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how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/1/2014 10:50:06 PM   
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m struggling with wanting a salad from his place of work for dinner, however there is lima bean soup on the stove so I should not ask for food . I just am not finding it very tasty:/plus, I really need to learn to break this dependence / addiction on take out, specially if there's food at home

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/1/2014 11:10:36 PM   
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I see no harm in wanting a salad. Sometimes I'll boil a couple of eggs to have with it if it's late. I would google healthy recipes online. Replace white bread, sugar, pasta, and rice with brown. Try to get a lot of healthy fats in your diet like from beans (yes, lima beans) but also lentils, red beans. Maybe you might find joy in cooking. I do like others enjoying my food, it's nice to get complimented on something and it is healthier than takeout by far. I think we all have our weaknesses though, those never really go away but limiting yourself to "once a week I'll cheat" is important too. According to Dr Oz (not sure if true or not), sugar is more addictive than cocaine, so the more you eat, the more you crave. It's about changing up habits and methods. I love avocado, yogurt, peanuts. So I keep those around as my healthy snack alternatives. Fruits are great either with cheese or peanut butter and if you avoid heavy carbs at night you should be fine. The takeout stuff is addictive though, as is sugar, so it's not just you. Breaking habits are easier said than done but you can do it. If you take up cooking as a hobby it would help so much because then you can make foods that are tasty and healthy.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/1/2014 11:16:32 PM   
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this salad has 3 kinds of beans, kidney green and garbonzo, egg, carrot, cheese , and salami, and I put ranch on it, but I could go easy on the ranch.

Sadly I hate cooking, even simple stuff. But I might like crockpot cooking! And I love hunting for recipes. Just the making part, Is a different story.

Yes, having healthy snacks on hand does help sucess!
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I see no harm in wanting a salad. Sometimes I'll boil a couple of eggs to have with it if it's late. I would google healthy recipes online. Replace white bread, sugar, pasta, and rice with brown. Try to get a lot of healthy fats in your diet like from beans (yes, lima beans) but also lentils, red beans. Maybe you might find joy in cooking. I do like others enjoying my food, it's nice to get complimented on something and it is healthier than takeout by far. I think we all have our weaknesses though, those never really go away but limiting yourself to "once a week I'll cheat" is important too. According to Dr Oz (not sure if true or not), sugar is more addictive than cocaine, so the more you eat, the more you crave. It's about changing up habits and methods. I love avocado, yogurt, peanuts. So I keep those around as my healthy snack alternatives. Fruits are great either with cheese or peanut butter and if you avoid heavy carbs at night you should be fine. The takeout stuff is addictive though, as is sugar, so it's not just you. Breaking habits are easier said than done but you can do it. If you take up cooking as a hobby it would help so much because then you can make foods that are tasty and healthy.



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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/1/2014 11:42:36 PM   
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Sadly I hate cooking, even simple stuff. But I might like crockpot cooking! And I love hunting for recipes. Just the making part, Is a different story.



Learn to like it. Making bland, shit food is no fun at all. Making yummy tasty food is a blast. What is your motivation? If you don't like to cook and you have no excitement for it, then fast food is the easy solution. Fresh food tastes better, and it is better for you because you control what goes into it.

Watch cooking shows, go to YouTube and search for cooking for beginners and gain some confidence. It isn't rocket science, it is just cooking.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/1/2014 11:46:10 PM   
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Motivation how? Like what makes me wanna eat?

If so, Savory, maybe a wee bit sweet. Sometimes creamy
Appealing to the eye.
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Sadly I hate cooking, even simple stuff. But I might like crockpot cooking! And I love hunting for recipes. Just the making part, Is a different story.



Learn to like it. Making bland, shit food is no fun at all. Making yummy tasty food is a blast. What is your motivation? If you don't like to cook and you have no excitement for it, then fast food is the easy solution. Fresh food tastes better, and it is better for you because you control what goes into it.

Watch cooking shows, go to YouTube and search for cooking for beginners and gain some confidence. It isn't rocket science, it is just cooking.



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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/1/2014 11:58:34 PM   
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Motivation how? Like what makes me wanna eat?

If so, Savory, maybe a wee bit sweet. Sometimes creamy
Appealing to the eye.



No, like why you want to break your fast food addiction.

Forget the appealing to the eye and figure out why you want to change your eating habits. No better motivation that I can think of than to use the reason you want to change for all the excitement and motivation you need.

Learn to like cooking first. Worry about how it looks when you like to cook.

