an outhouse living as a pony 24/4, or chained in the basement as a torture slave with no down-time. Objectification is hot, but ultimately humans are more than inanimate objects and need and want more rounded and varied lifestyles.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 11:32:54 AM

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Why have the mods not bleeped out the profile name of the person the OP mentions?

Spy

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 1:06:01 PM

Spiritedsub2

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-fr

I'm still new enough to ask: is this shit (no pun intended) for real? Do people live like this?

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 1:55:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

-fr

I'm still new enough to ask: is this shit (no pun intended) for real? Do people live like this?

Quite a few less than claim to.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 1:57:43 PM

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Why hasn't the government established RDAs on this shit?

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 2:03:22 PM

RockaRolla

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It seems you've made the common mistake of many male subs new to this site, and assumed that your particular kink would appeal to most dominant women. Toilet service, ballbusting, sissification, and other kinks that can cause severe harm/humiliation tend to fall into this trap.

Believe it or not, many women are not waiting around for the opportunity to abuse some poor male. And the ones who do would be turned off by the fact that you enjoy it.

That isn't to say that there aren't women out there who enjoy your kink. It's just not as common as you assume. And you'll have a hell of a time finding someone who's into it 24/7. That's an extreme fetish that leads to severe health risks that you are well aware of (and choose to ignore.) That's a big step to take with someone who will die quickly from the complications. Your "sizeable social security check" won't mean as much to them then, especially if they're found to be responsible for your death.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 2:12:44 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: davezzo

First: This is in no way a personal add! I am still a few years away from being able to make this happen. I seek information and advice from the wise Mistresses here, hoping 1 or two are kind enough to reply.

I have some advanced kinks. For example, full toilet service to one or more strong Dominant Women. Literally to live in the waste of several Woman 20+ hours a day. This from a user named {removed by Moderator}, "...You see a male toilet slave in this Woman’s family lives in the basement of our home in a box the size of a coffin. Its whole body is in the toilet not just its head. The toilet box is lined with plastic and it lives in the waste of the family. Any Woman, is allowed to use the male toilet slave at any time. At the moment, there are no men living here and there may never be. But there are my four daughters and I, and I can assure you that you will be used and trained as our toilet for the rest of your miserable life...". if I found myself in such a situation it would be my life's fulfillment.

This Woman speaks of keeping her Toilet in the box 22 hours a day, only coming out briefly to clean my box (my home!), clean myself, and to get some real exercise. If I were lucky to have it all, I'd hope to receive some brutal punishments during the time out of the box, too.

So my questions: I'd be perfectly happy exchanging my sizeable social security check (I'm 6 years away from retirement) if the recipient could accommodate me in a fashion similar to that described bu [removed by Moderator]. Are there Woman out there who might find such an arrangement attractive? How does one find them?

PS/ I am aware of and accept the health risks - its my strong desire to retire into this lifestyle even if that means a rather short retirement. :(

Thanks for reading this. I look forward to any response that, if I'm lucky, might come my way...?

*Blinks*
*Rubs eyes*
*Blinks*
OK....OP....f you want a very slow death of salmonella poisoning, infection and high fever and a number of other ways then yes, I'm sure some maniac body modification inclined wackjob who would also circumcise you with a rusty spoon would be happy to indulge. And people didn't believe that some of these subs actually insist on doing stuff like this and some D who thinks this is viable might actually try to indulge.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 2:15:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: SpyUnderCover

Why have the mods not bleeped out the profile name of the person the OP mentions?

They like to make people cry.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 2:54:16 PM

davezzo

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I love you guys. Really, I do! You all are right: impossible kink to realize in reality without fairly huge complications for all involved.

Putting the specific kink aside, are there not full timers who (for example) spend most of their time in (say) chains or in a cage? I really don't know, I'm just curious.

I speak above about living full time in a polyamorous household. Heck, most of the time my Lady would take me to the movies, or out to diner. When we went out as a family it was usually to a favorite dance club. Torture time, though somebody was getting beaten everyday, was actually quite limited. However, in the back of my mind I always wanted more. I married, had children, divorced, and now I'm approaching retirement pretty much free of encumbrances. Living a severely diminished life under a Dominant or several Dominants has appeal. The borrowed fantasy above has its appeal. But I too thought of "bedsores" and the inconvenience of, well, dying while in service. I just wanted to test the possibility here. I see its not possible (I did/do know its 1 in a million kink, hard to fill even even in milder forms).

I remain curious, though, about how extreme a Ds BDSM couple can take things and still be sane? Anyone?

