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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 12:28:11 PM   
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As if Barack Obama offering to service them on his knees is hostile


He just wants his cum stains too .. He doesn't want to be shown up by Slick Willy

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 1:24:03 PM   
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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 1:27:17 PM   
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Sorry but I am having a hard time trying to figure out why this has you upset.

I think "because he's an imbecile" covers it pretty succinctly.

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 3:46:00 PM   
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The wheels fell off of that clown car a long time ago

dismissed as not even a talking point.

You're dumb, nyah nyah.

Seriously?

yer new here,aren't ya?



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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 3:55:04 PM   
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The only question here, is Barack really that stupid, or does he hate the United States that much



Fuck making the world a better place for future generations, eh Sanity.

Name the two worst polluters in the world ?

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 4:11:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		The so-called argument is much simpler than all of this. It is capitalism vs the climate...profits vs pollution and China is THE great profit center. So China has been, continues to and will always...pollute all they fucking want to make bucks.

Thus, the western capitalist doesn't give a shit if the Chinese choke on their east Berlin-like carbon rich air until they need to bring out 300 million more farmers to build our t-shirts, tennis shoes and toys. Ok, ok iPhones and tablets too.

Besides, with Phoenix, AZ's last record low soon a generation old, (1990) with 144 new record high temps and 238 new record high low temps since, meaning soon it will not get below 90 at night ever again, republican govt. won't be the only reason Americans will be moving to Canada.




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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 4:12:10 PM   
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C02 isnt pollution any more than oxygen is

Under this wonderful new deal, China can keep massively increasing C02 emissions through 2030 at which time they PROMISE to cap emissions while we will continue drastically cutting our C02 emissions from now on, dramatically harming our economy in the process while theirs continues to grow and prosper

They saw Barack coming a mile away, as they say



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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 4:22:18 PM   
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Again

C02 isnt pollution any more than oxygen is

Under this wonderful new deal, China can keep massively increasing C02 emissions through 2030 at which time they PROMISE to cap emissions while we will continue drastically cutting our C02 emissions from now on, dramatically harming our economy in the process while theirs continues to grow and prosper

They saw Barack coming a mile away, as they say





Again, you are talking bollocks. CO2 emissions are bad for the climate, try using Google..

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 4:22:33 PM   
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Again

C02 isnt pollution any more than oxygen is

Under this wonderful new deal, China can keep massively increasing C02 emissions through 2030 at which time they PROMISE to cap emissions while we will continue drastically cutting our C02 emissions from now on, dramatically harming our economy in the process while theirs continues to grow and prosper

They saw Barack coming a mile away, as they say



Soo your saying that we SHOULD actively seek to produce as much pollution as china,for the sake of our economy?
Cause that just sounds insane....

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 4:33:42 PM   
Sanity


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Again, you are talking bollocks. CO2 emissions are bad for the climate, try using Google..


Even if that were true, which man-caused Global Warming is a proven hoax... How would it help anything to shift all of Americas jobs and C02 emissions to China, which is building a new coal power plant every week to handle the increased load










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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 4:47:48 PM   
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Again, you are talking bollocks. CO2 emissions are bad for the climate, try using Google..


Even if that were true, which man-caused Global Warming is a proven hoax... How would it help anything to shift all of Americas jobs and C02 emissions to China, which is building a new coal power plant every week to handle the increased load



Proven by who ?

You need to get with the times, American firms are rushing to China to get a supply of cheap labour.

Its called CAPITALISM, but dont tell me, you want the Goverment to intervene because those nasty capitalists aint providing as many jobs in the US these days.

Laughable bro, just laughable.

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 5:00:57 PM   
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Again

C02 isnt pollution any more than oxygen is

Under this wonderful new deal, China can keep massively increasing C02 emissions through 2030 at which time they PROMISE to cap emissions while we will continue drastically cutting our C02 emissions from now on, dramatically harming our economy in the process while theirs continues to grow and prosper

They saw Barack coming a mile away, as they say



Once again, C02 emissions are only part of the problem as all petro and coal carbon energy sources fail to completely burn it all thus leaving un-burnt hydrocarbons (CnH2n+2) in the air and IS pollution. The CO2 is a greenhouse gas, the unburnt hydrocarbons are why we see masks worn in Chinese cities...which do little good. Then add in carbon monoxide (CO) and we have a wonderful, very profitable stew of early death.