Personally, I love to cook, I don't care about pretty, my food is delicious, and it isn't art. If you are a chef or entertaining friends, then give a small care to how it looks, if it is for you and your partner or close family for every day stuff... just get the food on the plate and enjoy it.


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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 1:01:14 AM   
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this salad has 3 kinds of beans, kidney green and garbonzo, egg, carrot, cheese , and salami, and I put ranch on it, but I could go easy on the ranch.

That does not sound appetizing to me. I would eat MacDonald cheeseburger instead of that!!

There are only 2 types of salads I would eat that could replace fast food:
1) Spinach leaves, feta, dried cranberries with balsamic vinegar
2) Bocconcini balls, fresh cherry tomatoes, arugula leaves with balsamic vinegar again

Great salads! You'd not miss fast food! I salt and pepper my salads alot to taste too. And damn easy to make. No chopping needing, just dump everything in a bowl, drizzle vinegar and eat.

I think it's about finding healthy food that you really really love to eat. I don't think healthy food has to be tasteless. Just finding the right recipes.


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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 2:21:17 AM   
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Put your lips in the wedge of a door (preferably metal) and slam this culprit repeatedly until the addiction subsides. My humor for the day. Seriously, I want a cheeseburger and fries smothered in hot sauce and ketchup. It is no easy task to manage this addiction.

Today, I had salmon, garlic, onion, scallion, ginger, tumeric with kale dressed in a balsamic vinaigrette. As appetizing as this may sound, quite frankly, it was terrible. However, these are the ingredients to control certain health issues that have arisen from my love of fast foods and take out foods. I am skinny, so I saw no real health issues on the horizon. That was a big mistake. Rather than thinking about these warnings, however, think about the things you need to consume to avoid these dire consequences.

Your fast food addiction can not be controlled. Its an easy concept to grasp about being in control, but an epic fail in practice. As an alternative, manage your food choices better and the addiction can be managed better. Trying to control cravings for fast food is futile with the level of creative marketing we are inundated with on a daily basis. Although, turning off all electronic devices may help, it is not practical. Don't try the door thing, I was just playing. Oh, and keep your sense of humor while abstaining; that helps.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 2:28:05 AM   
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m struggling with wanting a salad from his place of work for dinner, however there is lima bean soup on the stove so I should not ask for food . I just am not finding it very tasty:/plus, I really need to learn to break this dependence / addiction on take out, specially if there's food at home


you are probably addicted to the taste of processed sauces and artificial aromas, you should give up with those and educate your thangue to feel other tastes, so give up ketchup, mayonnaise, soysauce and that kind of stuff you'll soon start to appreciate real food. If you want I can give you some recipes (italian food) that you can make in large amount during the weekend freeze it and then just boil or heat in the owen when needed, so you can split the effort in more confortable moments.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 3:06:28 AM   
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Along with what everyone else said, including having a reason and developing a passion for cooking, there are several things I have done to take control of my eating:

1. I only eat out with friends. Then, I enjoy it.

2. I don't bring processed food into my home. Nearly everything is fresh, or close to. I do use some canned foods, but without added sugars, etc.

3. I make a meal plan. Knowing what I will have every night, and knowing it's delicious makes it so much easier to eat the stuff that is good for me. This book helps:

Stop Eating Out

A lot. (I know the author, to be upfront.)

It sets out plans for eating fast (super-fast recipes), fresh (for foods in season, minimal cooking), and making food ahead (make a huge pot of chili, freeze the leftovers, mark calendar for when they get eaten, so they don't get lost in the freezer).

When I follow these steps, I have more energy, my skin looks great, and I stay in my ideal size easily.

Good luck!

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 3:49:48 AM   
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Along with what everyone else said, including having a reason and developing a passion for cooking, there are several things I have done to take control of my eating:

1. I only eat out with friends. Then, I enjoy it.

2. I don't bring processed food into my home. Nearly everything is fresh, or close to. I do use some canned foods, but without added sugars, etc.

3. I make a meal plan. Knowing what I will have every night, and knowing it's delicious makes it so much easier to eat the stuff that is good for me. This book helps:

Stop Eating Out

A lot. (I know the author, to be upfront.)

It sets out plans for eating fast (super-fast recipes), fresh (for foods in season, minimal cooking), and making food ahead (make a huge pot of chili, freeze the leftovers, mark calendar for when they get eaten, so they don't get lost in the freezer).

