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The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson

Officer Wilson WILL be charged with a crime

2% (1)

Officer Wilson will NOT be charged with a crime

38% (14)

I could not care less

11% (4)

Who is officer Wilson

16% (6)

Regardless of the decision Wilson is guilty

19% (7)

Regardless of the decision Wilson is innocent

11% (4)

Total Votes : 36

(last vote on : 12/8/2014 3:18:50 AM)
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Ladytisha -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:36:58 PM)
So do you think that every case that was an Officer involved shooting and delt with minorities that they looked or asked to be killed?

kdsub -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:42:17 PM)
Sorry i am not sure I understand your question. I know many police officers... they are just like you and I... I would never want to kill someone... you would never want to kill someone... they would never want to kill someone. They are just doing their jobs and hope to hell they never have to use their weapons... because if they do then their lives are at risk and so is their job. Butch

CreativeDominant -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:42:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub ...It is a terrible tragedy that should not happen again... <snip> How many times have we all heard this over the last few years; yet it keeps happening all over the US with regular monotony??? I don't care of Bama keeps trotting out the same old lame excuse that gun crime is coming down. It is still happening at a sickening rate compared to other OECD countries. It is an utter disgrace for a first-world nation. There needs to be a fundamental change in the US attitude towards guns and their use/ownership. And I'll ask the same age-old question: how many more does it take before change happens?? [8\|] You do understand that it was a policeman...carrying a gun as part of his job...that shot a suspect, right? NOT an ordinary citizen walking up to another ordinary citizen and gunning him down. So where does gun ownership or any of the other incidents you're speaking of come into this?

Ladytisha -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:44:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub It does keep happening and the vast majority are justified killings. That does not make the police wrong at least in all but a few instances... how about the criminals that they are pursuing or are attacking them. The problem is NOT with the police. That said... I think the training that police officers that often mandates shooting for center body mass is wrong. I also think the rules of engagement are too vague when it comes to deadly force. Take this instance... if he felt he needed to shoot in self defense than a leg shot would have worked just as well... he was unarmed and the cop knew it. The mentally ill man that came at two officers with a knife could have been subdued with shots to the legs... The boy that shot a a pursuing police officer was hit and on the ground when the officer continued to shoot. All these instances were wrong and could have been done differently without loss of life. I am all for change here. But the reasons these police officers were put in the situations where they had to apply deadly force were not their fault...and they should not be blamed. Butch

Ladytisha -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:49:15 PM)
How could you know that an officer isn't just looking to kill someone? You stated that vast majority of shooting are justified, How can you know this?

kdsub -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:51:26 PM)
Still do not get your point... so let me guess. I say most ALL police killings of ALL races are to stop a crime or a fleeing suspect or self defense. Minorities are not a criteria... race makes no difference. We are talking a black boy here but let me assure you police kill many white...red... and yellow criminals when they have to. The problems are not just with the police but with the criminals that force them to make life or death decisions. Butch

kdsub -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:54:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ladytisha How could you know that an officer isn't just looking to kill someone? You stated that vast majority of shooting are justified, How can you know this? How do I know you don't want to kill me?

Ladytisha -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:55:11 PM)
Do you not understand what you typed? That's my point unless you live in every state you can't possibly say vast majority of shooting are justified.

Ladytisha -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:56:21 PM)
You are killing yourself with your continued racist post

kdsub -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 2:58:19 PM)
But I do... the only way your point would be valid is in a lawless society where killing is accepted. Just as you and I as well as the vast majority of mankind are not killers so is the case with police officers... this fact defends my case and and makes yours ridiculous. Butch

Ladytisha -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 3:04:46 PM)
Your point is that nothing exist, GTFOH. I see your having trouble reading, if you are going to state something provide links to back the statement up. So your point is bullshit.

kdsub -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 3:09:35 PM)
No... you are the one making accusations and need to provide links... mine are backed up by law and documentation...every shooting is recorded for public view. You need to show with documentation that any amount other than the vast majority of police involved killings were not justified. Butch

BamaD -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 3:45:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub ...It is a terrible tragedy that should not happen again... <snip> How many times have we all heard this over the last few years; yet it keeps happening all over the US with regular monotony??? I don't care of Bama keeps trotting out the same old lame excuse that gun crime is coming down. It is still happening at a sickening rate compared to other OECD countries. It is an utter disgrace for a first-world nation. There needs to be a fundamental change in the US attitude towards guns and their use/ownership. And I'll ask the same age-old question: how many more does it take before change happens?? [8\|] Don't lecture us on our weapons laws till you start obeying yours.

cloudboy -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 3:54:19 PM)
I don't think you realize how badly you are coming off.

