DesideriScuri
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Didn't an insurance CEO write much of Obamacare?
Which insurance CEO was that, DS?
I was wrong. It was an insurance CEO. It was Liz Fowler, a Wellpoint VP. And, she left to lobby for Johnson & Johnson.
Like the Affordable Care Act, reading the text is not completing the full assignment, but understanding what that text means. Most understand what Mr. Cooper is stating, but not what it means. This link that you give, state's Miss Fowler wrote the document. Did she really? Thomas Edison has the most patents, yet, didn't invent all the stuff he holds a patent with; instead, others did all the 'back-breaking' research and he placed his name on the documents.
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"As a senior aide to Baucus, she directs the Finance Committee health care staff, enforces deadlines on drafting bill language and coordinates with the White House and other lawmakers. She also troubleshoots, identifying policy and political problems before they ripen.
With all of that, how does one find time to write a 2409 page bill that would survive under normal Congressional scrutiny, let along one were a sizable (but minor) section of the nation will nit pick any part of it over petty reasons? Imagine if George R. R. Martin had to stand up to that sort of scrutiny on any of his 'Game of Thrones' books? That guy would be drown in so much "YOU KILLED MY FAVORITE CHARACTER YOU F#*@ING BASTARD!!!!"
Its more likely there was a team of authors whom took much of their work from the Republican Party viewpoints on healthcare from the start of the new millennium (which is true). And Miss Fowler, in her public job, put a metaphorical 'stamp of approval' on it, just as Mr. Edison did with patents.
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Another source.
This is not direct proof of anything other than claiming Miss Fowler took a private sector job and a bit of work history.
The last link demonstrated the same thing as the others. Nothing more.
Baucus thanking Fowler
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Why is it that it only bothers you when it's a Republican?
Should we not hold those in elected office fully accountable and responsible with the power they wield? Oh forgot, that only applies to Democrats in your viewpoint....
Where did I say otherwise?
You imply it.
No. You assume I imply it. That's all about your analysis and nothing else, Joether.
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A letter to the EPA has what sort of force of law? Any?
Depends on WHOM its from. If it were from the Justice Department, the White House, or Congress. I imagine it would have very serious force behind it.
And, in the case of the OP, it's an AG from a State whining to a Federal Agency. Thus, zero force of law there.
Where do you think many US Supreme Courts issues originate from? Either directly or indirectly.
The OK AG chastised the EPA over their overestimation of air pollution caused by energy companies drilling for nat. gas in OK. That's going to be the basis of a SCOTUS case?!? Well, glory be! If it gets to the SCOTUS, it will likely have gone through the system and there would likely be some sort of merits to the case, no?
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The point here, which you and I understand clearly (and your trying to evade the reality), is of a corporation controlling someone elected by the people for its interest, not theirs! If its not 'ok' for Democrats to do it, then its certainly not 'ok' for Republican/Tea Party to do it as well!
It isn't okay for Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, or any other member of a political party to be bought and paid for. I've never stated otherwise.
So how should the voting public deal with this issue? Let it slide until the next election in two years? How much damage could one attorney general do in a two year span, whom is bought off by corporations, towards US Citizens in that area? Should they find out the hard way? Or have him removed from office? Back in the 18th and 19th centuries, anyone found following the orders of an entity that was not a US Citizen (aka a living, breathing person), was drummed out of office, if not executed.
What should voters do? Voters should do whatever is legally called for. If that's a position open for recall, then there you have it.
What if the letter is right, though?
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