When I follow these steps, I have more energy, my skin looks great, and I stay in my ideal size easily.

Good luck!


God, so much self-discipline. I do this too, for about a week, a few months if I'm lucky, longer if someone is watching over my shoulder but I can never keep it up consistently, or have found anyone that wanted to look over my shoulder constantly. I'm fantastic at self-sabotage and I'm great at eating emotionally and I have not found a cure for that so far.

To the OP - I use an app/website called MyfitnessPal (or try to). Things work perfectly when I use it and log in every day (works even better if someone checks in on me). It's been my most successful way so far to beat the bulge, there's lots of support on there, a myriad of information on how to cope with bad eating habits and its very good at keeping me motivated (or was for a long time). You add everything you eat and drink and your exercise (it has a huge database of food that the users input the info for) and then it tells you what you would weigh in a few weeks if you keep it up. you can also add people to motivate you and vice versa. It's kinda like a Facebook for fitness (but I hate Facebook). You can do your journal on there too, as mentioned in your other thread!

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 4:31:23 AM   
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1. I only eat out with friends. Then, I enjoy it.

2. I don't bring processed food into my home. Nearly everything is fresh, or close to. I do use some canned foods, but without added sugars, etc.

3. I make a meal plan. Knowing what I will have every night, and knowing it's delicious makes it so much easier to eat the stuff that is good for me.


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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 4:47:18 AM   
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God, so much self-discipline.


LOL! Nooooo. I have like zero self-discipline. I structure my life to make it easy for me to take the lazy route.

For example, I don't bring processed/unwanted food into my house, so when I'm being lazy, I don't have it around to ruin my plans... LOL! If I have food in the freezer I can eat by heating up in 10-15 minutes, I will do that and be lazy, rather than going out to grab fast food.

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 5:09:08 AM   
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Make your own hamburger/fries. They taste much better!

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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 8:17:28 AM   
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Oh, cuz it's expensive to eat out so much, it's not healthy, and it does the waist line no favors(i went from 285 back to 308)
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No, like why you want to break your fast food addiction.

Forget the appealing to the eye and figure out why you want to change your eating habits. No better motivation that I can think of than to use the reason you want to change for all the excitement and motivation you need.

Learn to like cooking first. Worry about how it looks when you like to cook.

Personally, I love to cook, I don't care about pretty, my food is delicious, and it isn't art. If you are a chef or entertaining friends, then give a small care to how it looks, if it is for you and your partner or close family for every day stuff... just get the food on the plate and enjoy it.




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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 8:20:17 AM   
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Oh, I am gagga over it! If I am super hungry and I haven't had it in a long time I will growl and make all kinds of grunts and groans and un mannerly noises lol.

I agree. But the soup mom made was bland city lol.
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this salad has 3 kinds of beans, kidney green and garbonzo, egg, carrot, cheese , and salami, and I put ranch on it, but I could go easy on the ranch.

That does not sound appetizing to me. I would eat MacDonald cheeseburger instead of that!!

There are only 2 types of salads I would eat that could replace fast food:
1) Spinach leaves, feta, dried cranberries with balsamic vinegar
2) Bocconcini balls, fresh cherry tomatoes, arugula leaves with balsamic vinegar again

Great salads! You'd not miss fast food! I salt and pepper my salads alot to taste too. And damn easy to make. No chopping needing, just dump everything in a bowl, drizzle vinegar and eat.

I think it's about finding healthy food that you really really love to eat. I don't think healthy food has to be tasteless. Just finding the right recipes.




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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 8:31:38 AM   
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I'm diabetic, so I don't think that italian would be good, tho I love chicken parminian, alfredo noodles and a heaping of marinara! Ty, though.
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Yes. Probably so. I mean I find healthy // non fast food tastyim not tota
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m struggling with wanting a salad from his place of work for dinner, however there is lima bean soup on the stove so I should not ask for food . I just am not finding it very tasty:/plus, I really need to learn to break this dependence / addiction on take out, specially if there's food at home


you are probably addicted to the taste of processed sauces and artificial aromas, you should give up with those and educate your thangue to feel other tastes, so give up ketchup, mayonnaise, soysauce and that kind of stuff you'll soon start to appreciate real food. If you want I can give you some recipes (italian food) that you can make in large amount during the weekend freeze it and then just boil or heat in the owen when needed, so you can split the effort in more confortable moments.



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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 8:35:14 AM   
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I robbed this from another thread cuz it's fuckin brilliant.

