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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Marini

I find this article interesting, "Legal yet poor".
I think it gets to a point, that one RARELY hears.

Creating amnesty WITHOUT creating more jobs, is a recipe for failure.
Daily Beast-- Legal yet poor


Does it really take a rocket scientist to understand this concept?
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Apparently it does.

The undocumented find a way to make a living today without most of the protections of our system while living inside our nation. Predatory employers pay them below minimum wage and otherwise mistreat them because they have no recourse. Now they will have legal status and they will be able to report this sort of thing. So right there for many their standard of living will rise and that will stimulate the rest of the economy.

As they achieve legal status they will enter the legal housing market and will insure their vehicles which are obvious benefits to society as a whole.

As a matter of fact numerous studies have shown that the President's action will result in a lot of economic growth for the US and will directly improve the lot of the formerly illegals.

while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. In fact if I had to guess I would say most of the illegals will find better jobs and the companies will find new illegals to exploit. Which means more competition for the jobs that are already here and more people collecting unemployment in the end.

But we all already knew you were a simpleton already...

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AP Fact Check Finds Obama Grubered Immigration Speech

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2014/11/22/ap-finds-obama-grubered-immigration-speech#sthash.QEy1a4D2.dpuf

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

No, your source finds that.

Here's the ACTUAL AP fact check.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Hispanics and Latins are of European (Spanish) descent, and their ancestors killed countless "natives".

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Marini

I find this article interesting, "Legal yet poor".
I think it gets to a point, that one RARELY hears.

Creating amnesty WITHOUT creating more jobs, is a recipe for failure.
Daily Beast-- Legal yet poor


Does it really take a rocket scientist to understand this concept?
[sm=idea.gif]

Apparently it does.

The undocumented find a way to make a living today without most of the protections of our system while living inside our nation. Predatory employers pay them below minimum wage and otherwise mistreat them because they have no recourse. Now they will have legal status and they will be able to report this sort of thing. So right there for many their standard of living will rise and that will stimulate the rest of the economy.

As they achieve legal status they will enter the legal housing market and will insure their vehicles which are obvious benefits to society as a whole.

As a matter of fact numerous studies have shown that the President's action will result in a lot of economic growth for the US and will directly improve the lot of the formerly illegals.

while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. In fact if I had to guess I would say most of the illegals will find better jobs and the companies will find new illegals to exploit. Which means more competition for the jobs that are already here and more people collecting unemployment in the end.

But we all already knew you were a simpleton already...

We all meaning you and the voices in your head? But then again I knew if you couldn't come up with an intelligent reply, you would result to name calling. And I was right.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

No, your source finds that.

Here's the ACTUAL AP fact check.

They both have the exact same information

WTF is going on with you

Youve seriously lost your mind

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
No, your source finds that.
Here's the ACTUAL AP fact check.

They both have the exact same information
WTF is going on with you
Youve seriously lost your mind

No, they don't. One is the fact check; the other is the Gruber rant claiming that's the purpose of the fact check.
But nope -- the original makes no such association. It's a lie.
Thanks for the concern though. I'm flattered.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

The AP Fact Check (which was linked to in the newsbusters article) put out the information showing the inconsistencies with the truth ("gruberisms" according to Newsbusters). All the inconsistencies presented in the AP fact check were included in the newsbusters article, too. While the AP didn't call them gruberisms or state that Obama grubered the speech, they did show that he wasn't telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth, aka "grubering."

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Hispanics and Latins are of European (Spanish) descent, and their ancestors killed countless "natives".

You actually believe that?

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Hispanics and Latins are of European (Spanish) descent, and their ancestors killed countless "natives".

You actually believe that?

Dopey doesnt have a clue Ken, he needs to look at where his own ancestors come from. Love his point about latins (sic) has he told the Mafia ?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Marini

I find this article interesting, "Legal yet poor".
I think it gets to a point, that one RARELY hears.

Creating amnesty WITHOUT creating more jobs, is a recipe for failure.
Daily Beast-- Legal yet poor


Does it really take a rocket scientist to understand this concept?
[sm=idea.gif]

Apparently it does.

The undocumented find a way to make a living today without most of the protections of our system while living inside our nation. Predatory employers pay them below minimum wage and otherwise mistreat them because they have no recourse. Now they will have legal status and they will be able to report this sort of thing. So right there for many their standard of living will rise and that will stimulate the rest of the economy.

As they achieve legal status they will enter the legal housing market and will insure their vehicles which are obvious benefits to society as a whole.

