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ORIGINAL: Moderator3

Thou shalt not involve moderators in your sadistic pranks.

It could be embarassin.

Just sayin.

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Philly was the worst for me.
But obviously the population is higher so there is bound to be more occurrences.
Even here in my very wealthy, rural, waspy New England town it happens. I honestly think demographic has little to do with it.
I got followed here two weeks ago by a group of 17 year old guys who would not stop trying to hit on me.
ETA page 9!

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

We were already told in this thread that a personally responsible lady would learn self defense or carry a gun.

We were also told that was a reasonable thing for a 14 year old.

I am trying to not "make every man a rapist"

Having already gone three rounds with another poster, I really wish to not be victim blamed again honestly.

To me it is a huge factor. A guy can likely outrun, out hit, and out fight me, even given any training. I agree it is a huge factor in why it being done to females is intimidating.

I also just feel women have no way to respond to this which is comfortable. Engaging them may go well, it may not, it will certainly encourage the behavior, which is at least irritating. If you call them out, they might get really aggressive. If you ignore them they might follow you for five blocks. A man is completely putting you in a position where they hold all the cards. It is objectifying and in my opinion, more often then not, aggressive. Obviously context is important. Even a hello can be scary in the appropriate context.

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ORIGINAL: YouName

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

We were already told in this thread that a personally responsible lady would learn self defense or carry a gun.

We were also told that was a reasonable thing for a 14 year old.

I am trying to not "make every man a rapist"

Having already gone three rounds with another poster, I really wish to not be victim blamed again honestly.

To me it is a huge factor. A guy can likely outrun, out hit, and out fight me, even given any training. I agree it is a huge factor in why it being done to females is intimidating.

I also just feel women have no way to respond to this which is comfortable. Engaging them may go well, it may not, it will certainly encourage the behavior, which is at least irritating. If you call them out, they might get really aggressive. If you ignore them they might follow you for five blocks. A man is completely putting you in a position where they hold all the cards. It is objectifying and in my opinion, more often then not, aggressive. Obviously context is important. Even a hello can be scary in the appropriate context.

Well I'm not going to go on a tirade about Community again but some places are different from others.
In some places carrying a gun is probably wise. Although pepperspray is probably safer. Though this goes no matter if someone tells you or doesn't tell you this.
The difference being that you're more comfortable when they don't since you Think you don't have to worry as much.

In other places you probably have nothing to worry about when someone "cat calls" you since then it's just rude or possibly flattering, depending on how you look at it or how drunk you are.

And we're back rudeness being the least of societies problems. Although some would probably say that it's where Everything starts.

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Why? Would talking about even such simple and obvious matters as this get you maligned as a 'feminazi' or similar?

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

We were already told in this thread that a personally responsible lady would learn self defense or carry a gun.

We were also told that was a reasonable thing for a 14 year old.

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ORIGINAL: YouName

Again though, I have to stand by it that after this discussion you can do better than Think it's disrespectful.

Either ignore it and Think nothing of it or perhaps even try to feel flattered that a simplelton thought that of you :-) They might even just be some random, slightly intoxicated dude that just spilled some beans Before cooking them.

There's as mentioned probably only good in not doing it (with some exceptions but then you're expecting it anyway). But at the same time you can make it less of a problem for yourself if you consider its implications.


EDIT. Also if you keep posting there's some reward in it apparently

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: littleladybug
Pray tell, what is a woman's "purpose"?

Her purpose is to carry the new generation safely into the world.
The man's purpose is jump start the process, but also see through the whole process by making sure no harm falls upon her and the new generation and they all survive healthy and well.

Of course, some women may choose not to use her gift anymore as too much sacrifices is involved, then it is her choice to choose a different path. Not everybody choose to embrace the gift they have.

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It was unfortunate that they were mostly black men on show, I'm not sure there were sinister reasons for that though. It might have been sensible to reshoot but maybe they didn't have the funding to do that. It didn't colour my opinion because I've experienced it personally from men of all colours, and in worse ways but I can see how it might colour some peoples views if this is their only experience of seeing it. You can definitely see that it added fuel to the racists arguments from the comments on YouTube. It's not a race issue so to portray it as possibly being so is wrong. The video is far from perfect but I still think its useful.

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Feminists are facing a lot of hate right now. I don't really get that, I mean feminism in its purest form is only about women having rights in society, who wouldn't want that?

It's interesting to see the backlash about it from males, a lot seem to have taken it like a personal attack. They seem to feel that all men are being demonised but they are the only ones actually saying that. I haven't read a single comment from a woman saying ALL MEN ARE EVIL or anything.

The video is a little confusing though about where the boundaries should be, I'm not sure why they left two of the comments in there. I think one person says "how are you this morning?", which isn't rude and and it doesn't seem to be accompanied by any other behaviour, so guys are like - what, we cant even say hello to people on the street any more? The male commenters have clung to that one statement though, ignored the rest and seem to have made the issue into one all about them now, dismissing the message of the video all together.It's mostly defensive bullshit, they cant really defend the actions of almost all of these males with any rational argument. It's like them being accused of being sexist (even though not all men were) has trumped the actual victims of the sexism.