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 3:03:04 PM

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It's one of those things I think is great in a fantasy sense, but not really practical in real life. For one, it's a huge responsibility...and a drain...to care for someone who is chained or caged. It's also a liability in a legal sense too. I'm not going to be smiled on if my house burns to the ground and they find some dude dead in a locked cage in my basement. For another, humans are social creatures by nature (most are anyway). It might be great fun to fantasize about being locked away. But it's quite another if it makes you start going a little bit batshit crazy in the mind.

It's honestly more you putting your kink on someone else in a sense. You are wanting this extreme way of living. If she is into that too, great. If not, then she has a lot of work added to her plate caring for some dude who wants to live his life chained or caged. It's not making life easier, but adding a burden to her.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 3:08:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: davezzo
Putting the specific kink aside, are there not full timers who (for example) spend most of their time in (say) chains or in a cage? I really don't know, I'm just curious.

...

I remain curious, though, about how extreme a Ds BDSM couple can take things and still be sane? Anyone?

I'm sure there are, though they wouldn't be in a position to come here and tell us about it. The question would be whether they're doing so of their own free will or are coerced into it. For every sub who sincerely wants to live a diminished life there are easily three psychos who intend to make someone live that life with little regard to their needs. Even then, there are concerns for the sub's long-term care and risks associated with being caged.

For you next question, define "sane." I think their sanity would have less to do with what kinks they practice and more to do with how they avoid risks and address anything that might go wrong.

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 6:45:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: davezzo

First: This is in no way a personal add! I am still a few years away from being able to make this happen. I seek information and advice from the wise Mistresses here, hoping 1 or two are kind enough to reply.

I have some advanced kinks. For example, full toilet service to one or more strong Dominant Women. Literally to live in the waste of several Woman 20+ hours a day. This from a user named {removed by Moderator}, "...You see a male toilet slave in this Woman’s family lives in the basement of our home in a box the size of a coffin. Its whole body is in the toilet not just its head. The toilet box is lined with plastic and it lives in the waste of the family. Any Woman, is allowed to use the male toilet slave at any time. At the moment, there are no men living here and there may never be. But there are my four daughters and I, and I can assure you that you will be used and trained as our toilet for the rest of your miserable life...". if I found myself in such a situation it would be my life's fulfillment.

This Woman speaks of keeping her Toilet in the box 22 hours a day, only coming out briefly to clean my box (my home!), clean myself, and to get some real exercise. If I were lucky to have it all, I'd hope to receive some brutal punishments during the time out of the box, too.

So my questions: I'd be perfectly happy exchanging my sizeable social security check (I'm 6 years away from retirement) if the recipient could accommodate me in a fashion similar to that described bu [removed by Moderator]. Are there Woman out there who might find such an arrangement attractive? How does one find them?

PS/ I am aware of and accept the health risks - its my strong desire to retire into this lifestyle even if that means a rather short retirement. :(

Thanks for reading this. I look forward to any response that, if I'm lucky, might come my way...?

"Ad" (add is to increase....more than before).

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RE: Retire into Servitude - Possible? - 8/26/2014 6:47:23 PM

LookieNoNookie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: davezzo

First: This is in no way a personal add! I am still a few years away from being able to make this happen. I seek information and advice from the wise Mistresses here, hoping 1 or two are kind enough to reply.

I have some advanced kinks. For example, full toilet service to one or more strong Dominant Women. Literally to live in the waste of several Woman 20+ hours a day. This from a user named {removed by Moderator}, "...You see a male toilet slave in this Woman’s family lives in the basement of our home in a box the size of a coffin. Its whole body is in the toilet not just its head. The toilet box is lined with plastic and it lives in the waste of the family. Any Woman, is allowed to use the male toilet slave at any time. At the moment, there are no men living here and there may never be. But there are my four daughters and I, and I can assure you that you will be used and trained as our toilet for the rest of your miserable life...". if I found myself in such a situation it would be my life's fulfillment.

This Woman speaks of keeping her Toilet in the box 22 hours a day, only coming out briefly to clean my box (my home!), clean myself, and to get some real exercise. If I were lucky to have it all, I'd hope to receive some brutal punishments during the time out of the box, too.

So my questions: I'd be perfectly happy exchanging my sizeable social security check (I'm 6 years away from retirement) if the recipient could accommodate me in a fashion similar to that described bu [removed by Moderator]. Are there Woman out there who might find such an arrangement attractive? How does one find them?

PS/ I am aware of and accept the health risks - its my strong desire to retire into this lifestyle even if that means a rather short retirement. :(

Thanks for reading this. I look forward to any response that, if I'm lucky, might come my way...?

Dave, the ammonia issues alone are enough to cause health hazards.

Seek help.

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