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KSA is governed by Islam, so yeah, you can pretty much equate them. I was just giving a couple of examples. I could also point out the number of Islamic countries where homosexuality receives a death sentence.

Remember, Islam is a political, social, and religious system.

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This is really a simple, clear difference. All people of all religions commit crimes. Muslims commit horrid crimes and justify them specifically using the Quran and the Hadiths. Imams often approve. When's the last time the Pope said a pedophile priest was carrying out Jesus's mission. You guys invert cause and effect.

That would have been quite recently actually.
Statements by Catholic priests, priest is the equivalent of iman not pope, excusing pedophile behavior:
http://fox4kc.com/2014/06/10/archbishop-said-in-deposition-that-he-didnt-know-if-sex-with-child-was-a-crime/
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/21/opinion/la-ed-abuse-20110521
http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/note-fr-groeschel-it-wasnt-kids-fault

And here is the previous pope saying that pedophilia was ok up until the 1970's
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/pope-benedict-declares-pedophilia-was-n

Ken, you and I don't often agree, but that is some seriously sick shit you posted. Didn't know it was a crime? Are you fucking kidding me?

Those were just the ones I could easily turn up. Some cardinal once claimed that much of the sex abuse was pederasty not pedophilia so that wasn't as bad. But I couldn't find a link for it.

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KSA is governed by Islam, so yeah, you can pretty much equate them. I was just giving a couple of examples. I could also point out the number of Islamic countries where homosexuality receives a death sentence.

Remember, Islam is a political, social, and religious system.

I think you will find the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is governed by the King. The clue is in the name. It is only recently that the Government has given the Clerics some more power, since around 1980 from memory. Another fact you will hate is only two Muslim Countries allow the Clerics into the heart of government. KSA and Iran.

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The answer is, No, the Jews can NOT follow all of the commandments because they have NO temple. (And to continually point out that they are bad Jews for not following all of their commandments due to this is rather insensitive.)

And different sects follow different numbers of the rules that they are ABLE to follow.

The one rule they do follow is citizenship before religion.

How absurd of you to make this about Jerusalem. It seems to me you forget your own words, how convenient of you.

Well they don't obey all of it. There are huge giant swaths of it that they do not obey. And it also depends on what kind of Jew you are talking about.

Seems to me you are making a generalisation about the Jewish people in general, so to introduce a strawman like you have is foolish.

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KSA is governed by Islam, so yeah, you can pretty much equate them. I was just giving a couple of examples. I could also point out the number of Islamic countries where homosexuality receives a death sentence.

Remember, Islam is a political, social, and religious system.

I think you will find the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is governed by the King. The clue is in the name. It is only recently that the Government has given the Clerics some more power, since around 1980 from memory. Another fact you will hate is only two Muslim Countries allow the Clerics into the heart of government. KSA and Iran.

You fucking moron, you will post anything, no matter how ridiculous. Saudi Arabia is run along strict Islamic lines

Period, end of story.

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Over a third of their rules/commandments/laws relate to the temple.

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Its not even that Peon. What gets me is the usual knee jerk reaction of deport all Muslims. Obviously the news from the rest of the world fails to reach some parts of the USA. Watching the debate in Parliament today or reading about the views of Muslims world wide isnt enough to educate some people.

There's an article somewhere in the Independent - possibly by Mark Steele - that zeroes in on the Christian Paedophile conspiracy. Garry Glitter, brought up a Christian; Jimmy Savile ... they all were. Yet we see no apology from Christians about this.

It's nonsensical dogshit. The phrase 'silent majority' has never had more of a crucial import than when referring to Muslims, right now, with the background of IS. 'Actions speak louder than words', it's said. Not true, apparently. Being peaceable, civilised and decent isn't enough on its own. The Muslim bloke who sells me my newspapers at the corner shop - he erroneously assumes that a polite smile and a 'thank you' is enough for me, when I buy my paper. It's not, of course. He should be giving me half an hour of how he doesn't condone the IS beheadings every time I call in for my newspaper. Just like I give him half an hour of how I don't at all approve of Savile molesting children, even though I, like Savile, was brought up a Christian.

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Over a third of their rules/commandments/laws relate to the temple.

I am guessing you have had stupidity lessons from your sidekick. Do you ever stop to think before posting such drivel ?

The majority of Jewish people live outside of Israel, are you seriously suggesting they can`t fulfil religious obligations if they live abroad ?

