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First case of voter fraud confirmed in Rio Arriba Co.

The first case of voter fraud in New Mexico this election has been confirmed by the Rio Arriba County Clerk's Office.

According to the Rio Arriba County Clerk's office, a voter trying to cast an early ballot in Espanola Saturday was told he had already voted three days prior.

The man told poll workers he hadn't voted. He was then shown the signature of the voter, but he says it wasn't his signature.

Officials say they were able to confirm that the signature on the original ballot did not match the legal voter's signature on file.

Poll workers allowed the man to vote on a provisional ballot, but election officials will have to determine whether the provisional ballot can be counted. Elections officials have no legal means of actually verifying signatures or confirming identification of a voter...

...Rio Arriba County also fell under scrutiny just two years ago when campaign workers were caught offering alchol to voters.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3607682.shtml#.VFZUimceUt0

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When he raised the issue of filling out some of the unused ballots that are mailed to every household in the state this month, he was told by Meredith Hicks, the director of Work for Progress, a liberal group funded by Democratic Super PACS.: “That is not even like lying or something, if someone throws out a ballot, like if you want to fill it out you should do it.” She then brazenly offered O’Keefe, disguised as a middle-aged college instructor, a job with her group.

The video of O’Keefe’s encounters with other operatives is equally disturbing. He has a conversation with Greenpeace employee Christina Topping, and suggests he might have access to unused ballots from people who have recently moved out of college fraternity houses. “I mean it is putting the votes to good use,” she responds. “So really, truly, like yeah, that is awesome.”

Colorado secretary of state Scott Gessler, along with several county election clerks, have raised warning flags that a new state law that automatically mails a ballot to everyone is an engraved invitation to commit fraud. “Sending ballots to people who did not even ask for them or have moved out of state is asking for trouble” he told me. For example, little can stop someone who collects discarded ballots from trash cans, fills out the ballots, and mails them in. Election workers are supposed to compare signatures on registration records with signed ballots. But if a person has a “witness” who signs the ballot on the witness line, then the signatures do not have to match and the vote is counted.

Secretary of State Gessler had futile arguments with Democratic state legislators last year who insisted on ramming a bill through that mandated Colorado become the only state in the nation with both all-mail balloting and same-day registration.

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ORIGINAL: ElChupa

Truly, only a mentally ill democrat (well, that's an oxymoron) would say there is no voter fraud. http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3607682.shtml#.VFaLsofgByA and http://www.youngcons.com/awesome-24-things-you-must-have-an-id-to-purchase/

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ORIGINAL: YouName

This is asked everywhere, on every forum but let's try here too.
Can you americans please explain why you do not use ID cards or at least register cards (cards you have shown an ID card to get) for voting?
It's not like you live in a libertarian utopia without ID-cards...so where is the discrimination/problems in general with using them?

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


I think we should require all voters to have a US Passport.

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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


I think we should require all voters to have a US Passport.

Why not tattoo their social security numbers on their forearms?
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ORIGINAL: YouName

This is asked everywhere, on every forum but let's try here too.
Can you americans please explain why you do not use ID cards or at least register cards (cards you have shown an ID card to get) for voting?
It's not like you live in a libertarian utopia without ID-cards...so where is the discrimination/problems in general with using them?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: YouName

This is asked everywhere, on every forum but let's try here too.
Can you americans please explain why you do not use ID cards or at least register cards (cards you have shown an ID card to get) for voting?
It's not like you live in a libertarian utopia without ID-cards...so where is the discrimination/problems in general with using them?

Because we have a long history of certain sorts using such things against some elements of society so if we were to try and force everyone to get a specific ID it would result in a shit storm of epic proportions. So we have a patch work system where everyone has to fend for themselves and therefor the system is quite expensive and not uniform.

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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

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ORIGINAL: YouName

This is asked everywhere, on every forum but let's try here too.
Can you americans please explain why you do not use ID cards or at least register cards (cards you have shown an ID card to get) for voting?
It's not like you live in a libertarian utopia without ID-cards...so where is the discrimination/problems in general with using them?

Because if you say you want people to show ID in order to vote, you're accused of being racist. Apparently the DMV has special lines that move you through quick and easy if you're a Republican, but take forever and cost a fortune if you're a Democrat. I wish I knew, I just renewed my license a few months ago, I could have used that expedited line!

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

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ORIGINAL: YouName

This is asked everywhere, on every forum but let's try here too.
Can you americans please explain why you do not use ID cards or at least register cards (cards you have shown an ID card to get) for voting?
It's not like you live in a libertarian utopia without ID-cards...so where is the discrimination/problems in general with using them?

Because if you say you want people to show ID in order to vote, you're accused of being racist. Apparently the DMV has special lines that move you through quick and easy if you're a Republican, but take forever and cost a fortune if you're a Democrat. I wish I knew, I just renewed my license a few months ago, I could have used that expedited line!

Speaking as someone who didn't have a driver's license for 17 year.... If you do not drive or own a car and you live in a region with no public transit, it can be virtually impossible to get to the DMV to get a legal photo ID card. There is a vicious circle that people who have a car don't think about.....it's very difficult to get a decent job if you don't have reliable transportation to get to that job....but at the same time it is very difficult to afford a car and it's upkeep if you don't have a decent job to help pay for it.

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Speaking as someone who didn't have a driver's license for 17 year.... If you do not drive or own a car and you live in a region with no public transit, it can be virtually impossible to get to the DMV to get a legal photo ID card. There is a vicious circle that people who have a car don't think about.....it's very difficult to get a decent job if you don't have reliable transportation to get to that job....but at the same time it is very difficult to afford a car and it's upkeep if you don't have a decent job to help pay for it.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: YouName

This is asked everywhere, on every forum but let's try here too.
Can you americans please explain why you do not use ID cards or at least register cards (cards you have shown an ID card to get) for voting?
It's not like you live in a libertarian utopia without ID-cards...so where is the discrimination/problems in general with using them?

Because we have a long history of certain sorts using such things against some elements of society so if we were to try and force everyone to get a specific ID it would result in a shit storm of epic proportions. So we have a patch work system where everyone has to fend for themselves and therefor the system is quite expensive and not uniform.

Actually, we don't. And their is not a specific ID required. Their is a list of accepted IDs.

What DK did not note is that the same number of years of the south disenfranchising voters is outnumbered by the years of Democrats condoning and helping with illegal voting. But since they are the good guys, it does not really count as fraud.

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What DK did not note is that the same number of years of the south disenfranchising voters is outnumbered by the years of Democrats condoning and helping with illegal voting.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Because we have a long history of certain sorts using such things against some elements of society so if we were to try and force everyone to get a specific ID it would result in a shit storm of epic proportions. So we have a patch work system where everyone has to fend for themselves and therefor the system is quite expensive and not uniform.