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DerangedUnit -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:01:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xgender

Huh. I love going down on my partners. But, it's most definitely not just for me. I guess, Greta and DerangedUnit, I'd better bone up on my other tools ;)


I do love when a guy can pitch a good line


P.s. greta: I do believe that was the first time anyone has ever said I described something perfectly... the fact that that's what it was is now going to be in my permanent arsenal of 'awkward one liners to make people uncomfortable'




xgender -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:02:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: xgender
Expecting any given man to know how any given woman gets off is - well - silly.

But I don't expect any given man to know how any given woman gets off.
I am a straight talker when it comes to sex, I will tell a man straight, no oral allowed, before he decides whether he still wants to have sex with me. About 70% men, it's a deal breaker, the other 30% keep nagging me to compromise, even after agreeing to no oral.
These are vanillas anyway. I don't do casual sex with doms, unless that dom is happy with vanilla sex which is unlikely any of them would agree to.


The masculine part of me is cowering behind my feminine side. ;-)




Greta75 -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:04:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xgender
The masculine part of me is cowering behind my feminine side. ;-)

If you have magical fingers, you are sex god to me.
If you have magical tongue, need to find a woman who will appreciate all that tongue magic.




xgender -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:08:46 AM)

After being kept in a virtual cage for 8 years, trust me, everything about me is magical. ;-)

(I used to work with my hands and had calloused, hard and ugly fingers. Then I got into the arts. Now my fingers sports a manicure and are soft...How I roll. )




Greta75 -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:14:23 AM)


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I used to work with my hands and had calloused, hard and ugly fingers. T

My x-husband had calloused and rough fingers and hands. I enjoyed his touch alot! The roughness, the scratchiness, it feels very masculine, like how a man's hands should feel like.






DerangedUnit -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:18:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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I used to work with my hands and had calloused, hard and ugly fingers. T

My x-husband had calloused and rough fingers and hands. I enjoyed his touch alot! The roughness, the scratchiness, it feels very masculine, like how a man's hands should feel like.




Me too, girls like things hard




xgender -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:19:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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I used to work with my hands and had calloused, hard and ugly fingers. T

My x-husband had calloused and rough fingers and hands. I enjoyed his touch alot! The roughness, the scratchiness, it feels very masculine, like how a man's hands should feel like.





Ah yes. I could have guessed. You have an interesting makeup Greta. I imagine it takes a very secure man to match you...




FieryOpal -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:20:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

Agreed. What I was contesting was your statement: "Unless you are a person who has low to no self-esteem, you don't gravitate to those types of individuals." Because that's not actually the case, hooking up is quite the rage among women who are younger than you.

'Those types of individuals' specifically referred to someone who wants something for nothing, a selfish user who takes what he can get and sucks people dry. The fact that money gets injected into the discussion at a later point is irrelevant. (Lots of guys wave money at women, and in most cases, this adds insult to injury unless the woman is already a BDSM provider or sex worker). I never implied that this had to do with casual hook-ups where it's usually understood that this is intended for mutual pleasure and satisfaction, not merely for the guy to get his itch scratched. If that's all he or any other guy desires, then they need to be prepared to pay, if money is all they have to offer in exchange.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

I've been in a monogamous relationship for 6 years now so none of this is really relevant to me anymore, but my 20's were a damn good time.

We've all sown our wild oats. Maturity tends to come with age, and I'm sure you're a lot more content in your stable LTR than you were when you were hunting around for your next hook-up back in your 20s.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

I don't think a no strings attached hookup has got the best chance of success around here (think I mentioned that), he'd have a much better chance at a play party. But I don't think it's too much to ask, as in I don't think the request actually warrants a thread to publicly ridicule the guy. A thread specifically put in the random stupidity section to get an extra dig in.

You give me far too much credit. I had originally considered setting up this thread as a bona fide poll. But thanks for the thought. [:)]
I don't know what kind of play parties you've been to, but I can't see anybody giving some guy with a spitting fetish who essentially just walked up off the street the time of day. Why someone would think that he would have better success on line soliciting for favors is beyond me, sub-bottom or Dom-top, makes no difference.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

Thanks for the stats, I hadn't been aware of the ratios and you probably know how I like numbers [:D]

I am curious though, how does this one fit into the conversation? What was the thought process that made this relevant?

Um, the relatively few times I go over on P&R threads has made this abundantly clear. :p

Here I will admit that I was getting a dig in on you males, esp. the ones who go around touting that men and women are all the same and our only basic differences are anatomical. We also think and feel differently, our thinking and emotive processes aren't the same or identical.




xgender -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:21:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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I used to work with my hands and had calloused, hard and ugly fingers. T

My x-husband had calloused and rough fingers and hands. I enjoyed his touch alot! The roughness, the scratchiness, it feels very masculine, like how a man's hands should feel like.




Me too, girls like things hard


Ah, DerangedUnit, some girls (often Bi girls from my experience) like both soft and hard at the same time. That's me. ;-)




Greta75 -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:25:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xgender
Ah yes. I could have guessed. You have an interesting makeup Greta. I imagine it takes a very secure man to match you...

I have to agree, the most perfect man for me right now, is sooo smouldering in self-confidence, it's crazy. Like I refuse to tell him how wonderful he is, or his head will explode, when you first meet him, you think his just bragging and likes to brag alot about how great he is. But as you know him, he walks every single talk, every single bit he says he is, he really is. He lives it and breathe it, and is confident about what he is and extremely positive about people. He calls himself generous and a giving person, and he really is all that, the most selfless man I ever met. Never insecure about anything. Too bad..., he also nags me about licking and he does not identify himself as a dominant nor does he have any desire to be one or anything bdsm.




xgender -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:35:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: xgender
Ah yes. I could have guessed. You have an interesting makeup Greta. I imagine it takes a very secure man to match you...

