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Marc2b -> RE: Who said... (10/4/2014 1:40:12 PM)

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OMG, you're right ... The most incontrovertible statement I've heard (read) here thus far. [8D]

Whatever you do, don't make eye contact. Hopefully, he'll wander away.

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Btw, the comparison was not as to parallel ideologies or rational thought processes (or lack thereof in the case of one who shall remain unnamed), but to prolific self-posting. [:)]


Yeah I know but c'mon . . . you got to grant me leave to be at least a little affronted. After all, you're comparing me, a guy who (along with his Canadian pal, Yukon Jack) finds it amusing to post a few pics of Ralph Wigum and a cat, to BM - a guy who devotes thirty-four pages (on a slow day) to the message board equivalent of naval gazing in pursuit of the all important questions in life like: Does Buffy the Vampire Slayer live in Atlantis? Or something like that.

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Marc2b -> RE: Who said... (10/4/2014 1:48:08 PM)

This entire experience has been an exercise in the exploration of etymological eschewing of empirical epistemology.

My Canadian Pal has left but my Mexican friend has just shown up!




thompsonx -> RE: Who said... (10/5/2014 6:14:59 AM)


ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

I have a question...could it not be asked that if a devout belief in God and angels and a devil is dogmatic, then isn't a devout belief in the NON-existence of such creatures (for lack of a better word)...to the point of mocking it as nonsense...equally dogmatic?

One has to wonder what sort of moron would believe that disbelief of a fairytale entails a dogmatic belief in anything but logic?




thishereboi -> RE: Who said... (10/5/2014 7:04:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Yet he gets all riled up when people do the same things to muslims. I would love to hear the logic behind that.


What are you talking about? You're not making any sense. Islam is a religion and therefore included. What exactly are people doing to Muslims that I get riled up over?


When people lump all the muslims together and call them all terrorists. You have been here long enough to see it and if I remember correctly have called out a few on it. So why is that wrong and what you do alright?




thishereboi -> RE: Who said... (10/5/2014 7:17:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

The drama is from those who get bent out of shape because somebody on the internet disagreed with them about something. As for me, I was just having fun spending a rare Friday night home getting mildly drunk and playing - like a cat with a mouse - with a few posters, only one of which I have any respect for.



thanks for the head up, I will keep that in mind the next time I am trying to decide if it's worth the time to read one of your posts.


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As for the comparison to BM. Bullshit. BM spews metaphysical bullshit disguised as religious debate. I am of the position that god, angels, the devil, etc, etc, is not real - the exact opposite of BM's (and a lot of other people's) religious nonsense.


Sorry but that comparison was spot on. Now you can deny what you were doing but unless the mods pull this thread it will be there for all to see. But on the positive side you did find someone to agree with everything you say. Now all you have to do is figure out a way to hide the fact that that other person is you and it will be all good.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Who said... (10/5/2014 8:25:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

I have a question...could it not be asked that if a devout belief in God and angels and a devil is dogmatic, then isn't a devout belief in the NON-existence of such creatures (for lack of a better word)...to the point of mocking it as nonsense...equally dogmatic?

One has to wonder what sort of moron would believe that disbelief of a fairytale entails a dogmatic belief in anything but logic?

One has to wonder if you really believe you are anything but annoying.




Marc2b -> RE: Who said... (10/5/2014 4:22:52 PM)

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When people lump all the muslims together and call them all terrorists. You have been here long enough to see it and if I remember correctly have called out a few on it. So why is that wrong and what you do alright?


Firstly, I already clarified that I am not lumping religious persons together HERE.

And did so again, HERE.

And again HERE.

And again HERE.

And again HERE.

And again HERE.

Even Musicmystery eventually got it.

Secondly, you are making the mistake of equating bigotry with criticism. For example. It is bigotry to proclaim that gay people should not be allowed their civil rights because god says so. It is not bigotry to call bullshit on that. The former is bigotry because it seeks to discriminate against a group of people who share an immutable characteristic. The latter is not bigotry because it is a criticism (that does not seek to curtail anyone’s rights) against the opinions of a group that share a voluntary characteristic. Homosexuals are born homosexuals and cannot stop being homosexuals. Religious people not born religious and can stop being religious if they choose.

“Riled” is your adjective, not mine. I do have an abiding hatred of bigotry (a definite form of absolutism) and tend to react negatively when I encounter it. Ultimately, I don’t really care if someone’s bigotry is religious or anti-religious. It’s the bigotry itself that pisses me off the most. But that don’t mean the excuses for bigotry should not be addressed and religion is often an excuse for bigotry. It gets no pass from me.


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thanks for the head up, I will keep that in mind the next time I am trying to decide if it's worth the time to read one of your posts.


Yes, it’s true. I must confess it. I am not always serious. I get in these other moods sometimes. Happy, sad, wistful, mad, perhaps a splash of introspection or a dash of insurrection. It has something to do with being human. Now, I would think that pictures of Ralph Wigum, the Scooby Gang and an ostrich (not to mention the outright admission of drinking) would tip most people off as to what kind of mood the poster was in. If you are determined to talk only to Serious Marc, I guess you’ll just have to inquire after my mood first but be warned – my mood has been known to change due to circumstances in my environment.


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Sorry but that comparison was spot on.


And I have steadfastly refused to admit otherwise!!!!!


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Now you can deny what you were doing but unless the mods pull this thread it will be there for all to see.


