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Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party (wha... - 11/6/2014 10:26:04 AM   
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Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party (what was it like?)

I agree with their goals, and identify with their volunteers, as much as I can tell from the local web pages.
http://www.twistedteas.org/
http://www.geocities.ws/cfnm_party_house/

But, I don't see any parties on the upcoming calendar
http://soj.org/calendar/

Did the ladies' tea party society die?
Is it still going?
What's it like?

I've read everything already at the official ladies tea party web sites for my area, but I'd like to know what it's like (both flavors) from someone not advertising or marketing for the ladies tea party organization.
I just want a balanced view from someone who has been there.
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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 11:26:46 AM   
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The bad news is that there won't be many people here who've attended. It's not the kind of kink most of us we do.

The good news is that there are are some events in California:

https://fetlife.com/events/291685

https://fetlife.com/groups/54537



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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 12:38:30 PM   
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Just reading about this brings back fond memories of what was once my favorite fem Domme setting. A place where dominant women could sit and relax, have a massage, a manicure, pedicure and a human footstool whilst being served nibbles and drinks by well trained submissives. One of the things the boys used to do before the ladies arrived was de-thorn the roses. There poor fingers were always so sore before they even started but it showed their absolute devotion for the job.

The place is still running but due to management changes its lost its once impeccable reputation. I'm glad I knew it in the early days because it was great fun for everyone involved.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 12:54:52 PM   
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Thanks Steven for looking up the next event on that FetLife web site.

I created a FetLife account in order to view the two suggestions which turned out to be a placeholder for the March 2015 event, which, given it's almost a half year away, doesn't even say where it will be held (whether in San Francisco or San Jose).
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Saturday, April 11, 2015 · 8:00 PM –12:00 AM
Location: TBD
TBD @ map
Cost: Online Prepurchase required. Ticket sales available 03/2015
Dress code: Based on Theme.
Description: Clothed Female Top and nude male bottom party.
Placeholder until March 2015.


By looking at the events people are going to, I lurked on someone who said they'd attend, to find their other events.

So, it looks like some kind of 'party' is being held this week, on this Friday, November 07, 2014 at something called the South Bay Spot, in San Jose, which I wasn't aware of. It's open to registered members and their guests, so, I probably have to sit this one out, until I figure out how to be a member or even what it is.

Looking further at DS' links, I found there is a specific group for the bay area called CFnm Bay Area, which, I also had never heard of, but which might be exciting if it accepts submissive men.

I'll keep searching, as all of this is new to me, but that's why I had asked what others, who have been to the parties, felt about them.
BTW, were all the men gorgeous Mr. Universe models? Or are some of them frumpy older men, like I am?

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 1:11:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MariaB

Just reading about this brings back fond memories


Thanks for that review. So, it was good, but going downhill, from what I gather on your comment.
I wonder if all the men looked like this though?

I hope not, because I don't look like that. I'm a normal older guy. Frumpy is what I'd call my body, so I hope service is important at these parties, and not just looks.

Searching around more, I found this interview, which says, in part, this about the inherent power exchange of CFnm gatherings.
quote:

For most others, including myself, the fact that CFNM involves an inequity and, if you will, an “unfairness” in that the men must be nude while the women are not. And this setting is because of the women wanting it so. This is the defining characteristic that makes CFNM different and unique. The male’s nudity places him in a position of being objectified and exploited by women subject to their whims and desires. It carries with it control and empowerment of women. It is a reversal of the traditional exploitation of nudity, and thus fits well with feminist views.

When outside the context of sex in the bedroom, mandated nudity often places one in a vulnerable and exposed state. This is why prisoners are often stripped naked - to humiliate them and break their will. The original concept of “naked” as first described in Genesis of Adam and Eve occurred right after their transgression, and was used to show vulnerability. In any confrontation, vulnerability defines a position of inferiority against superiority. Hence, the mandated CFNM rules of our parties establish a priori, female power, control and superiority.


There are more links over here, but, other than the party next March that Steven found, there's nothing there about future Ladies' Tea Parties.

I guess my best bet is that link to the play party this friday at the South Bay Spot, but even so, that party does not seem to be the same type (I actually don't know what kind of party that is as I'm not a member).


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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 1:16:44 PM   
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Yes. It was just your plain jane tea party, but the men were naked. It wasn't really all that interesting, but I did enjoy the socialization.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 1:27:47 PM   
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You become a member, typically by going to a munch, or orientation meet the owner or leader, then hear about events, show up pay membership dues, and there you are. You're a member

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

Thanks Steven for looking up the next event on that FetLife web site.

