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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 2:23:45 PM   
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I don't give a fuck what they do in these places. They could all lop one another's heads off for all I care. But, what I could never support is the British Government having the audacity, or more to the point arrogance, to think we can go to these places and show them how it's done; when in all truth democracy is only an idea and who ever said lopping heads off isn't fulfilling?

But, you Sanity, you've gone all liberal. Liberal interventionist. The worst kind.





I know, it comes through loud and clear. In fact you cannot imagine others caring, its blatantly obvious. True sociopaths cant even conceive that others may have sympathetic feelings for those who suffer

And "Liberal" as opposed to leftists, as in the original meaning of the word liberal - yes, that is me. Spot on, and thank you.


Fuck me. Sanity, you are the same Sanity who has been posting endless shite about the undeserving in the United States?

You're not seriously telling me you care about 'Malala' but not the bloke down the street without a pot to piss in?



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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 2:26:47 PM   
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And I am "Liberal" (as opposed to leftist) as in the original meaning of the word liberal. Yes, you are correct, that is me. Spot on, and thank you.




And, a point of order, you are not remotely anything like approaching 'liberal in its original meaning'.

Liberalism in its original meaning was certainly underpinned by the idea of sovereignty, and you would be over there like a shit off a stick were this a Republican government.


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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 2:53:49 PM   
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And, a point of order, you are not remotely anything like approaching 'liberal in its original meaning'.

Liberalism in its original meaning was certainly underpinned by the idea of sovereignty, and you would be over there like a shit off a stick were this a Republican government.



You're taking back the compliment, you must be part Scotsman

You're also bungling the meaning of true liberalism, we true liberals are passionate about liberty and human rights (real human rights) being shared by all human beings on the planet

A girl being shot because she is passionate about achieving an education is an atrocity that should grab everyones attention, though you may personally be excused due to your condition

Why you keep trying to bring Republicans into this is beyond anything logical, they have nothing to do with Malala being shot and the little straw man figure youve constructed of me supposedly supporting any government shooting a young woman for wanting an education can only be explained by derangement on your part









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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:01:46 PM   
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Original Sanity (a true liberal)
You're also bungling the meaning of true liberalism, we true liberals are passionate about liberty and human rights (real human rights) being shared by all human beings on the planet


We will count you among the effete liberals of Agnews discourse.

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:04:53 PM   
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And, a point of order, you are not remotely anything like approaching 'liberal in its original meaning'.

Liberalism in its original meaning was certainly underpinned by the idea of sovereignty, and you would be over there like a shit off a stick were this a Republican government.



You're taking back the compliment, you must be part Scotsman

You're also bungling the meaning of true liberalism, we true liberals are passionate about liberty and human rights (real human rights) being shared by all human beings on the planet

A girl being shot because she is passionate about achieving an education is an atrocity that should grab everyones attention, though you should be personally excused due to your condition

Why you keep trying to bring Republicans into this is beyond anything logical, they have nothing to do with Malala being shot and the little straw man figure youve constructed of me supposedly supporting any government shooting a young woman for wanting an education is clearly derangement on your part



Good post. You really are operating within the realm of sanity, and that is good, but perhaps unexpected, news.

Anyway, now that the board understands that 'we true liberals' are 'passionate about liberty and human rights' I'm sure we'll see more of it with regard to your compatriots.

Having said that, I'll never be convinced that 'true liberals' care a jot about someone being shot thousands of miles away, although I could be wrong.

Dunno about you Sanity, but I read the paper in the morning and think that's interesting but by the time I've left the door I've got work on my mind, but it seems you carry this burden around with you all day, and who would have thought it? One of Bush's disciples, the man who talks about exterminating evil, these hitherto unknown evil types; could possibly be concerned with saving the world.


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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:32:57 PM   
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How is it that you care for some woman in buttfuckistan but never post about the downtroden in your own country? Perhaps that is why we all call bullshit on your mornonic self serving platitudes that apply to someone you cannot help but what do you do to help those whom you can? Are there no poor and disenfranchised in idaho? I am pretty sure that furgistan is closser than where ever it is that you are sniviling about.

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:32:57 PM   
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You're also bungling the meaning of true liberalism, we true liberals are passionate about liberty and human rights (real human rights) being shared by all human beings on the planet...

Yeah... we noticed.
Human rights... interpreted as, "my human rights" and anyone else as long as it doesn't infringe what I want!!

