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Should Terrorism Be Censored?


Yes. We don't need to see that.
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No, we have every right to be fully aware of these things.
  44% (11)
It can't possibly matter either way, can it?
  4% (1)
Yes, deny terrorists their fame.
  40% (10)


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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/8/2014 4:13:01 PM   
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*pssst.....Obama is Bush Lite.....*



You really should update that talking point, Muse. Obama is Chocolate Nixon with regard to ethics, and extra-strength Carter on incompetence. For dodging the responsibilities of his office though, he's setting a benchmark of his very own.

All the more reason, actually. Bush/Cheney were about bringing back the power of a Nixon presidency, and Bush merely set the course Obama is following by and large -- to both their discredit, or in your terms, incompetence.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/8/2014 5:44:35 PM   
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It might help if either of you put any meat on the bones of what you're saying.

Also, you respond to him as if he's got rational reasons for his opinions, but when called on the carpet -- he can never give you any.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/8/2014 5:48:38 PM   
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I think it's clear whores have values and standards, whatever they are. It's why they can command a price in the market.

As for "curtailing Americans' freedoms as a response to barbarity," let's start by dismantling the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Theater.



Totally for it. Also ending the Kabuki theater that we call airport security.


And substituting Israeli-style security. Real profiling. It actually works. Now if we actually defeated Islam, we wouldn't need that at all. But because we appease, IMO, we need something, just not what we've got today.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/8/2014 5:53:56 PM   
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Psst, dumbass... Bush and Obama are two entirely different people

Worlds apart


Yup...one has big ears and is fairly articulate the other one ain't.



Close. One, otherwise known as "The One Under Whom The Seas Shall Recede, Thus Enabling Him To Golf On The Beach" has big ears that nevertheless are incapable of hearing or processing anything said outside of his own utterances and is fairly articulate when reading speeches written by others. The other has smaller ears that actually listen to people and is fairly articulate when speaking off the cuff. They both spend too much though, by a lot.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/8/2014 5:55:25 PM   
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And that I like being bad




He doesn't look bad; he looks like a fucking idiot.

Walk round like that for a few minutes and he'll end up locked up.


LizardMan is still walking around: http://www.thelizardman.com/

Maybe when he tries to trifurcate his tongue that will be it for him.



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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/8/2014 7:01:04 PM   
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It might help if either of you put any meat on the bones of what you're saying.

Also, you respond to him as if he's got rational reasons for his opinions, but when called on the carpet -- he can never give you any.

It's been six years. I think if he's not on top of it by now, he's not going to get it.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/8/2014 7:13:54 PM   
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Muse, Cloudboy has elected to permanently remove himself from the list of people I'm willing to engage in any sort of conversation with. Don't encourage his delusions that I'd give him so much as directions out of a burning building.



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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:25:27 PM   
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Muse, Cloudboy has elected to permanently remove himself from the list of people I'm willing to engage in any sort of conversation with.

Since when have you engaged in civil conversation with anyone who disagreed with you?


Don't encourage his delusions that I'd give him so much as directions out of a burning building.

That surely is because you are such a good christian.




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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:26:37 PM   
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Badness is in the eye of the beholder.

Actually badness is the punk who does not get his ass whipped.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:30:39 PM   
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maybe where YOU come from, (UK was it) here in St Louis he'd be accepted as one of those quirky people


tried to find pics but apparently there are none to be found, but there is a black (possibly gay)

You don't know but because you are homophobic you have to put your bigoted opinion up for us to notice...thanx we all know who you are.


man that prances and dances along Kingshiway Ave here every day dressed in a tiara, powder blue tutu, complete with wand... either people/police don't care, or he has ALOT of money to pay his fee/fines cause he is there EVERY DAY


Is it against the law where you live, for someone you believe to be gay, to play dress up?

the odd part, or the part that would make it seem worrisome, is that he does it across the street from barnes/jewish children's hosptial


So now in addition to you thinking he is gay you also seem to think he is a child molester. Yup the phrase punkassmotherucker perfectly fits a punk with this mindset.


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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:37:13 PM   
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And substituting Israeli-style security. Real profiling. It actually works. Now if we actually defeated Islam,


You want to wipe out a billion and a half people?


we wouldn't need that at all. But because we appease, IMO, we need something, just not what we've got today


It would appear that you are in favor of snuffing a billion and a half people. How very christian of you.