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 5:18:51 PM   
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You need to get with the times, American firms are rushing to China to get a supply of cheap labour.


The entire world is "rushing to China" and a big part of the draw is cheap coal electricity, which China will continue building a massive new coal plant every week under this agreement for years and years to come

China also has a friendlier business climate and lower taxes - in a communist country than in the USA

And sure, cheap labor

You cant answer the question, can you. How does it help "climate change" or anything else to continue shifting Americas jobs and C02 emissions to China, so they can overtake the worlds economies and use the riches to continue their fast paced buildup of their massive military in order to dominate the world

They are becoming very militarily aggressive and belligerent, somehow that has escaped everyones attention







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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 5:24:27 PM   
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Again, you are talking bollocks. CO2 emissions are bad for the climate, try using Google..


Even if that were true, which man-caused Global Warming is a proven hoax.


Proven by who? If you even knew anything about science, there is no such thing as proving something 100%, as there is always a sliver of uncertainty about any field in science. With that said, the vast body of evidence and scientific research points toward the conclusion that CO2 (which traps and re-radiates infrared radiation) is one of the major contributors to the current changes we're seeing in our climate.

Look pal, you can claim anything you want, but you're gonna have to back it up. If you honestly want to get into this debate, you're going to loose. The last guy I debated on this topic, Phydeaux, was a much smarter guy than you, and I still managed to tear apart his arguments piece by piece. I'll likely have a much easier time doing the same thing with you, and I'll enjoy each and every moment of it.











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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 5:36:21 PM   
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You need to get with the times, American firms are rushing to China to get a supply of cheap labour.


The entire world is "rushing to China" and a big part of the draw is cheap coal electricity, which China will continue building a massive new coal plant every week under this agreement for years and years to come

Bullshit. Power has nothing to do with it. It is all about labor cost. actually electricity costs in china are not unusually low compared to the rest of the developing world or even the US. China averages $0.08kw/h while the US averages $0.12, Mexico and Canada both average $0.10kw/h.  Once you take into account shipping costs there is simply no way manufacturers would chase those small differences in electricity costs without some other much larger incentive.
http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/average-electricity-prices-kwh

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 5:44:16 PM   
Sanity


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Do you ever tell the truth?

That question is entirely rhetorical, I have learned that you do not



And look at the trends

Currently Obama is doing his best to choke off Americas affordable energy, while China is massively expanding theirs



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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 5:54:21 PM   
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You need to get with the times, American firms are rushing to China to get a supply of cheap labour.


The entire world is "rushing to China" and a big part of the draw is cheap coal electricity, which China will continue building a massive new coal plant every week under this agreement for years and years to come

China also has a friendlier business climate and lower taxes - in a communist country than in the USA

And sure, cheap labor

You cant answer the question, can you. How does it help "climate change" or anything else to continue shifting Americas jobs and C02 emissions to China, so they can overtake the worlds economies and use the riches to continue their fast paced buildup of their massive military in order to dominate the world

They are becoming very militarily aggressive and belligerent, somehow that has escaped everyones attention


Jobs aren't going to China -- in fact, China has been losing manufacturing jobs. And manufacturing output in the US has risen.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/02/03/that-giant-sucking-sound-of-manufacturing-jobs-going-to-china/

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 6:02:00 PM   
Sanity


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Got anything more recent

Like this?

Report: America Lost 2.7 Million Jobs to China in 10 Years
From 2001 to 2011, America lost millions of jobs due in part to Chinese currency manipulation.

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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 6:04:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Recent? It's 2001-2011. And it's about currency manipulation, not business climate and cheap labor.


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RE: The Sucker-In-Chief strikes a deal... - 11/12/2014 6:09:10 PM   
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Recent? It's 2001-2011. And it's about currency manipulation, not business climate and cheap labor.




Check your facts

Mine is 2001 - 2011

Your article is from 2012 but your very suspect statistics are from 1995 - 2002

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