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Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 11:56:19 AM   
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http://newsok.com/oklahoma-beheading-fired-employee-attempted-to-convert-coworkers-to-muslim-faith/article/5345835

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/26/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-distribution-center-police-say/



FBI officials are investigating a beheading at an Oklahoma food distribution center after co-workers said the suspect tried to convert them to Islam after his recent conversion.

The alleged suspect, Alton Nolen, 30, was recently fired from Vaughan Foods in Moore prior to Thursday’s attack. Moore Police Department Sgt. Jeremy Lewis told KFOR that Nolen drove to the front of the business and struck a vehicle before walking inside. He then attacked Colleen Hufford, 54, stabbing her several times before severing her head. He also stabbed another woman, 43-year-old Traci Johnson, at the plant.

Lewis said Mark Vaughan, the company’s chief operating officer and a reserve county deputy, shot Nolen as he was stabbing Johnson, who remains hospitalized in stable condition Friday.

“He’s a hero in this situation,” Lewis told the station. “It could have gotten a lot worse.”

Nolen was apparently attacking employees at random, authorities said. The motive for the attack is unclear, but FBI officials are now reportedly probing whether Nolen’s recent conversion to Islam is somehow linked to the crime.






Any idea how this is going to play out in the media as opposed to what actually happened?

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 12:08:02 PM   
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I don't know, but if he was really a Muslim convert, every muslim in Oklahoma needs to go into protective custody. This is about all the spark redneck USA needs to start slaughtering people.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 1:00:12 PM   
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I don't know, but if he was really a Muslim convert, every muslim in Oklahoma needs to go into protective custody. This is about all the spark redneck USA needs to start slaughtering people.


I think you should change "every" with "the other"

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 1:52:35 PM   
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I don't know, but if he was really a Muslim convert, every muslim in Oklahoma needs to go into protective custody. This is about all the spark redneck USA needs to start slaughtering people.


All it takes is one person to start a spark, and another to keep it going. After a few idiots jump in, we've got a bad fire.


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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 2:49:02 PM   
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In most Oklahoma towns there are four churches per block. Usually more churches than population... many Oklahoma "spirtiual leaders" abuse their position to move their own agendas. I've seen it, years ago I attended a service because my friends daughter was giving her first solo vocal before the congregation. I listened to a 45 min rant on hate of homosexuals and how they are plague on earth and it's gods will that the be driven out of the state by any means necassary. I couldn't endure any more... I stood, apologoized to the congregation for the phone call I was about to make to the FBI and bid them farwell. The Pavilion of hate was soon boarded over, but that only shut down an isolated psycho. This "muslim" incedent and the blind hatred that will follow is going to be fueld from pulpits state wide.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 4:17:58 PM   
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Never mind the media Aylee. On here it will play out as follows, some arseholes on the right will start to call for all Muslims to be deported, while others will want them nuked.

Fuck waiting for what actually happened to come out in the media.

My guess is this is another of those screwed up "lost my job" nutters losing the plot and as such my sympathies go out to the victims and their families caught up in these tragic events,

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 4:20:41 PM   
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Never mind the media Aylee. On here it will play out as follows, some arseholes on the right will start to call for all Muslims to be deported, while others will want them nuked.

Fuck waiting for what actually happened to come out in the media.

My guess is this is another of those screwed up "lost my job" nutters losing the plot and as such my sympathies go out to the victims and their families caught up in these tragic events,


Just converted to Islam, try to convert others to Islam, lost my job and then I behead someone?

Please show us one other example of an actual crazy who lost his job and then beheaded someone.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 4:38:07 PM   
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You stupid fuck........ Do you really want a list of mass workplace killings in the US, or is it just the method used you have a problem with ?

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 4:55:22 PM   
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You stupid fuck........ Do you really want a list of mass workplace killings in the US, or is it just the method used you have a problem with ?



Other ways of killing don't count, PS. Especially not if they involve guns, used by fine upstanding, wholesome and blueberry pie - eating white Christian loons. And it's much more pleasant and agreeable to be shot to death than beheaded, as any fool knows.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 4:56:49 PM   
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Speculates, peon, we can only speculate.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:02:23 PM   
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Speculates, peon, we can only speculate.