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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:42:13 PM   
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Close. One, otherwise known as "The One Under Whom The Seas Shall Recede, Thus Enabling Him To Golf On The Beach"


Besides you and your mom who else knows him as that?



has big ears that nevertheless are incapable of hearing or processing anything said outside of his own utterances

Just which occupant of 1600 pensylvania ave was different?


and is fairly articulate when reading speeches written by others.

Which resident of 1600 pensylvania avenue has ever written his own speeches?


The other has smaller ears that actually listen to people

Who besides carl rove?


and is fairly articulate when speaking off the cuff.

"is our children learning"



They both spend too much though, by a lot.

Perhaps that is because there is no difference between them. We are still in the sand box and we are still in gitmo. Same shit different flies.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:46:46 PM   
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And substituting Israeli-style security. Real profiling. It actually works. Now if we actually defeated Islam,


You want to wipe out a billion and a half people?

No, I am more optimistic -- and more accurate -- than Paul Ehrlich. I do want to wipe out an ideology that is adhered to by 1.5 billion people and that is poisonous, yes. Most of the 10-30% of Muslims who explicitly endorse violent jihad will endorse something else. Most of the 95% of Muslims who remain silent will continue to do so. As for the tens to hundreds of thousands actively perpetrating violent jihad, yes, I would love to see them all meet Allah tomorrow. Even more, i would love to see their disappointment when they expect to meet Allah and instead meet something akin to Buddy Hackett naked, not quite the 72 virgins, you know. Since credulity is the hallmark of such believers, wouldn't it be nice if we convert them all into some harmless creed, like say thompsonism


we wouldn't need that at all. But because we appease, IMO, we need something, just not what we've got today


It would appear that you are infavor of snuffing a billion and a half people. How very christian of you.\]

I am not a Christian. (It's sometimes hard not to quote Bertrand Russell.)




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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:52:34 PM   
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maybe where YOU come from, (UK was it) here in St Louis he'd be accepted as one of those quirky people


tried to find pics but apparently there are none to be found, but there is a black (possibly gay)

You don't know but because you are homophobic you have to put your bigoted opinion up for us to notice...thanx we all know who you are.

nothing homophobic about noting his actions lean towards the stereotypical "gay" and yet not jumping to the conclusion he is SURELY gay...
but you PRETEND it means anything that fits YOUR VIEW.


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man that prances and dances along Kingshiway Ave here every day dressed in a tiara, powder blue tutu, complete with wand... either people/police don't care, or he has ALOT of money to pay his fee/fines cause he is there EVERY DAY


Is it against the law where you live, for someone you believe to be gay, to play dress up?

I'm not the one who said a person you played dress up in public would he locked up, matter of a fact if you were able to read English I REFUTED that conclusion in that post

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the odd part, or the part that would make it seem worrisome, is that he does it across the street from barnes/jewish children's hosptial


So now in addition to you thinking he is gay you also seem to think he is a child molester. Yup the phrase punkassmotherucker perfectly fits a punk with this mindset.

I never said I thought he was gay, I did note there was a possibility he was gay, if had the comprehension skills of a grade school child you'd know the difference. I mentioned his proximity to a children's hospital because IF the authorities were going to be concerned about his actions, surely being around children would heighten that concern.




please reply, give the very few people who haven't put you on ignore something else to laugh at!



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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 12:54:48 PM   
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Close. One, otherwise known as "The One Under Whom The Seas Shall Recede, Thus Enabling Him To Golf On The Beach"


Besides you and your mom who else knows him as that?

He and Himself. Michelle. Probably Valerie Jarrett. I'd guess about the 10-15%of the population who are Obama acolytes. It's pretty much his term, you know.

has big ears that nevertheless are incapable of hearing or processing anything said outside of his own utterances

Just which occupant of 1600 pensylvania ave was different?

While most Presidents have some narcissistic traits, Obama is a pathological narcissist, as evidenced by his inability to accept disagreement without getting incrediblity irritated and angry; his pathological use of the first person pronoun, his desire to insert himself into every conversation or speech, etc. It would be hard to find one who compared. LBJ may have been an arrogant, SOB and prick, but he did listen to you before punching you in the mouth. Obama is sui generis.
and is fairly articulate when reading speeches written by others.

Which resident of 1600 pensylvania avenue has ever written his own speeches?

Reagan wrote a number of them. In the days before speechwriters, almost all Presidents did. I leave it to historians to indicate when that trend changed, but certainly from the Republic's founding through most of the 1800's and probably the early 20th century. Or did Ben Rhodes actually write the Gettysburg Address?

The other has smaller ears that actually listen to people

Who besides carl rove?