I created a FetLife account in order to view the two suggestions which turned out to be a placeholder for the March 2015 event, which, given it's almost a half year away, doesn't even say where it will be held (whether in San Francisco or San Jose).
quote:


Saturday, April 11, 2015 · 8:00 PM –12:00 AM
Location: TBD
TBD @ map
Cost: Online Prepurchase required. Ticket sales available 03/2015
Dress code: Based on Theme.
Description: Clothed Female Top and nude male bottom party.
Placeholder until March 2015.


By looking at the events people are going to, I lurked on someone who said they'd attend, to find their other events.

So, it looks like some kind of 'party' is being held this week, on this Friday, November 07, 2014 at something called the South Bay Spot, in San Jose, which I wasn't aware of. It's open to registered members and their guests, so, I probably have to sit this one out, until I figure out how to be a member or even what it is.

Looking further at DS' links, I found there is a specific group for the bay area called CFnm Bay Area, which, I also had never heard of, but which might be exciting if it accepts submissive men.

I'll keep searching, as all of this is new to me, but that's why I had asked what others, who have been to the parties, felt about them.
BTW, were all the men gorgeous Mr. Universe models? Or are some of them frumpy older men, like I am?




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For someone must stand up for what's right
'Cause where there's a man who has no voice
There ours shall go singing

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 1:35:00 PM   
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but, other than the party next March that Steven found, there's nothing there about future Ladies' Tea Parties.


I don't remember if I mentioned this Ladies' Tea Party which is for "Saturday 10/18/14, Sirens and Pirates", but, it looks like I missed that one also.

So, I guess, I'm asking now THREE questions in one........

1. Have you any experience to relate with respect to CFnm dynamics with the "Ladies Tea & Discussion Society" parties?

2. Have you any experience to relate with respect to CFnm dynamics with the "CFnm Bay Area" parties?

3. Have you any experience to relate with respect to CFnm dynamics with the "South Bay Spot" parties?






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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 1:38:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Yes. It was just your plain jane tea party, but the men were naked. It wasn't really all that interesting, but I did enjoy the socialization.


It's supposed to be, I think, based on what I read, the opposite power dynamic than is normal.
The women are supposed to enjoy that (as do the volunteers).
Is it not a power dynamic thrill for you?

quote:

A teaserver is there to make the afternoon as carefree and pleasant for the ladies as possible. You need to realize that this is a TEA party. The ladies will drink tea and eat sandwiches and discuss things. They are NOT going to play with you. You are ONLY there to serve.

A teaserver sets up and serves tea, cleans up after the party, and departs quietly. Serving attire consists of a neatly cleaned and cared for birthday suit and a black bow tie. The server may speak only to the serving mistress or to the hostess unless answering a direct question, or if necessary to ascertain the wishes of a lady he is serving.


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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 2:29:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crumpets

Thanks Steven for looking up the next event on that FetLife web site.

I created a FetLife account in order to view the two suggestions which turned out to be a placeholder for the March 2015 event, which, given it's almost a half year away, doesn't even say where it will be held (whether in San Francisco or San Jose).
quote:


Saturday, April 11, 2015 · 8:00 PM –12:00 AM
Location: TBD
TBD @ map
Cost: Online Prepurchase required. Ticket sales available 03/2015
Dress code: Based on Theme.
Description: Clothed Female Top and nude male bottom party.
Placeholder until March 2015.


By looking at the events people are going to, I lurked on someone who said they'd attend, to find their other events.

So, it looks like some kind of 'party' is being held this week, on this Friday, November 07, 2014 at something called the South Bay Spot, in San Jose, which I wasn't aware of. It's open to registered members and their guests, so, I probably have to sit this one out, until I figure out how to be a member or even what it is.

Looking further at DS' links, I found there is a specific group for the bay area called CFnm Bay Area, which, I also had never heard of, but which might be exciting if it accepts submissive men.

I'll keep searching, as all of this is new to me, but that's why I had asked what others, who have been to the parties, felt about them.
BTW, were all the men gorgeous Mr. Universe models? Or are some of them frumpy older men, like I am?



crumpets, you don't know how impressive that is, to have someone do their own research and prowl around to learn. Far too many want everything handed to them. Good on you!

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The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 3:59:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crumpets

...

So, I guess, I'm asking now THREE questions in one........

