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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/1/2014 8:13:03 PM   
BamaD


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'Gunphobia'? The word your looking for is Hoplophobia (an fear of weapons). Technically, its not an actual phobia.


Since the gunaphobic does not seem to fear other weapons Hoplophobia doesn't fit (how many times have you seen people tell us how much better it is to get stabbed than to fight back.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/1/2014 8:17:03 PM   
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how many times have you seen people tell us how much better it is to get stabbed than to fight back.

I can't think of any. Is there a post you might point me to?

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/1/2014 8:29:20 PM   
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I can't think of any. Is there a post you might point me to?


Try searching under posts by Ken, and pretending the "logic" he applies is consistent.




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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/1/2014 8:53:54 PM   
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Still....anyone here wish to argue that allowing the mentally/emotionally compromised to have easy access to firearms is a good thing?



Where the fuck did you possibly come up with that interpretation, Joether??? Or are you just trying to invent a topic where you might feel yourself competent to offer anything?

There are two subjects raised in my original post for the thread. A law that may empower families of the mentally ill, and a (probably accidental) admission that a database of gun owners has been created in California, from information recorded at the time of the sale.

My contention is that when supporters of the 2nd Amendment raise the concern that background checks can be used to create a database of gun owners, they are commonly mocked as conspiracy nuts by people whose ignorance about firearms is only exceeded by their negative opinion of guns and gun owners in general.






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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/1/2014 9:03:56 PM   
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anyone here wish to argue that allowing the mentally/emotionally compromised to have easy access to firearms is a good thing?

Sure. Are their lives worth less than yours? Why should they be denied the right to an effective means of self-defense? The issue is whether the person is predictably homicidal or a danger to themselves, and we have no reliable way of determining that absent expressed intent or a history of violent or suicidal behavior.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/1/2014 9:31:38 PM   
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I hope this doesn't reduce the number of guns around. Guns are lovely! Shooty, bangy, big metally guns. Bang! Bullets, blood and freedom. Lovely!



Hey, Peon. Since you are joining so enthusiastically about individual rights, maybe you could tell us about the new UK law that supposedly allows people with unpopular views to be censored in print and on social media, whether they are saying anything illegal or not. Lovely, lovely, censorship will make it all better.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/1/2014 9:50:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Hey, Peon. Since you are joining so enthusiastically about individual rights, maybe you could tell us about the new UK law that supposedly allows people with unpopular views to be censored in print and on social media, whether they are saying anything illegal or not. Lovely, lovely, censorship will make it all better.

I honestly never thought I would feel so glad that we kicked their asses out as I have come to feel since encountering some of the Brits in this forum.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 4:43:16 AM   
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Hey, Peon. Since you are joining so enthusiastically about individual rights, maybe you could tell us about the new UK law that supposedly allows people with unpopular views to be censored in print and on social media, whether they are saying anything illegal or not. Lovely, lovely, censorship will make it all better.


You caught me out there good and proper, TH. Obviously, my criticising any aspect of gun laws anywhere in the USA implies that I think everything in Britain is perfect. I am at a loss for words.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 5:00:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Hey, Peon. Since you are joining so enthusiastically about individual rights, maybe you could tell us about the new UK law that supposedly allows people with unpopular views to be censored in print and on social media, whether they are saying anything illegal or not. Lovely, lovely, censorship will make it all better.

I honestly never thought I would feel so glad that we kicked their asses out as I have come to feel since encountering some of the Brits in this forum.

K.


Thats due to your small-mindedness jingoistic views K.

Rich, how about you stop making shit up and show us what the fuck you "Supposedly" mean.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 6:53:23 AM   
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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 6:58:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I saw a headline, without the time to read the story, and was looking for further details. Got any?


I heard it on the news listening to the radio.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 9:52:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I saw a headline, without the time to read the story, and was looking for further details. Got any?

I heard it on the news listening to the radio.

TechDirt has an overview with links to coverage at the Telegraph, BBC, and BigBrotherWatch.

Thought Crime: UK Leadership Wants To Ban Predicted 'Extremists' From Social Media, TV, Events

K.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 10:53:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I saw a headline, without the time to read the story, and was looking for further details. Got any?

I heard it on the news listening to the radio.

TechDirt has an overview with links to coverage at the Telegraph, BBC, and BigBrotherWatch.

Thought Crime: UK Leadership Wants To Ban Predicted 'Extremists' From Social Media, TV, Events

K.


Minority report Tom Cruise

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 10:55:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		We' ew. It's a bleedin' riot-wing leadership, innit?

Typical of the nutsuckers no matter how they spell nutsuckours, oi?

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 11:05:23 AM   
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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 11:44:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tories; Schmories. The blokes this side of the pond who style themselves nutsuckours, don't know what socialism is, so they can't be arsed to know that a tory and a conservative are the same.

And I an't takin the piss there, guv.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 11:47:03 AM   
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It's an integral part of the British Tory Party proposals on gun law in California.

I don't know what this has to do with the subject but it looks like polite brought it up.

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 11:51:57 AM   
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Tories; Schmories. The blokes this side of the pond who style themselves nutsuckours, don't know what socialism is, so they can't be arsed to know that a tory and a conservative are the same.

And I an't takin the piss there, guv.

Really? Bloody hell!

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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 11:52:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

It's an integral part of the British Tory Party proposals on gun law in California.

I don't know what this has to do with the subject but it looks like polite brought it up.


You might fix your glasses, and your comprehension; simultaneously.



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RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission - 10/2/2014 11:53:50 AM   
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I don't know what this has to do with the subject but it looks like polite brought it up.

It was TH, post 26.

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