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dcnovice -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/28/2014 3:21:29 PM)
quote: Wern't he and taft both republicrats? He and Taft were indeed both Republicans, but that didn't necessarily mean "conservative" back then. In fact, TR was so disgusted with the conservatism of his hand-picked successor--i.e., Taft, who'd really wanted to be chief justice-- that he tried to wrest the GOP nomination from him in 1912 and, when that failed, bolted to run on the Progressive platform.

thompsonx -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/28/2014 3:28:44 PM)
ORIGINAL: dcnovice Wern't he and taft both republicrats? He and Taft were indeed both Republicans, but that didn't necessarily mean "conservative" back then. If one looks at his policies he does not seem very liberal. Like his predicessors he followed the policy that the only good indian was a dead one. He sent the fleet around the world in an attempt to intimidate. The panama canal was all korporate amerika at it's ignomy. The little punk was just another fascist. In fact, TR was so disgusted with the conservatism of his hand-picked successor--i.e., Taft, who'd really wanted to be chief justice-- that he tried to wrest the GOP nomination from him in 1912 and, when that failed, bolted to run on the Progressive platform. Which was his way of destroying the only competition there was. Robert lafollett was not a happy camper.

TheHeretic -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/28/2014 4:54:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Suck my ass you drunk little bitch I keep Ron and Cloudboy on hide, Sanity. I don't need to know how you and they get your little rocks off together. I do know you and your reflex postings from hack sites bring down the IQ of any thread you join. Run along.

TheHeretic -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/28/2014 5:43:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Has Congress authorized him to use the military against ISIS? He can start use of the military, but needs to have Congressional approval to continue it past 90 days. Well, that's according to the War Powers Act. But, I don't think he has the authority to send the military in according to the War Powers Act because the requirements haven't been met. As we saw with Libya, the President seems to believe there is a remote control exception to the War Powers Act, and having had that sail through, seems to be expanding it to "boots on the ground" exception as well. What the President has laid out doesn't add up to a win. Mosul isn't going to be retaken from airstrikes (did anybody watch the Gaza thing by any chance?). President Obama made the American People some promises in that primetime address of his. We have a history of our President's promises to look back on. The United States is getting sucked right back in to Iraq, and throwing in Syria to keep it fresh. Since Congress authorized what the US started in Iraq, it seems to me very appropriate they should be forced to weigh in on how the mess gets cleaned up, again.

Sanity -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/28/2014 7:42:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I keep Ron and Cloudboy on hide, Sanity. I don't need to know how you and they get your little rocks off together. I do know you and your reflex postings from hack sites bring down the IQ of any thread you join. Run along. Could be that some day the world will march to your pouty whining and nagging, but that day isn't today.

BamaD -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/28/2014 9:07:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Teddy roosevelt won the peace prize and he was a warmonger like your buddy with the big ears. I'm not sure TR counts as a conservative, though. Walk softly and carry a big stick. In 1912 Roosevelt ran on the Progressive Party ticket, effectively assuring Wilson would win (for the historically challenged Wilson was a Democrat). On the other hand, just which wars did Roosevelt get us into?

BamaD -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/28/2014 9:14:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Teddy roosevelt won the peace prize and he was a warmonger like your buddy with the big ears. I'm not sure TR counts as a conservative, though. He got the peace prize for brokering an end to the Sino-Ruusian War of 1905. Obama got it for getting elected, remember he was selected before even taking office. At least Roosevelt did something to earn it.

dcnovice -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/29/2014 12:22:49 AM)
quote: He got the peace prize for brokering an end to the Sino-Ruusian War of 1905. Obama got it for getting elected, remember he was selected before even taking office. At least Roosevelt did something to earn it. This seems a non sequitur to my post. Indeed, TR's unprecedented brokering of an end to the Russo-Japanese war underscores yet another way in which he was not a traditional president. Not sure how Obama fits into the discussion, tbh. Did you get a chance to watch The Roosevelts on PBS? I was mesmerized by the combination of great storytelling and great inspiration.

Zonie63 -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/29/2014 8:05:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Teddy roosevelt won the peace prize and he was a warmonger like your buddy with the big ears. I'm not sure TR counts as a conservative, though. He got the peace prize for brokering an end to the Sino-Ruusian War of 1905. Obama got it for getting elected, remember he was selected before even taking office. At least Roosevelt did something to earn it. It was actually the Russo-Japanese War, and TR helped mediate that war which was ended by the Treaty of Portsmouth. Interestingly enough, after the treaty was announced, Japanese nationalists protested loudly outside the US embassy in Japan, as they felt that Japan got a raw deal from the treaty and blamed the U.S. This may have been one of the early seeds which would lead to further antagonism between America and Japan in later decades.

mnottertail -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/29/2014 8:09:34 AM)
Nobody has declared war, but congress gave their ok to go with the AUMF, which has not been rescinded, and that about suitcases that.

BamaD -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/29/2014 10:10:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Teddy roosevelt won the peace prize and he was a warmonger like your buddy with the big ears. I'm not sure TR counts as a conservative, though. He got the peace prize for brokering an end to the Sino-Ruusian War of 1905. Obama got it for getting elected, remember he was selected before even taking office. At least Roosevelt did something to earn it. It was actually the Russo-Japanese War, and TR helped mediate that war which was ended by the Treaty of Portsmouth. Interestingly enough, after the treaty was announced, Japanese nationalists protested loudly outside the US embassy in Japan, as they felt that Japan got a raw deal from the treaty and blamed the U.S. This may have been one of the early seeds which would lead to further antagonism between America and Japan in later decades. Yep that is what I meant. And their militaristic, expansionist policies may have had something to do with it.

thompsonx -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/29/2014 1:27:14 PM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD On the other hand, just which wars did Roosevelt get us into? Columbia and ww1

DomKen -> RE: Article 1 section 8 (9/29/2014 5:57:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Teddy roosevelt won the peace prize and he was a warmonger like your buddy with the big ears. I'm not sure TR counts as a conservative, though. Walk softly and carry a big stick. In 1912 Roosevelt ran on the Progressive Party ticket, effectively assuring Wilson would win (for the historically challenged Wilson was a Democrat). On the other hand, just which wars did Roosevelt get us into? Occupation of Cuba in 1906 without congressional approval.

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