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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 12:45:00 PM   
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You need to contact the site mods then because someone has hacked you account and is posting using your nick.

Nope you took something out of context and gave it a different meaning.
You are incapable of comprehending that the lack of perfection on his part does not mean the incident was his fault. I realize that this is difficult for you since you are perfect, but it is a distinction we mere mortals have to make.

I simply read what you wrote. There is no context surrounding that to change that to you not blaming Crawford. You tried some weasel words but come one do you really expect anyone to buy into that crap?

When I first mentioned it I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to think I meant it was his fault. I explained that as soon as I found out someone was.
You can pretend I thought it was his fault all you want but it doesn't make it true. The problem was that a gunaphobic paniced, like you would, and called in a false report. You even stated that the way you choose to view my statement was at odds with what I believe. If even you can see that couldn't have been what I meant why are you insisting on it.

Because I don't think it is at odds with what you believe. You're just letting one set of beliefs over ride another. You've been posting here a long time and your beliefs have been well demonstrated.

That is because you are a moron who will believe anything as long as it lets you attack your betters (which is almost everyone)

Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 12:55:17 PM   
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You need to contact the site mods then because someone has hacked you account and is posting using your nick.

Nope you took something out of context and gave it a different meaning.
You are incapable of comprehending that the lack of perfection on his part does not mean the incident was his fault. I realize that this is difficult for you since you are perfect, but it is a distinction we mere mortals have to make.

I simply read what you wrote. There is no context surrounding that to change that to you not blaming Crawford. You tried some weasel words but come one do you really expect anyone to buy into that crap?

When I first mentioned it I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to think I meant it was his fault. I explained that as soon as I found out someone was.
You can pretend I thought it was his fault all you want but it doesn't make it true. The problem was that a gunaphobic paniced, like you would, and called in a false report. You even stated that the way you choose to view my statement was at odds with what I believe. If even you can see that couldn't have been what I meant why are you insisting on it.

Because I don't think it is at odds with what you believe. You're just letting one set of beliefs over ride another. You've been posting here a long time and your beliefs have been well demonstrated.

That is because you are a moron who will believe anything as long as it lets you attack your betters (which is almost everyone)

Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.


Yes they are. I am way better than Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Megan Mahoney, the Boston Bombers, Nolan. I could go on.

But yes, some people are better than others.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 1:05:53 PM   
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Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.

What Aylee said.
If you don't have an inferiority complex you should.
Everyone is equal under the law.
You clearly consider yourself better than many others or you wouldn't be so free with terms like dumbass.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 3:22:03 PM   
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Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.

What Aylee said.
If you don't have an inferiority complex you should.
Everyone is equal under the law.
You clearly consider yourself better than many others or you wouldn't be so free with terms like dumbass.

No. You have demonstrated that you are dumb. I can't help that. That doesn't mean I would ever treat you as less than any one else.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 3:40:56 PM   
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Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.

What Aylee said.
If you don't have an inferiority complex you should.
Everyone is equal under the law.
You clearly consider yourself better than many others or you wouldn't be so free with terms like dumbass.

No. You have demonstrated that you are dumb. I can't help that. That doesn't mean I would ever treat you as less than any one else.

You called Thishereboi a dumbass repeatedly.
And you have never proven me to be dumb, you just claimed I was, usually while defending something unbelievably stupid.
And yes you treat everyone like they are your inferiors.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 4:06:34 PM   
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Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.

What Aylee said.
If you don't have an inferiority complex you should.
Everyone is equal under the law.
You clearly consider yourself better than many others or you wouldn't be so free with terms like dumbass.

No. You have demonstrated that you are dumb. I can't help that. That doesn't mean I would ever treat you as less than any one else.

You called Thishereboi a dumbass repeatedly.
And you have never proven me to be dumb, you just claimed I was, usually while defending something unbelievably stupid.
And yes you treat everyone like they are your inferiors.

I just had to explain a very basic concept of criminal law to you in another thread. One which you would have known had you actually read the link I'd previously provided. That's why I know you're very bright.

As to thb, the amount of time she spends either pretending not to get things or simply not getting stuff is astounding.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 4:53:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.

What Aylee said.
If you don't have an inferiority complex you should.
Everyone is equal under the law.
You clearly consider yourself better than many others or you wouldn't be so free with terms like dumbass.

No. You have demonstrated that you are dumb. I can't help that. That doesn't mean I would ever treat you as less than any one else.

You called Thishereboi a dumbass repeatedly.
And you have never proven me to be dumb, you just claimed I was, usually while defending something unbelievably stupid.
And yes you treat everyone like they are your inferiors.