No speculation about it, ET. I've been watching Fox News: they've interviewed the ghosts of lots of people who've been shot to death and they've all said that they enjoyed the experience immensely, and thanked the Founding Fathers for enshrining their right to be murdered in such a hearty and all-American way, as well as the NRA for their tireless support of that right.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:03:25 PM   
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You stupid fuck........ Do you really want a list of mass workplace killings in the US, or is it just the method used you have a problem with ?



Other ways of killing don't count, PS. Especially not if they involve guns, used by fine upstanding, wholesome and blueberry pie - eating white Christian loons. And it's much more pleasant and agreeable to be shot to death than beheaded, as any fool knows.


Its not even that Peon. What gets me is the usual knee jerk reaction of deport all Muslims. Obviously the news from the rest of the world fails to reach some parts of the USA. Watching the debate in Parliament today or reading about the views of Muslims world wide isnt enough to educate some people.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:04:32 PM   
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Hmmm... I wonder if I was a contributor to the casting pool?

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:05:30 PM   
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white man shoots six family members including 4 kids, his daughter PLUS his son was killed in an " shooting accident" by him a few years earlier, doesnt rate a mention to most "weal amewicans"
one man who "recently converted to Islam" has never EVER had crazy thoughts in his life, only had his propensity for making a name for himself and hurting two women since he converted.
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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:14:47 PM   
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white man shoots six family members including 4 kids, his daughter PLUS his son was killed in an " shooting accident" by him a few years earlier, doesnt rate a mention to most "weal amewicans"
one man who "recently converted to Islam" has never EVER had crazy thoughts in his life, only had his propensity for making a name for himself and hurting two women since he converted.
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Beheading is what was practiced by Muhammed and his minions. It should not be hard to see the connection. Or you can be politically correct as always, just as the people in charge in Rotherham were.

Yes, there are plenty of crazies who shoot people to death. I favor the death penalty for them myself. That doesn't mean they are part of a worldwide political ideological agenda. Charles Manson, Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, one of the most revolting people who ever lived, and all completely evil -- but they weren't part of a worldwide religious movement.

How easily you all convenienly forget the beheading of the British soldier. When it comes to your hometown, perhaps you'll see the light. That's not a wish, to be clear, that's the direction it's going in and every one of us will suffer for it. Fortunately, most ordinary Americans don't suffer from the same political correctness and they know how to separate out a madman or psychopath from one fulfilling his duty for jihad.

A few more of these in the homeland and the approval ratings for Islam will be lower than those for Congress.

All you lefties are so good at changing the subject. What you all are changing it from is the ideological poison that is Islam. Because you won't talk about the truth, even as the heads literally roll.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:14:53 PM   
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The PPLs are already crying about imagined motives of righties so, I'll go ahead and say: "Had they guy used a gun, the PPLs would already have Ol' Sparky warming up for this guy."







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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:18:28 PM   
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The PPLs are already crying about imagined motives of righties so, I'll go ahead and say: "Had they guy used a gun, the PPLs would already have Ol' Sparky warming up for this guy."







Screen captures (and pissing on shadows) still RULE! Ya feel me?


And it bears repeating that without a gun in the hands of an honest citizen, the rampage would have continued. Only a gun stopped this gun-less, knife-wielding Muslim. Or there would have been more dead. Guns save lives and they saved them here. That's why there are almost no large sets of murders in gun-allowed zones. Because before the body count rises, an armed citizen takes them out, well before the police have arrived. When you have a gun-free zone, the police can't be there instantly and you have a massacre.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:18:51 PM   
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Its not even that Peon. What gets me is the usual knee jerk reaction of deport all Muslims. Obviously the news from the rest of the world fails to reach some parts of the USA. Watching the debate in Parliament today or reading about the views of Muslims world wide isnt enough to educate some people.


There's an article somewhere in the Independent - possibly by Mark Steele - that zeroes in on the Christian Paedophile conspiracy. Garry Glitter, brought up a Christian; Jimmy Savile ... they all were. Yet we see no apology from Christians about this.