You couldnt even get why the "Wailing Wall" is so named, so lets not pretend you are somehow an expert on the subject.

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Over a third of their rules/commandments/laws relate to the temple.

I am guessing you have had stupidity lessons from your sidekick. Do you ever stop to think before posting such drivel ?

The majority of Jewish people live outside of Israel, are you seriously suggesting they can`t fulfil religious obligations if they live abroad ?

You couldnt even get why the "Wailing Wall" is so named, so lets not pretend you are somehow an expert on the subject.

Just so you know, using the term "Wailing Wall," is derogatory and insulting to Jews. Please stop. The correct term is "Western Wall."

At this time there is no temple so it is a moot point. For the temple to be re-built, one of the things that would have to happen is for nearly all Jews to return to Israel.

Out of 613 mitzvots (commandments) only 369 are operative. Because some of those are circumstantial, in actuality, then, there are only 270 precepts that every Jew is required to observe, without any particular circumstance ever having to come about.

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Over a third of their rules/commandments/laws relate to the temple.

I am guessing you have had stupidity lessons from your sidekick. Do you ever stop to think before posting such drivel ?

The majority of Jewish people live outside of Israel, are you seriously suggesting they can`t fulfil religious obligations if they live abroad ?

You couldnt even get why the "Wailing Wall" is so named, so lets not pretend you are somehow an expert on the subject.

Just so you know, using the term "Wailing Wall," is derogatory and insulting to Jews. Please stop. The correct term is "Western Wall."

At this time there is no temple so it is a moot point. For the temple to be re-built, one of the things that would have to happen is for nearly all Jews to return to Israel.

Out of 613 mitzvots (commandments) only 369 are operative. Because some of those are circumstantial, in actuality, then, there are only 270 precepts that every Jew is required to observe, without any particular circumstance ever having to come about.

You have a surpassing odd view of Judaism.

I really have no idea where you are getting this nonsense from.

The major obstacle preventing the rebuilding of the Temple is not where most Jews live but the fact that the Foundation Stone is under the Dome of the Rock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_Stone

In order to build a new Temple would require tearing down the Dome which would certainly result in a massive holy war by observant Muslims from all over the world. That is why there hasn't been a new Temple built.

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I said one of the things. They did find red heifer.

But anyway, the Jewish return, that comes from the Prophet Isaiah.

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You might attend a Seder sometime. There is a phrase at the end, "Next year in Jerusalem." Le-shanah ha-ba-a b'Yerushalayim

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Over a third of their rules/commandments/laws relate to the temple.

I am guessing you have had stupidity lessons from your sidekick. Do you ever stop to think before posting such drivel ?

The majority of Jewish people live outside of Israel, are you seriously suggesting they can`t fulfil religious obligations if they live abroad ?

You couldnt even get why the "Wailing Wall" is so named, so lets not pretend you are somehow an expert on the subject.

Just so you know, using the term "Wailing Wall," is derogatory and insulting to Jews. Please stop. The correct term is "Western Wall."

At this time there is no temple so it is a moot point. For the temple to be re-built, one of the things that would have to happen is for nearly all Jews to return to Israel.

Out of 613 mitzvots (commandments) only 369 are operative. Because some of those are circumstantial, in actuality, then, there are only 270 precepts that every Jew is required to observe, without any particular circumstance ever having to come about.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Over a third of their rules/commandments/laws relate to the temple.

I am guessing you have had stupidity lessons from your sidekick. Do you ever stop to think before posting such drivel ?

The majority of Jewish people live outside of Israel, are you seriously suggesting they can`t fulfil religious obligations if they live abroad ?

You couldnt even get why the "Wailing Wall" is so named, so lets not pretend you are somehow an expert on the subject.

Just so you know, using the term "Wailing Wall," is derogatory and insulting to Jews. Please stop. The correct term is "Western Wall."

At this time there is no temple so it is a moot point. For the temple to be re-built, one of the things that would have to happen is for nearly all Jews to return to Israel.

Out of 613 mitzvots (commandments) only 369 are operative. Because some of those are circumstantial, in actuality, then, there are only 270 precepts that every Jew is required to observe, without any particular circumstance ever having to come about.

Less insulting than your suggestion that Muslims should be nuked ! Are you fucking serious ?

As for the Wailling Wall...... You claimed it was Muslim insult, which shows no clue about the origin of the term.