DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Ads can and do influence the 'undecided' who claim not to vote party line. The whole problem with repubs is that they aren't conservatives. One could probably count on one hand the real conservatives in either house. ObamaCare was the 'conservative' approach to health care (1992-93 alternative to Hillarycare) until it was proposed by the dems. Then it became either a socialist govt. take over of health care or worse...communism. That very ignorance caused a swing and was purchased with right wing money and can and did cause the repubs to get out the vote to defeat dems...no matter most the other issues. Why do 1/3 of those regist. as repubs in Louisiana believe that the failures in the federal response to Katrina was Obama's incompetence ? Ignorance and M O N E Y !! Actually, Obamacare is only similar to the Republican plan from the 90's, but it's not the same. First, and foremost, the money spent by business on health care for employees or employee's medical savings accounts was a business deduction, and wasn't allowed to be counted towards gross income of the employee, and money's spent by the employees towards qualified health care costs and/or medical savings accounts was also tax deductible. So, rather than just threatening businesses and/or individuals with a tax fine for not being covered by a qualified health care plan, it also gave incentives for people to enroll. Imagine that; empowering people to take control of their own health care choices! No...mandating people take on the expense of their own health care 'choices' as well as the entire cost. The same as the repub plan of 92-93. Employers, i.e., the marketplace has made the decision to now tell all employees at a small enough company, health insurance will no longer be included as a benefit as a means of competing to get employees. The tax deductibility and flexibility vis-a-vis health care costs to the extent businesses and individuals incur any...are still in place and has not changed. If I am a small business I will shuck all health insurance contributions to my employees and save myself $1000's or more per month. Plus, those employees are no longer a part of a large group offering discounts because of the spreading of risk being removed...premiums go up. Imagine that. There were subsidies in the HEART Act of 1993. There were no tax penalties on an employer for spending "too much" on your employee's health care. Tax deductions for qualified health care spending is a carrot to get businesses and people to get insurance and take control of their health. What "carrot" does Obamacare offer? Nothing. Subsidies aren't incentives. Tax penalties are not carrots, they are sticks. While the HEART Act of 1993 did include fines for someone not getting insured, it certainly offered a lot more carrots to those who did get insured. And, there were provisions in the HEART Act of 1993 for creation of large groups for risk reduction purposes. Look it up.
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What I support: - A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
- Personal Responsibility
- Help for the truly needy
- Limited Government
- Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
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