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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/24/2014 11:40:28 AM   
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According to who.

Anyone with a clue, which is likely why you're so puzzled.

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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/24/2014 1:17:11 PM   
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Attitude of entitlement, isn't that newspeak for "acting white"? I am pretty sure it is.


Not at all, actually.






Maybe not so much in the sports world; moreso in the political arena.



How so?

Frankly, I'm at a loss with how this correlation has even come up.

First off, in speaking about the "sports world", which is what this thread is ostensibly about....my use of the term "entitlement" comes from my own lexicon, not from some news article. As a sports fan, I am THRILLED to see someone like Russell Wilson, or any other figure, who actually seems to "get it". Black, white, brown, purple, plaid...someone who has a remote concept of personal responsibility and does not feel like the world owes them something because of their God given talent. Gee, I don't know...part of me wonders about the issues of the college players who, of all things, get into trouble with shoplifting from grocery stores. And then I remember....these are people who are used to getting bailed out. Because they can throw a ball, or receive a pass, they get a "pass". Sorry, doesn't work for me.

Second, in terms of the "political arena"...seriously? "Entitlement" is the equivalent of "acting white"? Please, explain that to me.


Have you NOT heard of "white privilege/entitlement" and "male privilege/entitlement"?

The phrase "check your privilege/entitlement"?

Have you been living under a rock?

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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/24/2014 2:58:30 PM   
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Have you NOT heard of "white privilege/entitlement" and "male privilege/entitlement"?

The phrase "check your privilege/entitlement"?

Have you been living under a rock?



Nope, have never in my life heard the phrase "check your privilege". *gasp*

And, notwithstanding that I may be living under a rock....though I am sure the suburbs of a large city don't count as such...I fail to see where my use of the world "entitlement" in regards to *Percy Harvin* even merit an allusion to this.


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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/24/2014 5:33:54 PM   
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Reports: Some teammates think QB Russell Wilson isn't black enough


...on Thursday's SportsCenter, Kenny Mayne added this to Freeman's story:

“Two sources — one inside the team, one outside of the underachieving 3-3 Seahawks — tell me that much of what was written in Mike Freeman's Bleacher Report column is true,” Mayne said, via PFT. “(Freeman) wrote of turmoil involving since-traded Percy Harvin and the quarterback Russell Wilson that led to a more widespread internal battle pitting those for Russell Wilson and those against.

"And Freeman surmised on his own an issue among some teammates regarding Wilson that quote, 'he isn't black enough.' A certain expected behavior based on color, apparently. One of the sources told me, quote, I don't know how he got all that stuff, but it's pretty much true. We do have a divide. We're working on it. Thursday that notion was not presented to Wilson, but over and again, questions came about Harvin's departure.”

First, as PFT's Mike Florio points out, Freeman didn't "surmise" this. It was his feeling "backed up by several interviews with Seahawks players." Second, "that notion" was presented to Wilson.

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The article goes on to discuss how Russell Wilson says that everything is fine, there are no problems at all

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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/25/2014 5:03:07 AM   
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Have you NOT heard of "white privilege/entitlement" and "male privilege/entitlement"?
The phrase "check your privilege/entitlement"?
Have you been living under a rock?


"Entitlement" mentality is more about people feeling they deserve something they don't deserve. While someone thinking they deserve something because they are white or male that non-whites or non-males don't deserve, that is an example of an entitlement mentality. But, that's definitely not the only example of an entitlement.

Affirmative Action is a program that can lead to someone getting a job they are less qualified for, compared to other applicants, simply because of race.

How many "White" Student Unions have you heard of? I have only heard of one (at Towson State, MD). How many "Black" Student Unions are there? IMO, there shouldn't be anything other than a student union for the general student populace. How do the needs of students change based on race?

Welfare: Some people feel they deserve welfare simply because they exist and choose to not work (when they are capable of working and sustaining themselves). Every race is represented within those entitlees.

Does a football player deserve to be treated differently than other players simply because of race or talent? It's not uncommon for a talented athlete to not be held to the same standards as other athletes. Is it right? If a Coach doesn't treat the talented athletes the same way, that's the Coach's fault. If the athlete demands to be treated differently because he/she is more talented than the rest, that's your "entitlement" mentality.

The "entitlement mentality" is not a race or gender thing. Every race and gender has examples of it's members feeling entitled to something they are not simply based on their race or gender.


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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/25/2014 5:36:41 AM   
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Not too long ago (within the last few months), there was a school girl beaten on a school bus for "acting white". It should be easily searchable on Yahoo since that's where I read the story.

As far as this Russell Wilson situation; I have seen ESPN make news as much as report it so their credibility is questionable to me.

Having said that; if the report is true, there's a serious racism issue in the Seachicken locker room.







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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/26/2014 3:57:42 AM   
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Charles Barkley adds his two cents:

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While appearing on “Afternoons with Anthony Gargano and Rob Ellis,” Barkley was asked about a rumor that Seattle Seahawks QB Russell Wilson was getting criticism from his black teammates for not being, quote, “black enough.”

Barkley went on a long monologue on the subject: ”Unfortunately, as I tell my white friends, we as black people, we’re never going to be successful, not because of you white people, but because of other black people. When you’re black, you have to deal with so much crap in your life from other black people. It’s a dirty, dark secret; I’m glad it’s coming out.”

Barkley said that young black men who do well in school are accused of “acting white” by their peers. “One of the reasons we’re never going to be successful as a whole, because of other black people. And for some reason we are brainwashed to think, if you’re not a thug or an idiot, you’re not black enough. If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent, and don’t break the law, you’re not a good black person. And it’s a dirty, dark secret.”



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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/26/2014 4:01:52 PM   
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Lynch Next To Leave Seattle?

Seattle Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch is not on the trading block, but many in the organization -- including Lynch -- do not expect the running back to be on the roster in 2015, according to sources.

The organization has grown tired of his ways, including pulling a no-show at the White House Super Bowl ceremony, his training camp holdout and his possible contribution to locker-room distractions...




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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/26/2014 5:18:38 PM   
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.....black enough for what ? Anybody say ?

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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/27/2014 7:30:15 PM   
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.....black enough for what ? Anybody say ?





black enough to fly to Mars?



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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/28/2014 8:10:02 AM   
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This story seems to have pretty much died out -- and now Sanity can return to his Obama rants and how he's not "American" enough.

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RE: Russel Wilson - "Not Black Enough"? - 10/28/2014 9:31:06 AM   
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This story seems to have pretty much died out -- and now Sanity can return to his Obama rants and how he's not "American" enough.

Nothing to see here.....move along
Sanity's interest in the comfortability of one young black man and his team was just a passing interest,certainly not meant to indicate ,in any way,that sanity is any more,or any less ,of a bigot

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