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thompsonx -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 4:58:12 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


There is not a direct relationship between Firearm ownership rates and violent crime in the U S.

On numerous occasions you have said just the opposite. That gun ownership lowers (has a direct relationship to)violent crime. Doesn't it hurt your mouth when you talk out of both sides of ?[8|]


There is however a direct relationship between gang activity and violent crime.

This would once again indicate your firm grip on the obvious.


There is a direct relationship between the incidence of crack heads and violent.

Here you have your head firmly up your ass. You don't even have a clue what the phoque crack is.[8|]







thompsonx -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 4:59:49 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

What do you remember him saying was the max speed limit in the US?

Are you too young to remember when the national speed limit was 55?





BitYakin -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 5:07:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

I have no idea, but no literate person could have drawn the inference you did from her words.

Which tells us more about you than it does her.

DUHHHH


hmmm lets see how literate I am ..

if you, "have no idea" then how do you know that's NOT what she meant?

how could a literate person both have NO IDEA, and still be sure it's NOT what I said at the same time?

your statement contradicts itself!

it says I do not know yet I DO KNOW at the same time...




thompsonx -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 5:08:04 AM)


ORIGINAL: joether



The problem is very unique in the world.

Unique is not a modifiable word[8|]

A nation with a high amount of firearms that are easy to obtain is unheard of in any other industrial or second world nation.


Get a clue as to what 1st,2nd and 3rd world mean.

Most nations with high amounts of firearms are in some form of destruction and ruin.

Like switzerland and cuba?



There is very little if any 'central government'; and what government exist is composed of warlords and dictators.

Do you just make this shit up...what war lords exist in cuba or switzerland?


If America is so safe with all its guns, why is the crime rate still high?


Once more: if you wish to contribute to a thread please do us the courtesy of knowing what the phoque you are talking about. The crime rate in amerika has been on the decline for the past decade.











thompsonx -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 5:10:00 AM)


ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

pansy-ass Europe stops looking at us like their private military.


Just when has the u.s. been the private army for europe?




BitYakin -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 5:15:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom
Australia saw an increase in violent crime following its gun bans, too. This isn't rocket science. If you give thugs impunity to attack, what precisely to do you think they're going to do? Disarmament is impunity.

Get your facts checked. Since you didn't understand the history nor the evidence, I would have to say that rocket science is just not your field of study....

Have murders increased since the gun law change, as claimed? Actually, Australian crime statistics show a marked decrease in homicides since the gun law change.

except she didn't say murder or homicide she said violent crime, making your link irrelavant


If your being intellectually honest, its bullshit, and you know it! If your being intellectually honest and its not bullshit, your an idiot. So either your bullshitting, or your an idiot......which is it?

She talked about violent crime. The article talks about violent crime. Unless your going to have us all believe that 'Death by Firearms' is not a violent way to go? And its ALSO, and ILLEGAL thing to do to someone. So death by a firearm, that is illegal and violent, WOULD BE A VIOLENT CRIME!






actually its you that is either being dishonest or idiotic, violent crime includes a whole range of differant crimes, homicide is a very SPECIFIC crime..


she talks about violent crimes, your article talks about MURDER specificly it ignores a multitude of violent crimes, rape, assault, mugging etc etc etc

it's quite possible that while homicide went down, violent crimes as a whole did go up...

did it, I have no idea, but your article does not prove her wrong by any means.




BitYakin -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 5:28:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

You, on the other hand, are not like this.
You believe -
You need a gun... for defense. You think you are defenseless and a numpty if you don't have one.
You need a gun... to deter would-be thieves and criminals. You don't believe anything less will do.
You need a gun... to attack first. Because to do otherwise means they'll get the jump on you and you're dead.
You need a gun... because... you can't think beyond the end of a muzzle. You can't comprehend a life without one.
You need a gun... because the constitution and the law says you can and have the right to. And by golly, you'll exercise that right... just because you can, and will.


You need to give back your mind reading certificate, wrong on every count.
It is too late to talk about level headed gun owners you already declared all gun owners to be crazy.


You have proved your motives, intentions and total gun mindset through many of your posts.
I declared that people like you, with your type of mindset, are crazy and irresponsible - not everyone.

We speak to quite a few people in the US and they don't react like you have described that you do.
To quote our friend in NC, he said "that man is a nutter and shouldn't be allowed to own a gun".

Wrong on every count?? I don't think so.
I'm not the only one that has made such a comment and most of those similar comments have come from US posters.



sorry but NO YOU DID NOT you said and I QUOTE

"So wanting a deadly weapon like a gun is just crazy... and stupid... and unnecessary."