It's nonsensical dogshit. The phrase 'silent majority' has never had more of a crucial import than when referring to Muslims, right now, with the background of IS. 'Actions speak louder than words', it's said. Not true, apparently. Being peaceable, civilised and decent isn't enough on its own. The Muslim bloke who sells me my newspapers at the corner shop - he erroneously assumes that a polite smile and a 'thank you' is enough for me, when I buy my paper. It's not, of course. He should be giving me half an hour of how he doesn't condone the IS beheadings every time I call in for my newspaper. Just like I give him half an hour of how I don't at all approve of Savile molesting children, even though I, like Savile, was brought up a Christian.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:23:02 PM   
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Its not even that Peon. What gets me is the usual knee jerk reaction of deport all Muslims. Obviously the news from the rest of the world fails to reach some parts of the USA. Watching the debate in Parliament today or reading about the views of Muslims world wide isnt enough to educate some people.


There's an article somewhere in the Independent - possibly by Mark Steele - that zeroes in on the Christian Paedophile conspiracy. Garry Glitter, brought up a Christian; Jimmy Savile ... they all were. Yet we see no apology from Christians about this.

It's nonsensical dogshit. The phrase 'silent majority' has never had more of a crucial import than when referring to Muslims, right now, with the background of IS. 'Actions speak louder than words', it's said. Not true, apparently. Being peaceable, civilised and decent isn't enough on its own. The Muslim bloke who sells me my newspapers at the corner shop - he erroneously assumes that a polite smile and a 'thank you' is enough for me, when I buy my paper. It's not, of course. He should be giving me half an hour of how he doesn't condone the IS beheadings every time I call in for my newspaper. Just like I give him half an hour of how I don't at all approve of Savile molesting children, even though I, like Savile, was brought up a Christian.



When they rape the children, they say "Praise Jesus." I don't think so.

There are pedophiles of every stripe: Christian, atheist, Jew, Muslim. As far as I'm concerned, they all ought to be executed.

Only Muslims JUSTIFY it via their "religion." Only Muslims shout "Allahu Akbar."

Savile was a sicko, certainly, but he didn't quote the New Testament to justify it, did he?

This is really a simple, clear difference. All people of all religions commit crimes. Muslims commit horrid crimes and justify them specifically using the Quran and the Hadiths. Imams often approve. When's the last time the Pope said a pedophile priest was carrying out Jesus's mission. You guys invert cause and effect.

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RE: Oklahoma beheading - 9/26/2014 5:29:56 PM   
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white man shoots six family members including 4 kids, his daughter PLUS his son was killed in an " shooting accident" by him a few years earlier, doesnt rate a mention to most "weal amewicans"
one man who "recently converted to Islam" has never EVER had crazy thoughts in his life, only had his propensity for making a name for himself and hurting two women since he converted.
mhmmmmmm


Beheading is what was practiced by Muhammed and his minions. It should not be hard to see the connection. Or you can be politically correct as always, just as the people in charge in Rotherham were.

Yes, there are plenty of crazies who shoot people to death. I favor the death penalty for them myself. That doesn't mean they are part of a worldwide political ideological agenda. Charles Manson, Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, one of the most revolting people who ever lived, and all completely evil -- but they weren't part of a worldwide religious movement.

How easily you all convenienly forget the beheading of the British soldier. When it comes to your hometown, perhaps you'll see the light. That's not a wish, to be clear, that's the direction it's going in and every one of us will suffer for it. Fortunately, most ordinary Americans don't suffer from the same political correctness and they know how to separate out a madman or psychopath from one fulfilling his duty for jihad.

A few more of these in the homeland and the approval ratings for Islam will be lower than those for Congress.

All you lefties are so good at changing the subject. What you all are changing it from is the ideological poison that is Islam. Because you won't talk about the truth, even as the heads literally roll.


subrosaDom, you are now ranting. You are blithering on about the 'truth', and 'political correctness'... and in the process sweeping away all your own, right wing political correctness - a political correctness that swiftly moves past all the murders that go on amongst non-Muslims.

And, I have to say, you don't know how to use the word 'ideology'. One of the things you don't appear to grasp is that the most powerful ideology is that which sees itself as 'self-evidently the truth' and 'how things just should be'. That is the definition of 'ideology' you're up against with IS and extreme, nutty forms of Islam - and it's *also* what you're up against in yourself.



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