I just had to explain a very basic concept of criminal law to you in another thread. One which you would have known had you actually read the link I'd previously provided. That's why I know you're very bright.

As to thb, the amount of time she spends either pretending not to get things or simply not getting stuff is astounding.

And I blew your explanation out of the water.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 5:21:15 PM   
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Your inflated sense of self is just another sign. No one is better than anyone else.

What Aylee said.
If you don't have an inferiority complex you should.
Everyone is equal under the law.
You clearly consider yourself better than many others or you wouldn't be so free with terms like dumbass.

No. You have demonstrated that you are dumb. I can't help that. That doesn't mean I would ever treat you as less than any one else.

You called Thishereboi a dumbass repeatedly.
And you have never proven me to be dumb, you just claimed I was, usually while defending something unbelievably stupid.
And yes you treat everyone like they are your inferiors.

I just had to explain a very basic concept of criminal law to you in another thread. One which you would have known had you actually read the link I'd previously provided. That's why I know you're very bright.

As to thb, the amount of time she spends either pretending not to get things or simply not getting stuff is astounding.

Now to get back to the thread (sort of) while I said that he was unwise to carry the pellet gun around like he did (some idiot might panic and do something to create a dangerous situation) exactly when did I state that it was his fault. Not what you interpreted, not what you wanted to believe I said, when did I say he was at fault? When did I say he brought it on himself, again, not your interpretation, but actually said it. You can't without doctoring my posts because I never said that. What's more even you know it.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 8:19:32 PM   
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If you're white, it probably would have been ok. It's not Whitey season yet.

Put a sock in it.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 8:51:38 PM   
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How about not shooting the guy until he had a chance to comply with their commands. You obviously haven't watched the video. I guess you were too busy whining to the mods that I was being mean.


yes I did watch the video but not surprised you would lie and claim I didn't. I also haven't communicated with a mod in months. But again not surprised you would lie and claim I did. Now please tell me why I should waste any more time with you?

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Sure. Then how come you seem to have no idea what actually happened that anyone who watched the video can plainly see? Is this another case of you simply being incredibly dumb?


Actually this was a case of you lying and pretending you know what other people think. Seems to be your mo lately.

No. You've made statements that indicate a stunning lack of knowledge of the events so it is reasonable to surmise that you have no knowledge of what is on the video.

Actually this was a case of you lying and pretending you know what other people think. Seems to be your mo.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/27/2014 9:38:38 PM   
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How about not shooting the guy until he had a chance to comply with their commands. You obviously haven't watched the video. I guess you were too busy whining to the mods that I was being mean.


yes I did watch the video but not surprised you would lie and claim I didn't. I also haven't communicated with a mod in months. But again not surprised you would lie and claim I did. Now please tell me why I should waste any more time with you?

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Sure. Then how come you seem to have no idea what actually happened that anyone who watched the video can plainly see? Is this another case of you simply being incredibly dumb?


Actually this was a case of you lying and pretending you know what other people think. Seems to be your mo lately.

No. You've made statements that indicate a stunning lack of knowledge of the events so it is reasonable to surmise that you have no knowledge of what is on the video.

Actually this was a case of you lying and pretending you know what other people think. Seems to be your mo.

Then explain how it is you don't know what is on the video?

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 2:37:41 AM   
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I feel sorry for the guy, and don't think he should have been shot. However, walking around with a gun in your hands, in public, pointing it all over the place, including in the general direction of people, is a really stupid thing to do. Maybe that was the last one, and there weren't any left in boxes, but if that had been me I think I'd have gone looking for a sales associate to see if maybe they had one still boxed. Or let him carry it to the front for me. No matter what, I wouldn't have gone wandering around the store with it like that.

I once bought a rifle case in NJ. They opened a Dick's Sporting Goods in my local mall and had some great sales going. I was wandering around, and noticed I was getting odd looks, so rather then cause trouble I took the case out to my car, then went back in and continued my shopping. There was no rifle, just a plastic case, and I'd have been perfectly within my rights to keep shopping, but it just seemed easier/safer to not do so.

Maybe the gentleman thought it was just a "toy" for his kid and didn't give a thought to how it might look to someone at a distance?

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 4:21:27 AM   
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I feel sorry for the guy, and don't think he should have been shot. However, walking around with a gun in your hands, in public, pointing it all over the place, including in the general direction of people, is a really stupid thing to do. Maybe that was the last one, and there weren't any left in boxes, but if that had been me I think I'd have gone looking for a sales associate to see if maybe they had one still boxed. Or let him carry it to the front for me. No matter what, I wouldn't have gone wandering around the store with it like that.

