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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 4:31:32 PM   
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Yes. The record is called the Koran.



Then why is it that muslims promote Islam as a religion of peace?




Possibly because those promoting it want peace.



No they pretend to promote peace because the Koran tells them to use subterfuge to make their way into the confidence of the non-believer so that they can strike from within. It is in the Koran.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 4:33:46 PM   
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How about if I stop using the word racist and just use the blanket term "hateful pricks" ?



Cant you all just feel the love thats oozing out of this peaceful, enlightened man


I have no love for racists, homophobes and other haters........ Do I need to spell it out to you.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 4:34:24 PM   
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Do you similarly believe that Naziphobia is also racism



Usually, a 'phobe' has an opposite, a 'phile', so I'm scratching my head wondering are there any Naziphiles out there? You know, it was all just a bit of fun and providing you weren't Jewish, a gypsy, a Slav or a homosexual and you didn't mind these people watching every second of your existence then they weren't a bad lot really.

Except, the Nazis made racial doctrine as their reason for being, it underpinned their entire domestic and foreign policy; whereas the muslim bloke down the street isn't thinking that he's in a war of extermination with the white bloke next door.



Always the voice of reason in these forums. Sign of maturity and intelligence....good on you mate.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 4:39:42 PM   
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please excuse me if I take her word over your bullshit.

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Again the (deliberate?) misuse of language.
You are taking her word over the definitions provided from oxford dictionaries (and over any definitions you can find in any actual dictionaries).
She clearly is not an unbiasd source; neither are you.
Dictionaries are unbiased sources.

I disagree with those who say you are acting stupid.



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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 4:51:21 PM   
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I disagree with those who say you are acting stupid.




Look out PS, he's got a catchphrase!

If he uses it 3 times before midnight you'll turn in to a pumpkin, or your cat will turn into a gremlin or something.

Any man who thinks one of his quotes should stand proudly next to one of Einstein's is clearly a force to be reckoned with........

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 4:52:27 PM   
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please excuse me if I take her word over your bullshit.



Again the (deliberate?) misuse of language.
You are taking her word over the definitions provided from oxford dictionaries (and over any definitions you can find in any actual dictionaries).
She clearly is not an unbiasd source; neither are you.
Dictionaries are unbiased sources.

I disagree with those who say you are acting stupid.




Did you not read the part where she said there is no equivalent word, so Muslims take the term islamist as offensive ?


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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 4:57:40 PM   
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I disagree with those who say you are acting stupid.




Look out PS, he's got a catchphrase!

If he uses it 3 times before midnight you'll turn in to a pumpkin, or your cat will turn into a gremlin or something.

Any man who thinks one of his quotes should stand proudly next to one of Einstein's is clearly a force to be reckoned with........


Einstein must be having a chuckle at the very thought of it.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 5:04:43 PM   
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While I was studying for the priesthood I am pretty sure that came up.

ROFLMMFAO

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The only basic opinion I have about all religion is that I am an adult and I do not need an imaginary friend to make me feel special.

Hey, hold on there a minute ... I thought I was your imaginary friend.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 5:10:06 PM   
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Getting back to calculators, do we rely upon them solely and not learn the basic fundamentals of mathematics or of mathematical theory anymore?


Ah yes, that's what I thought. A bit like you still need to know the alphabet even though you're writing in modern English.

So, the Old Testament *is* essential to Christianity. Thanks for confirming that, Fiery - and for not feeding me a lot of tiresome old convoluted cotton wool like religion-fans generally do.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 5:12:24 PM   
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I have no love for racists, homophobes and other haters........ Do I need to spell it out to you.



This, from he who defends the ideology which springs forth some of the most extreme intolerance never known

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 5:17:17 PM   
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[FieryOpal:] Getting back to calculators, do we rely upon them solely and not learn the basic fundamentals of mathematics or of mathematical theory anymore?

Ah yes, that's what I thought. A bit like you still need to know the alphabet in though you're writing in modern English. So, the Old Testament *is* essential to Christianity. Thanks for confirming that, Fiery - and for not feeding me a lot of tiresome old convoluted cotton wool like religion-fans generally do.

No sweat. You're well-read and/or learned, so I figured you of all fellows would grasp that elemental concept easily enough.

Except that I'm concerned these young whipper-snappers won't know how to manage without all this modern technology. There better not be a zombie apocalypse looming in our future horizon.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 6:12:22 PM   
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I simply do not care what she, or other Islamists, find offensive.

I do not think you're acting stupid

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 6:24:39 PM   
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All I'm saying is the Nazis made racial doctrine as their reason for existence, and even the least objective of people can surely see this is not the case with Islam.


Actually, that's partly true, although they hated both other races and at least one religion.
Muslims make religious doctrine (aka hatred of other religions) their raison d'etre.
They are not necessarily any more racist than I am.



No Muslim is a Muslim if he doesn't believe in Jesus Christ. Muslims strongly believe in him, they believe that he (Jesus) was the mightiest messengers of God.

And Muslims do believe in the four main Holy Books, including the Torah

For the record, I’m not a believer of any religion, neither I’m an atheist.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 6:37:58 PM   
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The only basic opinion I have about all religion is that I am an adult and I do not need an imaginary friend to make me feel special.

Hey, hold on there a minute ... I thought I was your imaginary friend.

There is nothing imaginary about you.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/1/2014 6:40:52 PM   
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I do not think you're acting stupid


I don't think you are acting either.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/2/2014 1:12:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dear oh dear! It's sad to see so many people confused by a simple question - what is the correct way to describe a particular form of hate. It's a bit like arguing over whether a particular killer is a psychopath or a sociopath when the pressing task is to ensure the public is properly protected from the monster.

Some people, including our sorry excuse for a PM here Abbott try to justify their militarism by claiming the other side is "pure evil", a "death cult" yadda yadda yadda ...... The alarm bells really ought to ring loudly when such absurd rhetoric is trotted out to justify more foreign intervention in the ME, to 'fix' the problem the West itself caused by its own intervention(s). IS are a revolting bunch of thugs, but to assert they are "pure evil" is as silly as to claim the West as "pure goodness".

Hate is hate. The same hatred motivates the jihadi as those who are so vehementally opposed to Islamism that they proudly proclaim their hate by describing themselves as "Islamophobes". The same single minded obsessiveness, the same black and white picture of the world, the same absolutist claims underlying their fanaticisms.

Hate is hate, and always a problem, never a solution.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/2/2014 4:41:54 AM   
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I have no love for racists, homophobes and other haters........ Do I need to spell it out to you.



This, from he who defends the ideology which springs forth some of the most extreme intolerance never known


More trolling from you brains........ Did you miss all my posts where I talk about Muslim terrorists, or were you just unable to follow a grown up conversation.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/2/2014 5:11:41 AM   
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This, from he who defends the ideology which springs forth some of the most extreme intolerance never known

Your religious ideology is pretty well steeped in intolerance. Wasn't a christian who murdered the daughter of chief joseph?

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/2/2014 5:25:20 AM   
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More trolling from you brains........ Did you miss all my posts where I talk about Muslim terrorists, or were you just unable to follow a grown up conversation.



You condemn the few notorious individuals who get caught or are otherwise in the spotlight while cuddling with the underlying ideology "terrorists" use to justify the real war on women and the worldwide Islamic "holy war" on everyone who has committed the fatal sin of failing to convert to Islam

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/2/2014 5:26:48 AM   
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Really, "stupidity" should hurt, A LOT.

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