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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:19:11 PM   
NorthernGent


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You at least should know that this is only a small minority of the Muslims in the UK.


More British Muslims fight for ISIS than for the UK.

What % of the UK is now Muslim?

You do know that adherence to religion takes precedence over loyalty to a nation, right?



Somewhere around 3.5%.

Adherence to a religion is freedom of expression.

In this country, it is not mandatory to hold a flag as the absolute cornerstone of your life, and quite right too. To each their own, providing you live by the laws of the land.


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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:19:55 PM   
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I did say the girls were looking for love, some even claimed they loved the victim,


Quite a revealing remark there, I think.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:20:27 PM   
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another dipshit not read the report


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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:21:09 PM   
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Really disgusting to see the lengths to which some people will go to minimize and rationalize evil.


It is realy kewel the lengths to which some people will go to prove what a phoquing moron they are.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:28:24 PM   
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I did say the girls were looking for love, some even claimed they loved the victim,


Quite a revealing remark there, I think.


I think so too. One has to wonder how you missed the discussion about that very thing. Since it has been explaned in excruciating detail your post begs the question why have you chosen to resurect this issue? Do you have some purient interest in pressing this concept that you think that it was the victims fault? That they deserved it? How does this serve to further the discussion except to feed your purient interests.
Why don't you take your opinions on this matter and infect someone of your own ilk.


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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:31:59 PM   
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I did say the girls were looking for love, some even claimed they loved the victim,


Quite a revealing remark there, I think.


It was a mistype, as you should have got from reading the whole post on page five.

It should have read some of the victims claim they loved the perpertrator.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:33:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
Somewhere around 3.5%.

Adherence to a religion is freedom of expression.

In this country, it is not mandatory to hold a flag as the absolute cornerstone of your life, and quite right too. To each their own, providing you live by the laws of the land.


And there is where the problem lies.... An awful lot of British Muslims regard British law as secondary to their own religious and cultural law.
I've pointed this out elsewhere.

And you may think it is a very small minority.
Speaking to Muslim friends and Muslim legal people (a female Muslim solicitor who deals with this shit on a daily basis), it is far more common than you think.


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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:56:25 PM   
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"Tolerance" is the only "value" openly, consistently prized by the left.
That of course includes the tolerance of evil.

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ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 1:57:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
Somewhere around 3.5%.

Adherence to a religion is freedom of expression.

In this country, it is not mandatory to hold a flag as the absolute cornerstone of your life, and quite right too. To each their own, providing you live by the laws of the land.


And there is where the problem lies.... An awful lot of British Muslims regard British law as secondary to their own religious and cultural law.
I've pointed this out elsewhere.

And you may think it is a very small minority.
Speaking to Muslim friends and Muslim legal people (a female Muslim solicitor who deals with this shit on a daily basis), it is far more common than you think.



Sorry mate but I'll base my opinions on criminal statistics and personal experience rather than second hand anecdotes.


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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:02:24 PM   
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Am I the only one who wonders how much of the cover-up may have been, one way or the other, caused by Muslims in policy-making positions at the appropriate agencies?

It seems that an awful lot has been ignored as a matter of policy....

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:12:21 PM   
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It is there, plain and simple.


Sure it is.
Maybe in the penumbra.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:16:33 PM   
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but they do contain an above average share of racists, Islamophobes, homophobics and mysogynysts


Out of idle curiosity: is there anyone who broadly and generally disagrees with you on anything more substantive than lawn care who does not fall into at least one of those categories?

Never mind, PS, it's rhetorical.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:29:05 PM   
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And hating a reprehensible religion is nothing to be ashamed of. Whats curious is how Islam's apologists live with themselves, knowing what they know.


No, actually, that's what's shameful.

(Who's on first, what's on second, lol)

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:35:13 PM   
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I am clearly and proudly Islamaphobic.
I am aware that you hilariously believe that makes me racist.



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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:39:26 PM   
truckinslave


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Adherence to a religion is freedom of expression.


I have no clear notion of how to translate that into something comprehensible.

One might imagine you mean something like: " The legal right to worship as one chooses is a function of freedom of expression", but even that would be wrong. Freedom of religion is a function of... freedom of religion.


So, I cannot translate it.


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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:42:32 PM   
truckinslave


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It should have read some of the victims claim they loved the perpertrator.


I'm more sure that it should than I am that it should have.

Freudian slips are revealing, and all of us who pay attention know that you generally view Muslims to be victims.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 2:43:40 PM   
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So, I cannot translate it.



Then I can't help you, mate. You need to work this one out for yourself.


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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 3:36:57 PM   
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We have few rules in the Feisty sections, but I am currently seeing a need for one or two more. It has been a rare occurrence when I have found someone insinuating that someone was a ‘criminal’ or someone that encouraged, took part or enabled ‘criminals’ and ‘criminal activity’, but when I have, it has been removed from the forum. Now, creating a guideline for this could get tricky because many will ‘interpret’ anything we come up with from a personal standpoint that could get complicated or shall I say, nitpicky.

So, for the moment and especially on this thread, if you are tempted to accuse someone that is not personally involved in the thread ‘news’ or ‘situation’, of taking part, being a party to, allowing, encouraging or involved because of where they reside or any other 'factoid', you will face moderation. It is as simple as that. Complicate it and that would be on you, not moderators or staff, to interpret as you do or to explain further by way of arguing ‘points’.

If in any manner I believe you are insinuating that someone uninvolved in this ‘news’ is a party to or encouraging it, that is what staff will be working from.

Just don’t do it.

I may have to post this on every page until everyone gets it, but I am serious about this. Choose your words any way you must, to assure you aren’t insinuating that someone is a party to this in any manner.

Thank you for your compliance as we move forward.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 3:38:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
Somewhere around 3.5%.

Adherence to a religion is freedom of expression.

In this country, it is not mandatory to hold a flag as the absolute cornerstone of your life, and quite right too. To each their own, providing you live by the laws of the land.


And there is where the problem lies.... An awful lot of British Muslims regard British law as secondary to their own religious and cultural law.
I've pointed this out elsewhere.

And you may think it is a very small minority.
Speaking to Muslim friends and Muslim legal people (a female Muslim solicitor who deals with this shit on a daily basis), it is far more common than you think.



Sorry mate but I'll base my opinions on criminal statistics and personal experience rather than second hand anecdotes.




Me too Freedom. That wasnt the case when I lived in London and it isnt the case in Sussex either.

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RE: Rotherham child abuse and the cover up - 8/31/2014 3:56:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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but they do contain an above average share of racists, Islamophobes, homophobics and mysogynysts


Out of idle curiosity: is there anyone who broadly and generally disagrees with you on anything more substantive than lawn care who does not fall into at least one of those categories?

Never mind, PS, it's rhetorical.


I am talking about UKIP, you should know that as you trimmed my quote. Not many UK posters have argued with me on the matter, but I guess you are an expert on UKIP now.

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