FieryOpal
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal Again, I respectfully request, please cite which Christian scriptures do you derive your source(s) in the New Testament teachings? The Old Testament is not Christian. It contains Messianic prophecies, but predate Jesus Christ by at least 400 years (per the Book of Malachi). I have never seen a christian bible without the ot. The bible and the koran... same same ...gotta take it all or none. Me, I have no dog in this fight, I am an athiest. History is replete with the chronicles of wars of agrandisement cloked in the garments of religion. Then you haven't studied the Protestant Reformation, or the life of Martin Luther? If not, then you have a huge gap in your knowledge base if you were not acutely aware of this major historical event and its wide-reaching ripple effects. Just 40-45 years ago, military chaplains were handing out KJV New Testament bibles (in the middle of which is the Book of Psalms for prayers), which is what was given out in Sunday School to all Christian children regardless of denomination. Those Protestants who choose to take the path of in-depth Bible Study, and those denominations & sects which value the prophetic tradition, study both since the NT contains passages concerning Jesus fulfilling the Messianic prophecies, mainly in the Books of the Prophets. Considering that this was not common knowledge to you, then how can you base your opinions about Christianity when, admittedly, you are not able to differentiate between Catholic and Protestant doctrine? Basically all of your assumptions (and those like you) about Christianity are half-arsed ones. quote:
ORIGINAL: PeonForHer Wow, I didn't know that. Did Jesus trash the Old Testament, then, and say that we should all ignore it? If so, why's it still in the Bible? It says on lots of my official documents that I'm a Christian, but I've always thought that implied I bought into the whole of the Bible. I wonder if this kind of major mistake is made by people of other religions, too? Given that you are British, you do know how the Anglican Church of England came about under King Henry VIII? How it broke away from the (Mother) Catholic Church? Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 (ESV-English Standard Version): “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." ("Abolish" in Greek kataluo, literally means “to loosen down," and in classical Greek, it was used in connection with institutions, laws, etc., to convey the idea of “to invalidate.”) When you study any discipline, you refer back to earlier sources through the lens of your modern, more comprehensive understanding of the subject matter or this particular field. Back in my father's day, you worked your way up in Engineering by becoming a Surveyor and surveying roads, drawing up or detailing maps (not necessarily to the extent of being a cartographer), a Draftsman drawing up blueprints, then you studied Architecture and designed structures. Blueprints were drawn by hand, there were no electronic calculators. Now all of that graphic design is computerized. Getting back to calculators, do we rely upon them solely and not learn the basic fundamentals of mathematics or of mathematical theory anymore?
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