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Except that that equation is flawed, and about 20 years outdates scientifically.

Weightloss isn't as simple as calories in versus out. For starters not all calories create the same amount of energy in the body. Calories from carbohydrates and sugar are pretty much 1 for 1 as far as the muscle energy they give you. They store well in both liver and fat cells, causing you to readily put on weight when having an excess of these.
Calories from protein and fat on the other hand (especially fat) do not easily become available to our body as energy. The chemical reactions we do to transfer them into available energy causes about a 30% loss in the process, making it so that 100 calories from bread are equivalent to only about 70 calories from butter.

Furthermore carbohydrates are very low in nutrient value for the amount of calories. To eat the equivalent amount of nutrient from most carb forms (breads, pasta, etc) as you would from steak and vegetables you need to eat about 6 times as much bread, and you will still end up deficient in certain minerals and vitamins.
Mineral and vitamin deficiencies cause you to become more hungry and less satiation, in an attempt to prompt you to eat more in order to make up the deficiency, causing you to acquire vastly more calories when eating carbs than you would eating protein and vegetables.

Then there is the fact that food which creates a blood sugar spike (like carbohydrates) causes our body to be more receptive to fat storage. When you have an excessive intake of calories combined with a blood sugar spike your body will readily store the excess as fat. When you have an excess of calories and no blood sugar spike, your body will store the excess in your liver, and when your liver is full store a limited amount of the excess as fat and dump the rest via your bowls. (I.E. eating excessive protein and fat will give you the runs... not make you fat...)

Lastly there is the issue of cutting down calorie intake below usage levels on a consistent basis. Doing this will cause your body to perceive starvation, and make it hunker down and expend less calories in an effort to conserve energy. Your metabolism will go down, and fat storage -when possible- will go up. Not only that, but your body will remain in this mode for weeks after you come out of 'starvation mode' and so, as soon as you resume eating 'normal' amount of calories, you will store excessive amounts of them for weeks after your diet. Much healthier than consistently eating less calories than you expend is to eat less calories than you expend on some days, and more calories than you expend other days.

The myth of 'calories in versus calories out' has done more damage to the Westen word than can be measured. Calories in versus out means NOTHING without talking about what type of calories you're putting in your body, the effects they have on your blood sugar, their objective value in terms of calorie/nutritional value, and the schedule with which you are consuming them.
It's really problematic when somebody who claims to care so much about people's overall fitness level would spread such dangerous misinformation as "the SAD (standard American diet) will make you healthy, if you only eat less of it" as it will not. At the most it will make you skinny while having dangerous levels of malnutrition that will cause an increase in all sorts of health issues and diseases at the same time.

People aren't designed to have 70% of their caloric intake come from low nutritional density foods such as carbs and refined sugars... ESPECIALLY not when they eat few enough calories of that low nutritionally dense food to have a weight/fat level in an 'acceptable BMI' range.


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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 8:45:05 AM   
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Yes. Meal plans, or rather lack of them, and snacks when out, have been my downfall!
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Along with what everyone else said, including having a reason and developing a passion for cooking, there are several things I have done to take control of my eating:

1. I only eat out with friends. Then, I enjoy it.

2. I don't bring processed food into my home. Nearly everything is fresh, or close to. I do use some canned foods, but without added sugars, etc.

3. I make a meal plan. Knowing what I will have every night, and knowing it's delicious makes it so much easier to eat the stuff that is good for me. This book helps:

Stop Eating Out

A lot. (I know the author, to be upfront.)

It sets out plans for eating fast (super-fast recipes), fresh (for foods in season, minimal cooking), and making food ahead (make a huge pot of chili, freeze the leftovers, mark calendar for when they get eaten, so they don't get lost in the freezer).

When I follow these steps, I have more energy, my skin looks great, and I stay in my ideal size easily.

Good luck!



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RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? - 12/2/2014 9:08:14 AM   
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Yes. Meal plans, or rather lack of them, and snacks when out, have been my downfall!

I love fast food generally so I understand where you're coming from.

We still don't have meal plans but when we go shopping we do try to work out what we'll eat for the week.
And when we go out, we do the shopping first with the budget we have worked out.
The point is, there's no money left to buy fast food or take-outs even if we wanted them.

That is a good way to not buying them - don't have the money available or handy when you're out!!
If we really really fancy a burger or pizza or whatever, we buy the ingredients and make it at home.
It's much much tastier, more healthy, no excessive amounts of sugar or salt and no MSG!!!!


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