I see no qualifier such as "like YOU" or LIKE THEM" or LIKE anyone, you made a FLAT BLANKET STAMENT that covers EVERYONE said they were CRAZY & STUPID if they wanted a gun..

So put that into context of what was said before.... let me remind you from post#41-

And it was a conclusion to Bama's comment -
"The problem with stopping stupid people is the folks who think that wanting a gun proves you are stupid"
To which I replied -
"And in an awful lot of cases, that would be correct - and proven by the daily gun deaths and mass slaughters."
And if you could comprehend English instead of spin and stuff taken out of context, that response is saying that I think Bama (and a lot of other people) are stupid for wanting guns because of their attitude and outlook.

And my finale concluded with -
"Many people, even in the US, can live their lives without a gun and not wanting one.
It has also been proven that to carry a gun is more likely to get you injured or dead.
"
followed by that last line of -
"So wanting a deadly weapon like a gun is just crazy... and stupid... and unnecessary."

Now... add that to my earlier comments to Bama in post#21 -
"Your antagonistic outlook makes you a dangerous person to own and carry a gun.
Your 'attack first' and confrontational attitude means you do not carry responsibly either.
You are a delusional gun nut.
I wouldn't trust you with a crayon, let alone a gun!!
"


Put it all together, in the right order, and you get a comment and opinion on Bama - not a blanket statement for everyone. It just proves that you either can't read or you didn't read the whole thread and jumped to a moronic conclusion... as usual.


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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
he once claimed he hated the usa cause we weren't allowed to drive over 30 or 40 MPH, then went onto tell us about this "friends" who NEVER drove above 30 MPH or some other idiotic speed...

*IF* you were paying attention, I said the max speed limit I came across was 55mph.
I never claimed that the US max speed was that; only that it was the max I'd seen.
And yes, my friends that I sat shotgun with never went over 30mph even in the 55mph limit.
I can't help that - it's what they do.
If you go faster.... bully for you. It's not how they choose to drive.

Foot-in-mouth syndrome much??? [8|]


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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
but its good to know you value the life of a thug/thief/rapist over your children's safety

I don't hold such a view and I never claimed such nonsense.
Your words, your spin. Not mine.

Foot-in-mouth again or is it head-up-ass this time???




yes context is a nice thing, since we are being all LITERATE and all, the last line of any statement is considered a CONCLUSION...

you conclude with a statement that includes ALL PEOPLE, which in no way specifies people LIKE HIM


typo, misspoke, poor literacy explain any way you like, I just went by YOUR WORDS!


sorry NOOO it wasn't 55 it was quite a bit lower and NOOO I am not wasting MY time hunting down your post...

pure revisionist story telling on your part, because in response to your post I posted a PICTURE of a speed limit sign showing it was 55 in an inner city area on a highway...


why would I show you a picture of a 55 mph speed limit sign if you had said the limit was 55?

PS, since the MIN speed limit is 40 on a highway I have to conclude either they NEVER DRIVE on a highway or they have gotten ALOT OF TICKETS for impeding the flow of traffic

and once gain I just went by YOUR WORDS, NOTHING, that's the word YOU used, I assume children are SOMETHING, is worth killing someone over...


so its not a SPIN, its what YOU SAID




crazyml -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 6:12:38 AM)

You may need to get an adult to explain this nuance to you.

For example, I am certain that the phrase did not set out to explain that the Wizard of Oz is playing. I am certain that it wasn't a statement about her belief in god for example.

I still have no idea what her point was.

And nor do you.

DUHHHHH





Kirata -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 9:22:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

I think maybe her point was, that saying more people die by guns in a place where there are more guns is about as obvious and moronic as saying more people die by drowning near rivers/lakes/beaches than in deserts...

DUHHHHH

[image]http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-31-at-Monday-March-31-3.17-AM.png[/image]


Comparing murder rates and gun ownership across countries

K.




BitYakin -> RE: Anyone agree that it is better to harm with any other weapon than to avoid violence with a firearm? (10/6/2014 1:12:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

You may need to get an adult to explain this nuance to you.

For example, I am certain that the phrase did not set out to explain that the Wizard of Oz is playing. I am certain that it wasn't a statement about her belief in god for example.

I still have no idea what her point was.

And nor do you.

DUHHHHH




that might be why I said I THINK, and MAYBE her point was...

and while yes its obvious she wasn't referring to those things as they have ZERO to do with the topic, what I suggested is on topic, and could quite possibly be what she meant...
actually it seemed pretty clear to me...
hence the DUHH, sorry that was a cheap shot and I shouldn't have said it

since she has decided not to further explain her point, until you show otherwise its still has a much higher possibility of being correct than I HAVE NO IDEA

possibly you could explain your reasoning for be SO SURE that's not what her point was????




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