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RE: Infrastructure Spending - 9/24/2014 7:30:17 PM

Musicmystery

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Muse, just an FYI to you and DesideriScuri - the vehicles that really put a pounding on our roads and bridges nationwide don't run on gasoline. 18 wheelers operate on diesel fuel almost exclusively.

Taxing gasoline to cover road wear and tear is becoming obsolete. Hybrid vehicles use less fuel, but are pretty damn heavy because of those batteries. Electrics are getting a complete pass. So would something like the compressed air powered cars that were a thing to talk about a few years back. We are going to need a better way to collect appropriate fees.

In the meantime, maybe we should jack up the fuel tax on the premium/higher octane gas required in many luxury and high performance cars. Just a thought.

*psst* Diesel is taxed as well.

I'm OK with flat out appropriating the funds -- but Congress isn't going to do that. They still think money appears by magic.

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RE: Infrastructure Spending - 9/24/2014 7:43:16 PM

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psst Diesel is not gasoline, is it?

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RE: Infrastructure Spending - 9/25/2014 3:26:24 AM

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I kind of like your idea of raising the funds through critical anger, snark, and denial. If your car doesn't hit a pot hole, maybe it doesn't exist.....

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RE: Infrastructure Spending - 9/25/2014 3:26:43 AM

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How do you people function in day to day life?

It falls under the same road tax use policy as diesel. So does kerosene legally, if you put it in your car instead of heating with it.

There's no one at the pump buying diesel cars to avoid taxes. Or if they are, they're not bright.

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RE: Infrastructure Spending - 9/25/2014 6:58:30 AM

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psst Diesel is not gasoline, is it?

We say gasoline, lazily, like we say tie our shoes, I forget the fallacy you are using here to focus incorrectly on a word, when the meaning is clear in context, and I am not going to bother looking it up.

http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/fuel-taxes/gasoline-tax

http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/fuel-taxes/diesel-tax

perfectly punctiliously phrasing the gravamen, MOTOR FUELS are taxed.

But here you go, I know it is pearls before swine.

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RE: Infrastructure Spending - 9/26/2014 12:03:23 PM

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Taxing gasoline to cover road wear and tear is becoming obsolete. Hybrid vehicles use less fuel, but are pretty damn heavy because of those batteries.

Someone is opening his mouth just to change feet again.
A tesla weighs about 4500 pounds. How does that compare to any other 4 door sedan

In the meantime, maybe we should jack up the fuel tax on the premium/higher octane gas required in many luxury and high performance cars. Just a thought.

Thought is something you never do before you open your mouth to insert your feet.
Modern luxury cars use regular gas because they have varriable valve timing.

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