Rove is a blowhard who is often wrong. It's not worth my time to defend him.
and is fairly articulate when speaking off the cuff.

"is our children learning"


Incoherent speech is worse than ungrammatical speech and I'm a grammar Nazi.
They both spend too much though, by a lot.

Perhaps that is because there is no difference between them. We are still in the sand box and we are still in gitmo. Same shit different flies.

The fundamental difference is ideology. Bush loved America. I think Carter once did, including when he was President. Obama is anti-Western, anti-American. So he's much worse.



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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 1:11:58 PM   
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nothing homophobic about noting his actions lean towards the stereotypical "gay" and yet not jumping to the conclusion he is SURELY gay...

Your homophobic bias says this is stereotypical "gay" not the real world. Own your bigotry


man that prances and dances along Kingshiway Ave here every day dressed in a tiara, powder blue tutu, complete with wand... either people/police don't care, or he has ALOT of money to pay his fee/fines cause he is there EVERY DAY


Is it against the law where you live, for someone you believe to be gay, to play dress up?

I'm not the one who said a person you played dress up in public would he locked up,

"man that prances and dances along Kingshiway Ave here every day dressed in a tiara, powder blue tutu, complete with wand... either people/police don't care, or he has ALOT of money to pay his fee/fines cause he is there EVERY DAY"

The bolded part gives lie to your statements.


the odd part, or the part that would make it seem worrisome, is that he does it across the street from barnes/jewish children's hosptial


So now in addition to you thinking he is gay you also seem to think he is a child molester. Yup the phrase punkassmotherucker perfectly fits a punk with this mindset.

I never said I thought he was gay,

You lying punk you did so.
"there is a black (possibly gay)"


I did note there was a possibility he was gay,


But you did not say that you thought it was untrue. You said it to diminish a black man playing dress up. You are a homophobic bigot. The fact that you would like to put some mascarra on that pigish behaviour is clear.



if had the comprehension skills of a grade school child you'd know the difference. I mentioned his proximity to a children's hospital because IF the authorities were going to be concerned about his actions, surely being around children would heighten that concern.


Only because you think he is a gay child molester. Not just gay but also a child molester. Clearly the thought process of a punkassmotherfucking homophobic bigot. If you do not like being called on your shit then perhaps you should wipe your ass and stop shitting in your mess kit.


please reply, give the very few people who haven't put you on ignore something else to laugh at!

Funny how those who have me on ignore know what I post. They just have not the balls or the intellect to respond with anyhing but insults and homophobic bigoted bullshit. Not at all unlike you.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 1:29:27 PM   
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Close. One, otherwise known as "The One Under Whom The Seas Shall Recede, Thus Enabling Him To Golf On The Beach"


Besides you and your mom who else knows him as that?

He and Himself. Michelle. Probably Valerie Jarrett. I'd guess about the 10-15%of the population who are Obama acolytes. It's pretty much his term, you know.


So far we got just you and your mom.


has big ears that nevertheless are incapable of hearing or processing anything said outside of his own utterances

Just which occupant of 1600 pensylvania ave was different?

While most Presidents have some narcissistic traits, Obama is a pathological narcissist, as evidenced by his inability to accept disagreement without getting incrediblity irritated and angry; his pathological use of the first person pronoun, his desire to insert himself into every conversation or speech, etc. It would be hard to find one who compared.

It is good that you acknowledge your ignorance but it would mot be a difficult search to find those who surpassed him in arrogance. Washington and jefferson come to mind quickily as do jackson and both rossevelts. Polk and tyler are in a class by themselves one moves a hooker into the white house while his wife is dying then marries a teenager after her father died in a "tragic" explosion from which tyler was conspicuously absent the other starts a war that nearly doubles the size of the u.s.



LBJ may have been an arrogant, SOB and prick, but he did listen to you before punching you in the mouth.

When exactly did lbj ever have the balls to use his fists on anyone besides his wife?


Obama is sui generis.

and is fairly articulate when reading speeches written by others.

Which resident of 1600 pensylvania avenue has ever written his own speeches?

Reagan wrote a number of them.

I think you are mistaken so I will ask for some sort of validation.


In the days before speechwriters, almost all Presidents did.

I had asked you to tell me which presidents did not use speach writers...Monroe had j.q. adams to write many of his speeches and all of the ones concerning the monroe doctrine. This is not a new phenomenea. For you to ascribe it to this big eared looser is historically incorrect.


