smileforme50
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Keep punishing poor people for being poor... history shows how fucking successful that route has been.
If you want to talk about where the waste is then let's discuss the defense spending that is out of control, and the fucking wars and shit we have been fighting for the last decade or more. Let's talk about corporate welfare and the waste of taxpayers money. Let's talk about the Pentagon never being audited as mandated by Federal law because no one there wants to get into that clusterfuck and find out where there is a ton of waste. But please, let's stop programs for the poor and downtrodden because that is fucking wasteful.
They are not punishing them for being poor, as nature intended. The politicians are rewarding them for being poor, while collecting their votes in return for destroying them in a mutually destructive cycle
"War on poverty" - look it up.
"As nature intended"? As nature intended what? Nature intended for people to be poor....or to be punished for being poor?
Nature intended for things like pain and hunger to be motivating factors in behavior
But just because you're in pain doesn't mean that you are the one that has the power to do something about it. Sometimes all you CAN do is ask someone else for some help. If we were all able to relieve our own pain and solve our own problems without help from others, we wouldn't need doctors and nurses in the world. There ARE times when someone doesn't have the power or ability to solve their own problems, and all they CAN do is let someone else take care of them. Not all....hell....not even MOST people who receive public financial assistance are sitting back with their feet up taking "handouts".
Where I work we hire a lot of mentally challenged people for menial jobs....custodial work, laundry, food service. These people put in their 40 hours every week....they aren't lazy by any definition of the word. But they still get financial assistance, food stamps, section 8 and anything else available to them. Most of them don't even pull in a GROSS salary of $20K a year.
Not everybody has a college education at their fingertips.....financially or physically....or mentally for that matter.
Back in 1993 I was making over $45K a year, I had a nice apartment, a new car, a job I enjoyed and I was starting to save for a house. I suddenly got laid off and was lucky enough that I could move back in with my mother. (If Mom wasn't around I would have had to get all kinds of public assistance). I decided to find a more secure career and went to nursing school. I was working 2 part time jobs for a total of 35 hours a week and going to school full-time. Between working (making minimum wage) and going to school I was getting by on an average of 4 hours of sleep a night. This prolonged period lack of sleep for over 2 years triggered an epileptic seizure. The caused me to lose my driver's license (so I had to quit school less than 3 months before graduation). I also had to quit both of my jobs. The real shit of the bad timing of that seizure was that I also didn't have any medical insurance. So now I was out of 2 jobs, couldn't go back to school, couldn't drive and had to get rid of my car, and on top of that I had a $4000 hospital bill.
You know what? I am DAMNED lucky that my mother was still around and was able to give me a roof over my head and other financial assistance because if she wasn't, I would have made a bee line to get every drop of public assistance program money I could possibly get my hands on. Hell....I did manage to get Medicaid for a few years. I will tell you from personal experience that poverty is a very bad vicious circle and very difficult to get out of unless you are blessed with some amazing talent that most other people don't have.....and/or have an amazing stroke of luck ....something else most people in these situations don't have.
I am living proof that just because you work your ass off doesn't mean you ARE going to get out of a bad situation. And I can tell you from firsthand experience that there are a LOT of people out there who work their asses off and still barely keep their heads above water. And there are a lot of other people out there who see these people working their asses off and not getting anywhere in spite of it. As far as I'm concerned, you can't help but watch all these people "running in place"....and wonder to yourself "why bother?" So yes...I'm sure there are people out there who see a large number of "working poor" (because yes...just because you are poor doesn't mean you are a welfare queen...in spite of what you might think) and voluntarily decide to not bother going through the hassle and headache of working to have the same (or even lower) standard of living.
The icing on top of all this is the cost of college tuition. Most jobs that pay over $30K require a college education or some advanced technical training. People are seeing now that they can't afford it...so they are stuck with their high school education. Getting out of a cycle of poverty is next to impossible without some extra education or training.
But you're poor...so you can't afford college....
But if you don't go to college...you will never get a job that pays well enough to get you out of poverty...
But if you're poor....you can't afford college....
But if you don't go to college...you will never get a job that pays you well enough to get you out of poverty...
See the pattern?
If we got rid of all those programs all we would have would be an even larger homeless population.
So unless you can come up with a better idea....because God know the Repubs don't want to help anyone out with college education (and housing and health care and everything else they need while going to school) ...then you're just going to have to put up with an even larger number of people suffering an even greater degree of poverty.
I doubt you milk the system for all its worth like so many do
And actually no, you don't need to suckle government teat to attend college. I went to college on my own dime, and I wasn't wealthy by any means. There are ways for "the poor" to lift themselves up that don't involve making government bureaucrats fat
And people don't appreciate free shit. When I was going to college the people with the free rides fucked off a hell of a lot more than people like me who were working to pay their own way. Because they graded on a curve and so many people were so wasted all the time, didn't show up and barely tried I made honors with minimal effort
Its much the same with "free" health care. Its abused from the top to the bottom, there is practically endless waste in such programs. But thats okay, because the taxpayers have bottomless pockets, right?
Why are there still poor people if endless government spending can eliminate it. Because we have spent plenty already...
Yeah....when you went to college....what was that....25 years ago?? I paid my way through the FIRST time I went through too. The second time I tried to go to college I ended up in the hospital for 4 days, lost my driver's license and had to drop out. Nobody should have to put their health at risk in order to get an education.
And government secondary education spending has already been cut drastically. Back in the 80s, almost everyone I knew had at least part of a Pell grant. Most people gong to college now have never even heard of them.
Nobody ever said that government spending will eliminate the poor. But it does make it a smaller group that it would be without it. And health care spending on the poor? What? You actually WANT polio, measles, whooping cough and diphtheria to be common occurrences again? Like I mentioned before....I had to get on Medicaid after I was diagnosed with epilepsy. I would have never been able to afford the medication I need. Thank you for showing such kindness and compassion....I really appreciate it.
Well....at least it will save the rich from paying more taxes.....
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