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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/11/2006 8:22:29 PM

MasterFireMaam

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Yes, there is a full moon (tonight, July 11, 2006)...and, if you're into astrology (I'm not really, but my girl is), mercury is in retrograde.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/11/2006 8:25:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Yes, there is a full moon (tonight, July 11, 2006)...and, if you're into astrology (I'm not really, but my girl is), mercury is in retrograde.

Master Fire

Dang retrograde!

Happens every time. Thing shifts, and the nuts come out of the woodwork.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/11/2006 8:38:12 PM

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Dammit, i knew it! When I woke up this morning, I turned to my dom and I said "Daddy, I have the funniest feeling that mercury is in retrograde." He waved me off, saying, "Nonsense, little one, nonsense! I traded in that mercury weeks ago!"
But I was right.
I knew it.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/11/2006 8:56:33 PM

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Well, I came here really to see if any other subs could give me advice on how to deal with these particularly flaky subs, as I'm very new to the scene. I didn't, in any way, mean to insinuate that all subs are like that. And it's true that I didn't take the time to get to know 2 of them... what had happened was I got to know the first one pretty well, and felt pretty let down that he blew me off... so my frustration built, and so did the need to unleash it with someone. So I was hasty with the other two, and with making my post. Thanks for all the advice though.........and in retrospect, I've definitely learned my lesson not to rush into these things.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/12/2006 4:03:08 AM

mymasterssub69

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perhaps your subs are married and don't want the wife to know their little dirty secrets or they had family events to attend - anything is possible

i have 2 male pets who are like that both are married and would very much like to keep their secret a secret

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/12/2006 3:27:39 PM

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ORIFINAL:Karboncopy

Yes, we're all fakes.

We all (every single one of us) just come onto sites like this because we all know freaky fetish chicks are easy.

Me thinks I should have played harder to get.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/12/2006 4:59:27 PM

kinkiminx

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I'm not a male sub, but its likely to be a little of each of all the reasons you can think of. A lot of guys around are just looking for sex, though there are genuine subs around, many of them are shy and would want to get to know you better and get comfortable with each other before meeting up.

Some people will chat you you and agree to something just to "test the water" and see what you're like. Then if they decide you're not compatible, the wimps don't have the guts to say so and block you! lol

You even get vanillas replying for a joke... Not everyone is fake, but then just as in any other scene not everyone is genuine, its often about learning how to spot the bad eggs without discounting the genuine guys.

Good luck, and don't give up there are genuine subs out there!

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/13/2006 5:31:22 PM

Owned1

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of course some are fake, as in all walks of online life. Who knows some of the "male subs" were kids, females, or goodness knows what. However perhaps moving slower, from chat to phone calls to meeting for coffee is the better way to go. If you get a fake phone number then at least you know. As well once you have spoken with them on the phone you have a better idea who they are. Just remember, if you are given a cell number, a work number or I will call you and it comes from a blocked number suspect, suspect suspect. Do not ignore your inner voice and keep your eyes open for flags of any colour that wave.

Dont give up patience is always rewarded

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 1:27:32 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owned1

of course some are fake, as in all walks of online life. Who knows some of the "male subs" were kids, females, or goodness knows what. However perhaps moving slower, from chat to phone calls to meeting for coffee is the better way to go. If you get a fake phone number then at least you know. As well once you have spoken with them on the phone you have a better idea who they are. Just remember, if you are given a cell number, a work number or I will call you and it comes from a blocked number suspect, suspect suspect. Do not ignore your inner voice and keep your eyes open for flags of any colour that wave.

Dont give up patience is always rewarded

I wouldn't think anything bad of a cell phone number - for me, it's the only reliable way to get in touch with me, other than email! So, that's what I give someone when we are taking it past the email/online chat stage. Plus, it has the advantage of being the best way to reach me if for some reason my prospective is running late on the way to the meeting (car trouble, traffic, etc.). I saw some notes on here saying take it slower - like 6 months. If we click on chat, then phone, then the next thing is to meet - I wouldn't think any longer than a month would be necessary. If you truly TALK about interests/issues/concepts/etc. and not just "cyber sex" chat, you should be able to learn most of what you need to make a decision whether the person is worthy of a face-to-face chat.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 5:03:14 AM

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If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Sounds like bad luck though - let's hope it works out eventually :D

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 5:09:29 AM

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Yes I have to agree on the cell number. I only have a cell and no landline. So unless you are getting in touch with me via chat program, email, or cell you aren't getting ahold of me.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 5:26:17 AM

littlesarbonn

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owned1

of course some are fake, as in all walks of online life. Who knows some of the "male subs" were kids, females, or goodness knows what. However perhaps moving slower, from chat to phone calls to meeting for coffee is the better way to go. If you get a fake phone number then at least you know. As well once you have spoken with them on the phone you have a better idea who they are. Just remember, if you are given a cell number, a work number or I will call you and it comes from a blocked number suspect, suspect suspect. Do not ignore your inner voice and keep your eyes open for flags of any colour that wave.