As a matter of fact numerous studies have shown that the President's action will result in a lot of economic growth for the US and will directly improve the lot of the formerly illegals.

while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. In fact if I had to guess I would say most of the illegals will find better jobs and the companies will find new illegals to exploit. Which means more competition for the jobs that are already here and more people collecting unemployment in the end.

But we all already knew you were a simpleton already...

We all meaning you and the voices in your head? But then again I knew if you couldn't come up with an intelligent reply, you would result to name calling. And I was right.

No. It means I couldn't be bothered googling the studies for you dumbass. Why don't you use google for yourself once in a while?

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Marini

I find this article interesting, "Legal yet poor".
I think it gets to a point, that one RARELY hears.

Creating amnesty WITHOUT creating more jobs, is a recipe for failure.
Daily Beast-- Legal yet poor


Does it really take a rocket scientist to understand this concept?
[sm=idea.gif]

Apparently it does.

The undocumented find a way to make a living today without most of the protections of our system while living inside our nation. Predatory employers pay them below minimum wage and otherwise mistreat them because they have no recourse. Now they will have legal status and they will be able to report this sort of thing. So right there for many their standard of living will rise and that will stimulate the rest of the economy.

As they achieve legal status they will enter the legal housing market and will insure their vehicles which are obvious benefits to society as a whole.

As a matter of fact numerous studies have shown that the President's action will result in a lot of economic growth for the US and will directly improve the lot of the formerly illegals.

while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. In fact if I had to guess I would say most of the illegals will find better jobs and the companies will find new illegals to exploit. Which means more competition for the jobs that are already here and more people collecting unemployment in the end.

But we all already knew you were a simpleton already...

We all meaning you and the voices in your head? But then again I knew if you couldn't come up with an intelligent reply, you would result to name calling. And I was right.

No. It means I couldn't be bothered googling the studies for you dumbass. Why don't you use google for yourself once in a while?

You made the claim and once again instead of backing it up, you resort to name calling. Why am I not surprised.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Actually you made the claim if you check. I simply pointed out it was wrong you fucking moron. It is up to you to prove your claim by your own statement. I'll even bold it for you.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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Actually you made the claim if you check. I simply pointed out it was wrong you fucking moron. It is up to you to prove your claim by your own statement. I'll even bold it for you.

I said while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. Thats a question, not a statement of fact. And while cloudboy hasn't even tried to answer the question you keep jumping in with your childish little insults. So either answer the question or shut the fuck up and stay out of it.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Actually you made the claim if you check. I simply pointed out it was wrong you fucking moron. It is up to you to prove your claim by your own statement. I'll even bold it for you.

I said while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. Thats a question, not a statement of fact. And while cloudboy hasn't even tried to answer the question you keep jumping in with your childish little insults. So either answer the question or shut the fuck up and stay out of it.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Actually you made the claim if you check. I simply pointed out it was wrong you fucking moron. It is up to you to prove your claim by your own statement. I'll even bold it for you.

I said while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. Thats a question, not a statement of fact. And while cloudboy hasn't even tried to answer the question you keep jumping in with your childish little insults. So either answer the question or shut the fuck up and stay out of it.

An increase in wages should provide for more disposable income, and when we dispose of income, it goes into the economy. That is one of many ways it helps, since we are like 60% based on consumption, we need to consume, we need to have money to do that.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Actually you made the claim if you check. I simply pointed out it was wrong you fucking moron. It is up to you to prove your claim by your own statement. I'll even bold it for you.

I said while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. Thats a question, not a statement of fact. And while cloudboy hasn't even tried to answer the question you keep jumping in with your childish little insults. So either answer the question or shut the fuck up and stay out of it.

An increase in wages should provide for more disposable income, and when we dispose of income, it goes into the economy. That is one of many ways it helps, since we are like 60% based on consumption, we need to consume, we need to have money to do that.

That makes sense. I hadn't looked at it that way. Thanks for the explanation.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Actually you made the claim if you check. I simply pointed out it was wrong you fucking moron. It is up to you to prove your claim by your own statement. I'll even bold it for you.

I said while I agree that it will improve their lives I fail to see how making the employers pay fair wages is going to increase jobs or the economy. Thats a question, not a statement of fact. And while cloudboy hasn't even tried to answer the question you keep jumping in with your childish little insults. So either answer the question or shut the fuck up and stay out of it.

An increase in wages should provide for more disposable income, and when we dispose of income, it goes into the economy. That is one of many ways it helps, since we are like 60% based on consumption, we need to consume, we need to have money to do that.

That makes sense. I hadn't looked at it that way. Thanks for the explanation.

And, when you have more money chasing the same amount of goods, what will happen then?