BamaD -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 3:56:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ladytisha How could you know that an officer isn't just looking to kill someone? You stated that vast majority of shooting are justified, How can you know this? How do you know he is, or are you playing guilty till proven innocent.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 4:03:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub ...It is a terrible tragedy that should not happen again... <snip> How many times have we all heard this over the last few years; yet it keeps happening all over the US with regular monotony??? I don't care of Bama keeps trotting out the same old lame excuse that gun crime is coming down. It is still happening at a sickening rate compared to other OECD countries. It is an utter disgrace for a first-world nation. There needs to be a fundamental change in the US attitude towards guns and their use/ownership. And I'll ask the same age-old question: how many more does it take before change happens?? [8\|] Don't lecture us on our weapons laws till you start obeying yours. And how any times have we had this ridiculous argument Bama?? We generally do obey our laws - that's why we, and all the other OECD countries, don't have as many gun deaths and shootings per capita than you do in the US. And kdsub may be right in what he says about cop shootings being justified, on the whole, because they are doing their job. We have police and some are armed but the vast majority are not. They still face armed criminals without guns and we still don't get as many deaths in the same situations as you do in the US. It's the whole 'guns first' mentality that puts both citizens and officers at risk.

BamaD -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 4:06:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub ...It is a terrible tragedy that should not happen again... <snip> How many times have we all heard this over the last few years; yet it keeps happening all over the US with regular monotony??? I don't care of Bama keeps trotting out the same old lame excuse that gun crime is coming down. It is still happening at a sickening rate compared to other OECD countries. It is an utter disgrace for a first-world nation. There needs to be a fundamental change in the US attitude towards guns and their use/ownership. And I'll ask the same age-old question: how many more does it take before change happens?? [8\|] Don't lecture us on our weapons laws till you start obeying yours. And how any times have we had this ridiculous argument Bama?? We generally do obey our laws - that's why we, and all the other OECD countries, don't have as many gun deaths and shootings per capita than you do in the US. And kdsub may be right in what he says about cop shootings being justified, on the whole, because they are doing their job. We have police and some are armed but the vast majority are not. They still face armed criminals without guns and we still don't get as many deaths in the same situations as you do in the US. It's the whole 'guns first' mentality that puts both citizens and officers at risk. You have admitted that you routinely carry a weapon which is illegal in your country. I wasn't talking about Brits I was talking about you.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 4:12:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD You have admitted that you routinely carry a weapon which is illegal in your country. I wasn't talking about Brits I was talking about you. Get it right moron!!! [8\|] I carried it ONCE - not routinely. And I explained why I did that. Reading isn't always your strong point and lately you've been almost as bad a Sanity. You have your opinion, I'll have mine. I think the US have got it wrong on guns. All the other OECD countries are proving that fact to be true. Go figure.

BamaD -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 4:48:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD You have admitted that you routinely carry a weapon which is illegal in your country. I wasn't talking about Brits I was talking about you. Get it right moron!!! [8\|] I carried it ONCE - not routinely. And I explained why I did that. Reading isn't always your strong point and lately you've been almost as bad a Sanity. You have your opinion, I'll have mine. I think the US have got it wrong on guns. All the other OECD countries are proving that fact to be true. Go figure. I think that once is an admission that you know your laws are too restrictive. It still means that you ignore them when it is what you think you need to do. Until you are ready to obey your laws all the time don't lecture us. Did you destroy it or do you have it stored away somewhere in case you decide once again that you outrank the law?

kdsub -> RE: The Grand Jury has decided in Ferguson (12/2/2014 5:15:04 PM)
I am coming off truthful and however others take me so be it... If you want to call me racist you have better list what I said that was racists... falsely calling someone just makes you one as Ladytisha has demonstrated already. Butch

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