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Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 4:24:12 PM   
ArtOfWorship


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I feel there is gold inside of everyone and I have found mine, but what's the point of mining it out when I'm already happy with nothing.


My question is for Dommes, How much effort are you willing to put into a slave to get them to work for you?

I know the natural order, Women are attracted to a mans survivability not the potential.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 4:46:00 PM   
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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 5:05:01 PM   
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I guess I would ask, how long and hard would you work with a slave till you see a reward?

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 5:10:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Funny, I thought the very nature of the slave was the reward.

I sit corrected

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 5:34:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe it is something completely different. Would a Queens knight be a slave? Was Michelangelo a slave to the pope? Are we not all a slave to a higher power, he who holds the Money?

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 5:37:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's what I thought too, ET. But you have to turn it into a full-time job apparently. I already have one of those. I don't want to have to come home and work even more. Id much rather devote my time to someone who had to be prodded along

OP, I get that your schtick is to get forced into doing things. And maybe there are people out there who will rise to that. But you will find that many will find better things to do with their time than force you.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 6:20:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ArtOfWorship

Maybe it is something completely different. Would a Queens knight be a slave? Was Michelangelo a slave to the pope? Are we not all a slave to a higher power, he who holds the Money?


As a rule, I tend to be the asshole that holds the money, so I'm always on the proper side of the kneel. Now, I've owned things that people would sell their mothers to just use for an afternoon. I've seen things and done things most people just read about and ask, is that real. All of the money I have, had, and ever will, as well as the awesome things I've done, are insignificant compared to a truly devoted slave. I'd happily trade all I've done and own for a truly devoted slave... It just so happens I may not have to make that trade to be so blessed.

Once you've transcended the "idea" of a slave, slavery, D/s, M/s and have embraced the reality of it... D synergized by the very essence of /s, utopia arrives, all else is moot.

Jus sayin

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 7:21:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		If he doesn't work for me, then he doesn't, and we're not a match. It's that simple.

That's not to say that there isn't always room for improvement -- there is. I actually enjoy being a part of someone reaching their highest potential. I like helping people grow, stretch, and learn. I'm willing to put as much effort into that as they are.

But if we're starting from a mismatch? If I have to force things to get what I want? If he wants to sit back while I take all the responsibility and solve all the problems alone? No. HELL no.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 9:20:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ArtOfWorship
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I know the natural order, Women are attracted to a mans survivability not the potential.

How can you say this? and please define potential. Potential (success) as a man? Potential as a mate? Potential as a submissive?

Which begs the question. You claim that you "want to be stalked and hunted." Your fantasy then is to catch the eye of a Dominant woman who will then take it upon herself to stalk you. Now, why would she do that? To wrest your submission from you? In what world does this happen? No Dominant woman has to go around stalking men. We have plenty of willing contenders.

How disingenuous of you then, that you believe you can pick and choose what type of woman would stalk you? You certainly don't want an unattractive woman forcing herself upon you, do you? No, of course not. She has to be an attractive Domme, that you couldn't get on your own.

Sitting around waiting on front-door service ain't gonna happen, dude. Wake up your lazy (donkey) ass and smell the coffee; get your wits about yourself. You're going nowhere fast with this fantasy construct.

[Edited for missing word]

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 9:48:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ArtOfWorship

Maybe it is something completely different. Would a Queens knight be a slave? Was Michelangelo a slave to the pope? Are we not all a slave to a higher power, he who holds the Money?


Oh, this sounds vaguely familiar. I've heard it here before, I just wish I could remember where.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/11/2014 9:59:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aphrodite5

If he doesn't work for me, then he doesn't, and we're not a match. It's that simple.

That's not to say that there isn't always room for improvement -- there is. I actually enjoy being a part of someone reaching their highest potential. I like helping people grow, stretch, and learn. I'm willing to put as much effort into that as they are.

But if we're starting from a mismatch? If I have to force things to get what I want? If he wants to sit back while I take all the responsibility and solve all the problems alone? No. HELL no.

This, exactly.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/13/2014 10:45:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

quote:

ORIGINAL: ArtOfWorship
<snip>
I know the natural order, Women are attracted to a mans survivability not the potential.

How can you say this? and please define potential. Potential (success) as a man? Potential as a mate? Potential as a submissive?

Which begs the question. You claim that you "want to be stalked and hunted." Your fantasy then is to catch the eye of a Dominant woman who will then take it upon herself to stalk you. Now, why would she do that? To wrest your submission from you? In what world does this happen? No Dominant woman has to go around stalking men. We have plenty of willing contenders.

How disingenuous of you then, that you believe you can pick and choose what type of woman would stalk you? You certainly don't want an unattractive woman forcing herself upon you, do you? No, of course not. She has to be an attractive Domme, that you couldn't get on your own.

Sitting around waiting on front-door service ain't gonna happen, dude. Wake up your lazy (donkey) ass and smell the coffee; get your wits about yourself. You're going nowhere fast with this fantasy construct.