I leave it to historians to indicate when that trend changed,

I am and I just did. It was not a trend. It was and is common practice. Buchannan never uttered a word that was not scripted for him except to his boy friend.

but certainly from the Republic's founding through most of the 1800's and probably the early 20th century.

The word "probably" indicates that you have no clue aboout that which you speak.



The other has smaller ears that actually listen to people

Who besides carl rove?

Rove is a blowhard who is often wrong. It's not worth my time to defend him.
and is fairly articulate when speaking off the cuff.


So the only one he listened to was in your opion a moron. Wouldn't it stand to reason that if the only advice you listened to came from a moron that you would be a moron?


"is our children learning"


Incoherent speech is worse than ungrammatical speech and I'm a grammar Nazi.
They both spend too much though, by a lot.

Perhaps that is because there is no difference between them. We are still in the sand box and we are still in gitmo. Same shit different flies.

The fundamental difference is ideology. Bush loved America. I think Carter once did, including when he was President. Obama is anti-Western, anti-American. So he's much worse.

Besides you and your mom who else believes that he is anti amerikan? What precisely has he done besides being a member of the possie you ain't

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 1:45:24 PM   
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Which resident of 1600 pensylvania avenue has ever written his own speeches?

Reagan wrote a number of them. In the days before speechwriters, almost all Presidents did. I leave it to historians to indicate when that trend changed, but certainly from the Republic's founding through most of the 1800's and probably the early 20th century. Or did Ben Rhodes actually write the Gettysburg Address?






Judson T. Welliver wrote for President Warren G. Harding in 1921 and is considered the first official presidential speechwriter.[4] However Alexander Hamilton may have written speeches for George Washington.[5]
Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. wrote for President John F. Kennedy.
Theodore "Ted" Sorenson wrote for President John F. Kennedy.
Richard N. Goodwin wrote for Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.
Pat Buchanan wrote for President Richard Nixon.
William Safire wrote for President Richard Nixon.
Ben Stein wrote for President Richard Nixon.
James Fallows wrote for President Jimmy Carter.[6]
Chris Matthews wrote for President Jimmy Carter.
Bob Shrum wrote for Senator Ted Kennedy.
Peggy Noonan wrote for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush.
Christopher Buckley wrote for President George H. W. Bush.
Michael Johns wrote for President George H. W. Bush.
Tony Snow wrote for President George H. W. Bush.
Michael Waldman wrote for Bill Clinton.
Charlie Fern wrote for First Lady Laura Bush and President George W. Bush
David Frum wrote for President George W. Bush.
Michael Gerson wrote for President George W. Bush.
William McGurn wrote for President George W. Bush.
Marc Thiessen wrote for President George W. Bush.
Jon Favreau wrote for President Barack Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speechwriter

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 1:49:01 PM   
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Which resident of 1600 pensylvania avenue has ever written his own speeches?

Woodrow Wilson

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/11/2014 1:51:42 PM   
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Which resident of 1600 pensylvania avenue has ever written his own speeches?

Reagan wrote a number of them. In the days before speechwriters, almost all Presidents did. I leave it to historians to indicate when that trend changed, but certainly from the Republic's founding through most of the 1800's and probably the early 20th century. Or did Ben Rhodes actually write the Gettysburg Address?





Thank you. That would support my suggestion that, with some exceptions, speeches were self-written prior to the 20th century.


Judson T. Welliver wrote for President Warren G. Harding in 1921 and is considered the first official presidential speechwriter.[4] However Alexander Hamilton may have written speeches for George Washington.[5]
Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. wrote for President John F. Kennedy.
Theodore "Ted" Sorenson wrote for President John F. Kennedy.
Richard N. Goodwin wrote for Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.
Pat Buchanan wrote for President Richard Nixon.
William Safire wrote for President Richard Nixon.
Ben Stein wrote for President Richard Nixon.
James Fallows wrote for President Jimmy Carter.[6]
Chris Matthews wrote for President Jimmy Carter.
Bob Shrum wrote for Senator Ted Kennedy.
Peggy Noonan wrote for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush.
Christopher Buckley wrote for President George H. W. Bush.
Michael Johns wrote for President George H. W. Bush.
Tony Snow wrote for President George H. W. Bush.
Michael Waldman wrote for Bill Clinton.
Charlie Fern wrote for First Lady Laura Bush and President George W. Bush
David Frum wrote for President George W. Bush.
Michael Gerson wrote for President George W. Bush.
William McGurn wrote for President George W. Bush.
Marc Thiessen wrote for President George W. Bush.
Jon Favreau wrote for President Barack Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speechwriter




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