I have to agree, the most perfect man for me right now, is sooo smouldering in self-confidence, it's crazy. Like I refuse to tell him how wonderful he is, or his head will explode, when you first meet him, you think his just bragging and likes to brag alot about how great he is. But as you know him, he walks every single talk, every single bit he says he is, he really is. He lives it and breathe it, and is confident about what he is and extremely positive about people. He calls himself generous and a giving person, and he really is all that, the most selfless man I ever met. Never insecure about anything. Too bad..., he also nags me about licking and he does not identify himself as a dominant nor does he have any desire to be one or anything bdsm.



Heh, my masculine side is quiet and reserved - though effin fierce when the time comes - while my feminine side is outwardly confident and assertive. Go figure.

It's too bad your mate doesn't match well with your kink. I just got out of a relationship that was effectively like that - more than a decade - and I am now committed to dating only kink friendly folks. At least for the time being...




GotSteel -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:39:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
You really described it perfectly, it's exactly like having slugs in your panties.


Damn that was a disturbing mental image, the worst part....someone reading this is probably running out to find slugs right now.




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:42:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
You really described it perfectly, it's exactly like having slugs in your panties.


Damn that was a disturbing mental image, the worst part....someone reading this is probably running out to find slugs right now.


Got a coffee can full. They sound more effective than june bugs.

Jus sayin




Greta75 -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:43:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xgender
It's too bad your mate doesn't match well with your kink. I just got out of a relationship that was effectively like that - more than a decade - and I am now committed to dating only kink friendly folks. At least for the time being...

Yes, my x-husband was vanilla too. So I have been married to one. While this man is perfect for me in personality and character. But I fear his sex drive cannot match mine in long term. He has very low sex drive as well. And I don't fancy a lifetime of barely any sex again. My x-husband had low sex drive too.

I think one of the reasons why I look for dominant men because I also get the feeling that, if I want to find a man who has a high sex drive, it's a higher probability in dominant men.




DerangedUnit -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:48:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: xgender
It's too bad your mate doesn't match well with your kink. I just got out of a relationship that was effectively like that - more than a decade - and I am now committed to dating only kink friendly folks. At least for the time being...

Yes, my x-husband was vanilla too. So I have been married to one. While this man is perfect for me in personality and character. But I fear his sex drive cannot match mine in long term. He has very low sex drive as well. And I don't fancy a lifetime of barely any sex again. My x-husband had low sex drive too.

I think one of the reasons why I look for dominant men because I also get the feeling that, if I want to find a man who has a high sex drive, it's a higher probability in dominant men.



Probably a lower that's why they need to hit things lol

I kid but actually all the guys I've known with high sex drives wouldnt hit a girl, guys that couldn't get it up... full arsenals




sexyred1 -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:51:44 AM)

You know it is fascinating to read some posts that generalize that all men.women do this or all men/women do that.

Greta in particular amazes me with her blanket assumptions and condemnations about men and women.

When it comes to oral sex, for every one of you who disgustingly conjured up images of "slugs", there are women like me who get off like tidal waves from it.

There are also many men who lick because they love it or they know their partner loves it and as many who don't.

I never met a guy who didn't love it and if I did, he would be gone.

It's fine to share your thoughts on something without putting down everyone else.

Slugs? Really?

Charming, ladies, just charming.




DerangedUnit -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 6:57:44 AM)

And some people even like having conversations without attempting to cower to each individual persons form of political correctness. Everyone knows, no one ever means every single person. Hell, even someone who says abusing animals is wrong has most likely wanted to kick a dog in their life. The point being, let sleeping dogs lie.




FieryOpal -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 7:00:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I never met a guy who didn't love it and if I did, he would be gone.


>>> ^QFT^ <<<
Guys who really get into it have had positive experiences doing it and usually genuinely enjoy pleasing a woman. Otherwise, they wouldn't get so disappointed at not being given the opportunity to show you what an attentive lover they are. Also there are some women who can't get off any other way, or so I've heard.

Greta and DU, the problem with guys who don't (sorry to generalize red!) get into giving oral but who only want to receive, is that they're usually selfish pricks you wouldn't want to get involved with anyway.




ExiledTyrant -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 7:00:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

And some people even like having conversations without attempting to cower to each individual persons form of political correctness. Everyone knows, no one ever means every single person. Hell, even someone who says abusing animals is wrong has most likely wanted to kick a dog in their life. The point being, let sleeping dogs lie.


Bless your heart...




GotSteel -> RE: Yep, It's Too Much to Ask a Woman to be Your Fetish/Kink Delivery System (11/19/2014 7:08:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
Thanks for the stats, I hadn't been aware of the ratios and you probably know how I like numbers [:D]

Um, the relatively few times I go over on P&R threads has made this abundantly clear. :p

[sm=rofl.gif]


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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
I am curious though, how does this one fit into the conversation? What was the thought process that made this relevant?

Here I will admit that I was getting a dig in on you males, esp. the ones who go around touting that men and women are all the same and our only basic differences are anatomical. We also think and feel differently, our thinking and emotive processes aren't the same or identical.


So to a certain extent that's true, however much of the differences come from social indoctrination. Relevant to this discussion is our cultures female sexually repression. As said repression has diminished in every post sexual revolution generation those differences have also diminished.




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