[Edited for missing word]


I'm just quietly applauding here!

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/13/2014 12:56:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		After reading your profile it's obvious that in your head it's all about you. The world of beautiful Dommes isn't going to beat a path to your door on the basis of a couple of insinuations, by yourself, of how special you are.

If you are truly that special gem that you think you are, you'll have to do some work to find someone who feels the same way in order to get anything close to what you are looking for. I have to say though I think you're in a losing proposition here - Dommes have too many other men vying for their attention that might actually do something for them instead of having to cater to your narcissism. In other words, as it's been said, it seems as though you'd be much too much work for a relatively low return.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/13/2014 3:36:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well according to your journal entries you compared yourself to Michelangelo. And you expect women to hunt you down, according to your initial post, although I no longer see that on your profile. Those two factors come across as very narcissistic. You also do a lot of complaining about how women are only on here "to get their rocks off." In my experience if a woman wanted to get her rocks off she wouldn't be scouring a website as most women can literally walk down the street and some guy will try to pick them up.

You talk about how you want a muse and how you are such a talented artist seeking a Domme. Yet you spend so much energy whining about them. As a Domme one if my biggest peeves is when potential submissives constantly complain about women. I'll even take it a step further. That's one of my biggest peeves about men in general. If you have that big of a problem with women then I don't want to be involved with you. I don't need the negativity.

Going back to your OP, I would spend very little time chasing down a man. As others have stated if the compatibility isn't there, why waste time? Women can afford to be picky. In the BDSM world Dommes can be even pickier because the odds are in our favor. Why would we work our asses of to get something that we can effortlessly find? This is why I stated you seem narcissistic. You think you are such a spectacle that women should be knocking down your door to get to you. Unless you're secretly Ryan Gosling I'm gonna say you might want to try to look at things a little more realistically.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/14/2014 9:39:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been chased down a couple of times, but most of the time my successes have come from doing the chasing down myself and proving to someone that I'm capable of being what she wants and desires. Waiting for someone is a futile exercise in frustration (and not the good kind). As I got older, I found that my seeker's sights narrowed quite extensively as I discovered that as I grew as a submissive, I was also realizing that what I was seeking was pretty specific as well. It's a lot harder finding what you seek when you seek something very specific, but once you go the specific route, you discover that you probably saved yourself a lot of time and hassle by pursuing what's right instead of what's right in front of you.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/14/2014 11:32:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FriendlyMuppet

I've been chased down a couple of times,

OP, you need to pay special attention here. ^^There are male subs who have paid their dues, have beaucoup D/s experience, come with glowing references, and have integrity of character, like Muppet.^^

He is the kind of sub that Dommes will *fight* over, one who walks the walk, and has the heart of a submissive, not some fantasist keyboard wanker.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/14/2014 11:53:42 AM   
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He/she is full of gold glorious bounty that stuff that will fetch me many fine muffins and a six pack of sex crazed nymphomaniacs recently escaped from the local nymphorium - on muffinbay (patent pending)

Do you mean good or love for the correct person this lot frankly went the way of the dodo(I can explain this it would take too long so i wont)
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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/15/2014 1:25:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


quote:

ORIGINAL: FriendlyMuppet

I've been chased down a couple of times,

OP, you need to pay special attention here. ^^There are male subs who have paid their dues, have beaucoup D/s experience, come with glowing references, and have integrity of character, like Muppet.^^

He is the kind of sub that Dommes will *fight* over, one who walks the walk, and has the heart of a submissive, not some fantasist keyboard wanker.



But then, why is he still single? Some subs fall into the trap of the "mister nice guy" of male subs. Lots of femdoms say he is a catch but they befriend him rather than romanticize or sensualize him as a partner. This is a serious problem for some subs who are service oriented and end up getting "friendzoned" by femdoms rather than get sensually/sexually or romantically intimate. Lots of femdoms are cheerleaders for this kind of sub, but no one seems to be flying him out to meet and courting him and taking him off the market (him in general, not specific).

The OP may have ruffled the feathers of a few, but there's something to be said for a little confidence and even a little sass -- when appropriate.

Do 'nice guy subs' finish last? I think they do, sadly. Because they get a TON of positive feedback and kudos from femdoms who tell them how awesome they are, but won't date them. They are friendzoning them and encouraging their "too safe" style of approaching femdoms as the likable, reliable, nice-guy sub who everyone says is a diamond in the rough but no one is lining up to take him off the market.

Tell it like it is, ladies. If you are serious, date him and report back. Distance shouldn't be an issue. If I could pick up a guy from another country then surely someone is willing to take a risk here.

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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/15/2014 1:40:03 PM   
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RE: Pushing Talent, a Dommes Gold mine - 9/15/2014 1:41:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

But then, why is he still single?
<snip>

I can't answer that yay or nay. Have you PM'd to see if that is indeed the case? He just recently relo'd from Michigan to Texas, from what I understand.

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