I once bought a rifle case in NJ. They opened a Dick's Sporting Goods in my local mall and had some great sales going. I was wandering around, and noticed I was getting odd looks, so rather then cause trouble I took the case out to my car, then went back in and continued my shopping. There was no rifle, just a plastic case, and I'd have been perfectly within my rights to keep shopping, but it just seemed easier/safer to not do so.

Maybe the gentleman thought it was just a "toy" for his kid and didn't give a thought to how it might look to someone at a distance?


i agree...when the story first broke...i thought the guy must have opened the box himself and was just being stupid...so i went into our local walmart to see just how they keep their bb guns and was shocked..there was 2 of them just laying loose on the shelf and a couple of the boxes were torn open where you could remove them easily...if you watch the second video i posted from the time he picked it up till the shooting...he never pointed the gun at anyone and walked past 2 sales associates ...none of the other customers seemed concerned either...i honestly believe they should be kept in a locked glass show case just as any other gun...

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 6:04:08 AM   
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You are the one claiming I never watched it so you tell us.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 6:10:27 AM   
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I feel sorry for the guy, and don't think he should have been shot. However, walking around with a gun in your hands, in public, pointing it all over the place, including in the general direction of people, is a really stupid thing to do. Maybe that was the last one, and there weren't any left in boxes, but if that had been me I think I'd have gone looking for a sales associate to see if maybe they had one still boxed. Or let him carry it to the front for me. No matter what, I wouldn't have gone wandering around the store with it like that.

I once bought a rifle case in NJ. They opened a Dick's Sporting Goods in my local mall and had some great sales going. I was wandering around, and noticed I was getting odd looks, so rather then cause trouble I took the case out to my car, then went back in and continued my shopping. There was no rifle, just a plastic case, and I'd have been perfectly within my rights to keep shopping, but it just seemed easier/safer to not do so.

Maybe the gentleman thought it was just a "toy" for his kid and didn't give a thought to how it might look to someone at a distance?


That was my thought also. If I were in a store looking at a gun off the shelf I doubt it would ever dawn on me that someone might think it was real. Well at least before this. Now I would think twice about it.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 8:54:04 AM   
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You are the one claiming I never watched it so you tell us.

No you made a clear statement showing you had no idea what happened. so I'm asking you why you commented on this event without watching the video?

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 10:45:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

I feel sorry for the guy, and don't think he should have been shot. However, walking around with a gun in your hands, in public, pointing it all over the place, including in the general direction of people, is a really stupid thing to do. Maybe that was the last one, and there weren't any left in boxes, but if that had been me I think I'd have gone looking for a sales associate to see if maybe they had one still boxed. Or let him carry it to the front for me. No matter what, I wouldn't have gone wandering around the store with it like that.

I once bought a rifle case in NJ. They opened a Dick's Sporting Goods in my local mall and had some great sales going. I was wandering around, and noticed I was getting odd looks, so rather then cause trouble I took the case out to my car, then went back in and continued my shopping. There was no rifle, just a plastic case, and I'd have been perfectly within my rights to keep shopping, but it just seemed easier/safer to not do so.

Maybe the gentleman thought it was just a "toy" for his kid and didn't give a thought to how it might look to someone at a distance?

When I made basically the same statement I was roundly berated for allegedly saying it was his own fault for getting shot and for being a racist. Hopefully they will see that you are just talking common sense. I still think the guy who called in the "inaccurate" report to 911 is primarily responsible for things getting out of hand.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 10:47:26 AM   
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You are the one claiming I never watched it so you tell us.

No you made a clear statement showing you had no idea what happened. so I'm asking you why you commented on this event without watching the video?

I didn't watch the video, which meant that until you accused me of being a racist I didn't know the victim was black.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 1:16:28 PM   
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You are the one claiming I never watched it so you tell us.

No you made a clear statement showing you had no idea what happened. so I'm asking you why you commented on this event without watching the video?

I didn't watch the video, which meant that until you accused me of being a racist I didn't know the victim was black.

That's not why.

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RE: Ohio walmart shooting - 9/28/2014 1:50:56 PM   
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You are the one claiming I never watched it so you tell us.

No you made a clear statement showing you had no idea what happened. so I'm asking you why you commented on this event without watching the video?

I didn't watch the video, which meant that until you accused me of being a racist I didn't know the victim was black.

That's not why.

Well since I didn't know the victim was black nothing I said could have been because he was black, surely even you can follow that. Which means your claim of making a race based decision was BS. And since I never said it was his fault this means that you made a stupid assumption based on another stupid assumption.

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