1. Have you any experience to relate with respect to CFnm dynamics with the "Ladies Tea & Discussion Society" parties?

...



Yes, I used to attend many year ago. The one's I attended were formal and thematic. I especially enjoyed the Christmas tea put on annually by a wonderful Domme who unfortunately recently passed away.

All serving was naked and on the sub's knees, and while some of the subs were yummy in and of themselves, most were obviously not selected for any physical attribute. Any sub who wanted to serve had to complete a training that was only offered twice a year. The subs earlier prepared all the food that accompanied the tea as well. It was not even close to a play party. It was very formal, no touching, no play at all. I enjoyed it mostly as a very low key way to hang out with like-minded women.

The subs did have the opportunity to offer a private foot massage to the Domme/s of his choice, but no guarantees and no pouting if the offer was declined.

If you're looking for Bay Area events you should check out the Society of Janus calendar: http://soj.org/calendar/

Have fun!


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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 4:31:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux
Yes, I used to attend many year ago.

Thank you Miss Marie for your observations.
Is that "years ago" part another vote for the ladies' tea party going a downhill that MariaB and LittleGirlHeart alluded to?

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ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux
All serving was naked and on the sub's knees, and while some of the subs were yummy in and of themselves, most were obviously not selected for any physical attribute.


This is an IMPORTANT distinction, particularly since I'm not a body builder myself.
From those comments, am I to infer that the frumpy looks of some of the naked men put you off?
If so, then the dynamic is a bit more than just power exchange, but, voyeuristic also.

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ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux
Any sub who wanted to serve had to complete a training that was only offered twice a year. The subs earlier prepared all the food that accompanied the tea as well. It was not even close to a play party. It was very formal, no touching, no play at all. I enjoyed it mostly as a very low key way to hang out with like-minded women.


They do explain that dynamic, that the men are NEVER to be forward, and the CONTROL is ALWAYS up to the ladies, and that PLAY is not involved at the party itself. All this, they said, was so that the WOMEN would be comfortable.
Given that, were you comfortable there? Or was it uncomfortable for you?

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ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux
If you're looking for Bay Area events you should check out the Society of Janus calendar: http://soj.org/calendar/

I did check that first. Thanks.
It looks like this operation also offers CFnm parties in the bay area.

Their web site says almost nothing, so, I sent them an email asking for when the next party is.





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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 4:43:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissToYouRedux
The subs did have the opportunity to offer a private foot massage to the Domme/s of his choice


On the topic of the massage, according to this page, it's VERY IMPORTANT for the subs to offer the hand or foot massage.

From what I can tell by reading, its the ONLY service they can offer to the ladies.
It doesn't say this for sure, but the description in the Ladies Tea Party site implies that the women signal their desire to be offered a hand or foot massage simply by taking off their shoes (which is the only article of clothing, apparently, the ladies are allowed to remove).
quote:

As there will be foot massages and hand massages later in the festivities, you may remove your shoes at any point you wish, but please be conscious of any foot odor that may interfere with the dining pleasure of the other guests. Once you have had your foot bath and massage, if you choose to leave your shoes off, that is perfectly acceptable.

If you do not wish to be touched by a particular male who offers you a foot massage, you should say, "Not right now, please, perhaps in a short time?" This is a graceful way to let the servers know you would prefer a different server. If it is a mixed server tea, and you would prefer to have a server of the gender other than the one who has asked you, you may say, "I'd prefer to have Miss X attend me, if she would not mind." Said with a smile, this will not be offensive. Please don't say, "I don't want a XXX man touching me!" (This happened once, and it upset the male server who was on the receiving end of the exchange.) If you wish, you can take your hostess or the training Mistress aside early in party and tell her that you are not comfortable with men touching you, and she will be happy to pass that knowledge on to the servers.





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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 5:01:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crumpets

It doesn't say this for sure, but the description in the Ladies Tea Party site implies that the women signal their desire to be offered a hand or foot massage simply by taking off their shoes ...



Sorry, at the many teas I attended I never saw a Domme do that even once. lol But then, it was a long time ago.

** Edited to add that the massages were always in a private area in a different part of the house anyway, and if we were getting a foot massage, our shoes were removed by the sub there.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 6:27:00 PM   
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No. It was nice to be waited on, but they were not thrilling.
quote:

ORIGINAL: crumpets


quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Yes. It was just your plain jane tea party, but the men were naked. It wasn't really all that interesting, but I did enjoy the socialization.