Oh my god you’re right! What am I gonna do?! What?! Oh my dear god what the fuck am I gonna do?! This will follow me around for the rest of my life! My plans to run for President in 2016 are dashed. When the media digs up this dirt on me (and you know they will, they always do!) it will turn the public against me and kill my campaign. I don't think I could bear seeing John Stewart calling me out on his show.

[I interrupt the Wordy Retort for a Sunday Afternoon to bring you the following message: I am currently in a very sarcastic mood. Now back to your regular programming.]

I . . . Okay, hang on, I gotta think here. Okay. There is only one thing to do. I must throw myself on the mercy of the Mods and implore them to remove these pages. Do you think they will? What if I get on my knees and beg? Do you think that will help? Or maybe I could send them a plate of cookies. Everyone loves cookies right? But I only have Pecan Sandies! The driest, crumbliest, blandest cookie in existence! Oh dear god! I might as well face the facts. My internet life is over. I’ll never live down the shame. I might as well go stick my head in the oven right now. Goodbye cruel world.

Shit. It’s an electric oven. I think I’ll step out for a BLT sub instead. While you are waiting for me to finish my sub, here is some entertainment for you.

[psst. Mods, over here. While thishereboi is distracted by the soothing story-telling strumming of Arlo Guthrie, I just wanted to tell you that I don’t really care if you leave the pages up – and that I would never inflict Pecan Sandies on you.]

Okay I’m back. Where were we? Oh right.

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But on the positive side you did find someone to agree with everything you say. Now all you have to do is figure out a way to hide the fact that that other person is you and it will be all good.


Are you kidding me? You very rarely agrees with me. You has always been contrarian. He’s ornery like that. Still, talking to You is sometimes the only way I can have an intelligent conversation. And You does make me think. So, no I don’t really want to hide You. You is the best part of me.

I think I'll' go have some Nutter Butters and milk for desert.




thompsonx -> RE: Who said... (10/5/2014 6:19:12 PM)

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


ORIGINAL: thompsonx

One has to wonder what sort of moron would believe that disbelief of a fairytale entails a dogmatic belief in anything but logic?

One has to wonder if you really believe you are anything but annoying.

It is clear that I annoy you...but then you are pretty easy to annoy[8|]




CreativeDominant -> RE: Who said... (10/6/2014 12:28:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


ORIGINAL: thompsonx

One has to wonder what sort of moron would believe that disbelief of a fairytale entails a dogmatic belief in anything but logic?

One has to wonder if you really believe you are anything but annoying.

It is clear that I annoy you...but then you are pretty easy to annoy[8|]

You're right and wrong...I AM easily annoyed by those who do drive-by comments of a snarky, arrogant nature. By nature though, not easily.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Who said... (10/6/2014 3:34:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
"Seven blunders of the world that lead to violence: wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice, politics without principle."
-- ????

Do you agree with Gandhi that these "Seven Blunders" lead to violence?


I don't know if they will, but they certainly can.




Marc2b -> RE: Who said... (10/6/2014 3:42:08 PM)

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I don't know if they will, but they certainly can.


Oh sure, come back to your thread after all the shit flinging fun and make a reasonable statement. [:D]




DesideriScuri -> RE: Who said... (10/6/2014 3:44:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b
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I don't know if they will, but they certainly can.

Oh sure, come back to your thread after all the shit flinging fun and make a reasonable statement. [:D]


I'm down a laptop and had my kids this weekend. I'd have jumped in earlier, but logistically, it wasn't to be.




Marc2b -> RE: Who said... (10/6/2014 4:00:23 PM)

You don't have to explain yourself for having a real life on the weekend. Hell, you're preaching to the choir. I'm usually gone from here on weekends. Circumstances kept me home this weekend so I broke out the Yukon Jack and . . . well, sorry about the mess. [8D]




DesideriScuri -> RE: Who said... (10/7/2014 3:11:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b
You don't have to explain yourself for having a real life on the weekend. Hell, you're preaching to the choir. I'm usually gone from here on weekends. Circumstances kept me home this weekend so I broke out the Yukon Jack and . . . well, sorry about the mess. [8D]


Lmao!!

No worries. [:D]




tweakabelle -> RE: Who said... (10/7/2014 6:01:00 AM)



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dcnovice

In half a century of churchly life, I've yet to encounter anyone who "knows" that Earth was created in six days. But I have met lots of folks, including the Catholic priest who taught us all about evolution in AP Bio, who strive to harmonize the metaphorical insights of Genesis and the exciting discoveries of science.


This is a very interesting perspective dc, and one at considerable variance to my own experiences. At the Catholic school I survived, the daily dose of religious 'education' focused heavily on dogma and while occasionally acknowledging the existence of 'doubt', brushed it over quickly by declaring 'doubts' were a symptom of lack of faith, and stronger efforts on the 'faith' front were the answer to 'doubts'. As you can imagine, Singer's dictum that "Doubt is part of all religion. All the religious thinkers were doubters." would have been given very short shift there, and probably interpreted as prima facie evidence of lack of religious faith.

Speaking for myself, I have always regarded the certainty that religious belief offers its adherents as one of the more consoling features of religious belief, even if at times I have been scathing about the price paid for that 'certainty'. So while I don't wish to dispute your experience in any way it is difficult for me to reconcile the conflicting forces of dogma and doubt. They appear to be mutually exclusive.




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