Dont give up patience is always rewarded

I'm not sure how good this type of advice is because it's somewhat ancient. I gave up my land line. I ONLY have a cell phone these days. The current state of phone service in this country is leading to more and more people doing exactly the same.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 5:28:52 AM

ScooterTrash

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ORIGINAL: eventhescars

Honestly, I don't know. Saturday I made plans with a sub, he blew me off by blocking me from his aim. Yesterday I made plans with another sub, he never called back. Tonight I was supposed to meet a different one, who's now not answering his phone. Honestly, what is it? Do you guys get scared at the last minute, or are you fake from the get-go? What kind of thrills do you get out of that? All three of these subs seemed completely sincere, and they were the ones who actually suggested meeting in the first place, so I really don't get it. Any insight?

Your experience is not unique..we have had similar experiences and even on the flip side, have even had some show up to find that they are not what they profess to be, don't know which is worse. I do have to feel that for a male to actually be submissive, may be more rare than for a female to fit into the same role...not insinuating anything, just an observation. I haven't discounted the possibility that there are those who are submissive and male...but have yet to witness it. Many folks (any orientation) do disappear when faced with the possibility of a face to face meeting...it's just something that happens...who knows why? Think of it this way...at least they didn't delete delete their profile yet, we've seen that happen many times when we find someone that lives close enough for a personal visit. Just keep plugging away...and good luck.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 6:50:36 AM

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Actually we’re all fakes. Alright, the jig is up fellas. They’re on to us. Let’s scram.

LMAO... Welcome to the message boards joshua... good start!

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 10:27:06 AM

MysticFireTopaz

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ORIGINAL: eventhescars
Well, I came here really to see if any other subs could give me advice on how to deal with these particularly flaky subs, as I'm very new to the scene. I didn't, in any way, mean to insinuate that all subs are like that. And it's true that I didn't take the time to get to know 2 of them... what had happened was I got to know the first one pretty well, and felt pretty let down that he blew me off... so my frustration built, and so did the need to unleash it with someone. So I was hasty with the other two, and with making my post. Thanks for all the advice though.........and in retrospect, I've definitely learned my lesson not to rush into these things.

I think you are wise to slow it down a bit before setting up a real time meeting. I like to see a consistent pattern of someone honoring his word and living up to his commitments for at least a few weeks. For example, if I set up a time to chat online with him, and he is there as he said he'll be, that sends a positive message. If he flakes out even for that (unless he has a good reason--things do come up), that sends quite another message. If I set up a time to talk on the phone with him and he is there as agreed and answers his phone, that helps build My trust. If he decides something else is more important, blows it off (again, without a good reason), and I get a voicemail, that is very telling. I think getting to know a person for a period of a few weeks helps weed out the flakes. If the submissive cannot gain My trust and confidence through dependable behavior online and over the phone, I won't meet him in real time.

That being said, I am in favor of meeting a prospective submissive reasonably soon (to Me that means after a few weeks or a month, rather than say, six months). I have heard time and again of people investing a substantial amount of time in a relationship online and over the phone, only to meet in person and find that there is no "chemistry," or that the person is entirely different in person.

You might also find the "Poof boys" thread under Ask a Mistress helpful. It has some insights as to why male subs pull the disappearing act. And like I said in my post on that thread and others have said here, the behavior is not unique to male submissives. Female submissives, Female Dominants, male subs, male Dominants, and switches have all been known to do the same thing.

Lady Topaz

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/16/2006 1:41:57 PM

Curiossdragnlily

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i am truly sorry that this has happened to You. Most all of the male subs that i know are sincerely and honestly looking for their One Dominant or Domme.
with respect,
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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/20/2006 7:05:20 AM

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lol, not all males are fakes but i imagine the blokes often dont have enough nerve to see it through when the fatefull day comes. as im sure Yyou can respect, it takes a lot to admit to being a sub/slave, especially the potential the Dom/mes can have. im sure the subs had their reasons, but an email or phone call wouldve been nice, rather than blanking You. im sure you will find a genuine sub/slave who isnt a cheat or player after a quick wank online, as some probabbly dont get the commitment that they have to give, maybe reading profiles might help???? cos obviosly most donot, or are selectively illiterate.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/20/2006 8:47:27 AM

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Well, you've discovered why there are so many rants about "fakes" amd "wannabes" and "pretenders". They do tend to mess things up for those who are genuinely searching for something in real life. Put in your bullshit filter and keep on trying is all I can tell you to do.

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/22/2006 6:20:57 AM

slavebrent

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IMO there are a lot of male subs that are fake. Most just want to get there rocks off then after they do that there submission is gone. They use and abuse just like some doms. Male and female. To me interviewing is the key. talk with them online then meet them. If they don't show up well maybe something happened with them maybe not. Call them the next day if they avoid you, then they are not interested any more.

I hope you do find some one who cares and is honest. I hope one day i find the Domme of my dreams who cares and is honest.

Take care and well wishes

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RE: Is it just me, or are most male subs just fakes? - 7/22/2006 9:30:52 AM

coca

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if You are the One , they lose You , You are not loosing them...
but to be honest , Ds needs patience...

regards
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