It's supposed to be, I think, based on what I read, the opposite power dynamic than is normal.
The women are supposed to enjoy that (as do the volunteers).
Is it not a power dynamic thrill for you?

quote:

A teaserver is there to make the afternoon as carefree and pleasant for the ladies as possible. You need to realize that this is a TEA party. The ladies will drink tea and eat sandwiches and discuss things. They are NOT going to play with you. You are ONLY there to serve.

A teaserver sets up and serves tea, cleans up after the party, and departs quietly. Serving attire consists of a neatly cleaned and cared for birthday suit and a black bow tie. The server may speak only to the serving mistress or to the hostess unless answering a direct question, or if necessary to ascertain the wishes of a lady he is serving.





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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/6/2014 11:50:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart
No. It was nice to be waited on, but they were not thrilling.


That seems to be the general consensus.

I guess, the huge difference between the sexes, is why a bunch of naked servants isn't as interesting to the womenfolk, as to the men.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/7/2014 12:58:38 AM   
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The more you can offer, the more likely you will get a position. Most male subs don't know how to give a good foot massage and so its worth learning the proper techniques but because every male sub is going to claim he can do this, look at other things you can offer.

hand massage and manicure
foot manicure
shoulder and upper back massage
Indian head massage
Henna artist.
Japanese tea ceremony (my favourite)

Don't worry about all the guys looking like young hunks. Some of the most popular subs for this sort of thing are your age. These parties are looking for honest reliable men and not hunks.

BTW...the party I was talking about is in the UK and not one of the ones on your link.


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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/7/2014 7:11:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MariaB
Indian head massage
Henna artist.
Japanese tea ceremony (my favourite)

Thanks for the suggestions of what services would be valued... I had to look up these last three. LOL

Indian Head Massage
Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAxxeEYBD84

Henna Artist
Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVms9lmQGzM

Japanese Tea Ceremony
Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LOZe_FSl2o

quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB
These parties are looking for honest reliable men and not hunks.

Thanks for the encouraging words. Now I know how a Rubenesque woman might feel on her way for a waitress job! :)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB
BTW...the party I was talking about is in the UK and not one of the ones on your link.


Thanks for clarifying. I'm sure the flavor of each is different, but, so far, the three women's observations have been remarkably consistent, and that's informative, in and of itself.

Thanks for your ideas, and suggestions, and especially your encouragement. We subs need all that sometimes, as this really is all about being an emotionally rewarding endeavor, after all, serving worthy ladies.

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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/7/2014 8:19:29 PM   
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Yes . I just do not find nudity in it self arousing , thrilling, interesting or of interest . I am a nudist so nudity is just whoopty doo. I know that some find naked women more interesting , simply because they are visual creatures . The party was out of town , it took maybe and hour or less to get there . I would not travel for such parties again , they were not something interesting enough to warrant the gas and time it took .
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ORIGINAL: crum

quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart
No. It was nice to be waited on, but they were not thrilling.


That seems to be the general consensus.

I guess, the huge difference between the sexes, is why a bunch of naked servants isn't as interesting to the womenfolk, as to the men.



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RE: Have you personaly ever been to a Ladies Tea Party ... - 11/7/2014 9:14:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart
Yes . I just do not find nudity in it self arousing , thrilling, interesting or of interest .


The CONCEPT that you speak of is interesting, because nudity, in and of itself, is one thing, while the EMPOWERMENT of the females not being naked (while the males are) is SUPPOSED to be another thing altogether.

Likewise, the COMPARISON of the males is supposed to be, based on what I read, part of the fun, where, in effect, the women turn the tables on the men, who, historically, compared breasts, buns, and the like, between women (not that the women weren't willing partners in allowing those comparisons to occur).

So, I find it interesting that, for you, the nudity, in and of itself, was ho hum, as, the tea-party sites prophesier:
quote:

The male's nudity places him in a position of being objectified and exploited by women subject to their whims and desires. It carries with it control and empowerment of women. It is a reversal of the traditional exploitation of nudity, and thus fits well with feminist views. When outside the context of sex in the bedroom, mandated nudity often places one in a vulnerable and exposed state. This is why prisoners are often stripped naked - to humiliate them and break their will. The original concept of “naked” as first described in Genesis of Adam and Eve occurred right after their transgression, and was used to show vulnerability. In any confrontation, vulnerability defines a position of inferiority against superiority. Hence, the mandated CFNM rules of our parties establish a priori, female power, control and superiority.






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