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:36:19 PM   
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You do care about the topic, obviously. Only in the sense that you want to shut such discussion down though, because you aren't liberal, you're a leftist

And such a topic is anathema to your political agenda

Thats the difference between you and I

Liberal, myself, cares passionately about human rights, even someone on the other side of the planet

You, leftist, sees people as cattle. The only thing that matters? Your political agenda, certainly not individuals.

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:38:37 PM   
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Yeah... we noticed.
Human rights... interpreted as, "my human rights" and anyone else as long as it doesn't infringe what I want!!


No, actually we are discussing a young woman who was shot in the head by the Taliban for seeking an education, supporting education for girls

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:44:41 PM   
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Yeah... we noticed.
Human rights... interpreted as, "my human rights" and anyone else as long as it doesn't infringe what I want!!


No, actually we are discussing a young woman who was shot in the head by the Taliban for seeking an education, supporting education for girls

Yeah, I know. Shocking story.
And yet you advocate guns for everyone; thus enabling this sort of atrocity to happen in your own country.
And you scream about "your rights" to have them.
What about those that want a gun-free country to stop such things before they become a reality?
You're not that keen on granting those rights are you?


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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:49:22 PM   
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Yeah, I know. Shocking story.
And yet you advocate guns for everyone; thus enabling this sort of atrocity to happen in your own country.



It was a form of government that carried out the attack on Malala Yousafzai, the religious governing body known as the Taliban

All gun control would do in her case is make her and others like her even more vulnerable

Making your point exactly backwards

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:54:36 PM   
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Take a tip from Malaya --- and read books, respect the learned, and avoid dogma.

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:56:15 PM   
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Take a tip from Malaya --- and read books, respect the learned, and avoid dogma.


Its Malala, not Malaya

Pay attention to what you read, boy. Otherwise reading does you little good

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 3:59:42 PM   
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Yeah, I know. Shocking story.
And yet you advocate guns for everyone; thus enabling this sort of atrocity to happen in your own country.



It was a form of government that carried out the attack on Malala Yousafzai, the religious governing body known as the Taliban

All gun control would do in her case is make her and others like her even more vulnerable

Making your point exactly backwards

Nope.
Not talking about simple gun control a-la-US style.
Ban public carrying of guns and she wouldn't have gotten shot.
Not exactly backwards.

Your current laws would allow anyone to make an identical attack in the US - almost anywhere.
But.... our laws would almost certainly have prevented it.



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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 4:21:32 PM   
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The amusing part of this thread is that Obama has bombed 7 nations now where Bush has only bombed 4... Yeah Obama has really earned that Peace Prize /rolleyes.

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 4:56:43 PM   
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Nope.
Not talking about simple gun control a-la-US style.
Ban public carrying of guns and she wouldn't have gotten shot.
Not exactly backwards.

Your current laws would allow anyone to make an identical attack in the US - almost anywhere.
But.... our laws would almost certainly have prevented it.




Again, it was essentially the government that attacked her

Still, assuming your point about guns has any merit (which it doesnt)

How would it have been better if the Islamists had knifed her, or stoned her, or attacked her with acid etc

The problem isnt that people have access to tools and things, the problem is the Islamic ideology that teaches its adherents that females who dare to seek an education must be destroyed







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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 6:36:26 PM   
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Yeah... we noticed.
Human rights... interpreted as, "my human rights" and anyone else as long as it doesn't infringe what I want!!


No, actually we are discussing a young woman who was shot in the head by the Taliban for seeking an education, supporting education for girls

Yeah, I know. Shocking story.
And yet you advocate guns for everyone; thus enabling this sort of atrocity to happen in your own country.
And you scream about "your rights" to have them.
What about those that want a gun-free country to stop such things before they become a reality?
You're not that keen on granting those rights are you?


Rights are never granted, they are recognized.
Almost funny that you see a terrorist attack in Asia as an excuse to attack US law and pretend that UK law precludes terrorism.

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 8:51:30 PM   
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That does have an air of humor about it

Terrorists can't possibly hurt anyone in the UK, its against the law there

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 8:58:02 PM   
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That does have an air of humor about it

Terrorists can't possibly hurt anyone in the UK, its against the law there

Maybe we should make it illegal here.

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RE: Malala Yousafzai - 10/10/2014 9:10:55 PM   
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That does have an air of humor about it

Terrorists can't possibly hurt anyone in the UK, its against the law there

The two terrorists who beheaded the British soldier are serving life sentences.
I know the one who did the beading in the US is recovering from gunshot wounds.
The British attackers waited around for the authorities so they could make political statements, the American was going for more victims.

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