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I thought this might be a curious discussion. On a topic far different than what it has become. Another 'gun supporting thread by BamaD'....what else is new?
I mean this in all sincerity BamaD: Do you understand that the material you show here does sound crazy, illogical, and dangerous? There are good reasons for owning a firearm (having a freedom) and negative reasons for a firearm (a prison). People have guns for target, competition, historical, and even self defense (enjoying a freedom). And people have guns to defend themselves due to their paranoid schizophrenia snapping into high gear (a prison). One whom can not tell which instance they are in, would be best not having such a tool so handily around them. That situations do arise that could easily be handled in a dozen other ways. If your so 'of need' of a firearm, because your afraid of something bad happening to you, answer me this:
Do you wear an NBC suit 24/7?
A Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warefare suit? Lets face the reality here. Your more likely to be exposed to sunlight alittle to long, then dealing with some nut trying to rob you (the effects can be life threating). Your more likely to obtain a more deadly strain of the flu (last year's had two major bugs running loose in the USA), then someone attacking you in broad daylight. And its a sad fact, but chemicals can mix at the wrong time creating severe problems on the human body. If your so concern about your body's health, wouldn't it make sense to keep your mind and body healthy? To keep things in perspective, logical, and most of all...sane?
I can understand having a passion fore firearms. One of my many passions is good video games. But doing it to much. Obsessing over it. Sacrificing life for the game. Are the things that make up someone suffering more internally. How often do you see me bitching about Battlefield 4? A game I didn't get to play for one minute after purchasing it. Never, because I keep that passion controlled, in check, and responsible. A firearm is a device that requires responsibility to handle safely. When you talk, respond and even create new threads; it feels like your out of control. You can understand why people might get concern over the nature of your posting, right?
I've disagreed with you on the 2nd amendment. Its not an individual right to a firearm (or any other weapon), without responsibility or limit. You can not ignore the first half of the 2nd amendment because its politically inconvenient to you. I asked you (and all the other conservatives) if the US Government or other Americans could ignore half of the 8th and reinterpret the remainder however they wanted. Not a single person on this forum said "ok with that". If its not 'ok' for the 8th, nor twenty-five amendments,....WHY.....would it be 'ok' for the 2nd? Now, if your arms were part of 'A well regulated militia...', I wouldn't have a problem. Since that means someone somewhere, is in a position of credibility and responsibility with power in allowing you said arms. So if you went off the deep end, and they did nothing, given the warning signs, their goose is cooked! If you don't wish to be in that '...well regulated militia..." that is find too: but your arms are not protected under the 2nd amendment. Your arms would be subject to the 10th amendment.
You can be a good guy, BamaD. The question is, can you reflect on what others say and be honest to yourself? You don't have to admit anything on here. Might do you good, to consider the idea and not who it is from. I think most of us would enjoy a good, healthy discussion on the 2nd amendment in different situations. But like BDSM, it has to be kept sane, safe, and consensual. The idea of 'topic' that you give here, sounds like an interesting one. But it is to each of us, not to get the topic off track with pettiness, silly and stupid crap.
I've dealt with people that have used their fists on up to firearms. Each encounter was not pleasant. Would a gun have helped in all the situations? Not really. In some of them, it would have made matters worst. In one case, talking down a suicidal marine with a gun, would have been absolutely stupid. There is no one tool that handles all problems. But knowing when to apply the right tool, at the right time, for the right reasons, is not as easily as it sounds. And if your still having trouble, consider the following....
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